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Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:29 pm
by Holt
hehehe
I knew you came with that
its all fun....
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:15 pm
by knibs7
Kyle
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:01 am
by orb
Does anybody know the actual sleeve length of the Chicago/Smithsonian jackets?
Could it be the same as HF CS Jacket? 26 Inch?
Regards
orb
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:19 pm
by Stefan Hills
How much does the new TN LC jacket cost?
Stefan
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:49 am
by Yojimbo Jones
Stefan Hills wrote:How much does the new TN LC jacket cost?
Stefan
$750(?)
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:41 am
by nicktheguy
I called Tony the other day to see about the turnaround time etc. When I asked him the price I am sure he said $950. I know that members here have paid $750 for that jacket and hope that Tony was thinking of another jacket. I would love some clarification on this. I emailed him regarding this difference between what members have said they paid and what he says the price is, but have not heard back from him.
I am hoping I misheard him
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:51 am
by RCSignals
Nick that sounds like he quoted for the Raider.
I know he has been
very busy lately. He may have misunderstood you?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:21 am
by nicktheguy
I hope so - he emailed me late last night to say he will call me today to go over the details. Hopefully I will have some clarification.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:37 pm
by orb
I just talked with Tony.
So the price for the LC Cowhide has increased.
He didn't know that the leather would be quite more expensive. He researched it and that was when Chris maybe some other and me have already placed the order for the LC jacket. He said that he made an commitment to those people and so the price won't be increased for people who have already paid the 750usd for it.
But I'm quite sure if you ask for a LC jacket with the Indy4 Cowhide or any other cheaper leather? like goat.. the price will be 750usd. It's just because of the premium Italian Cowhide...
Sorry folks.
Regards
orb
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:05 pm
by Holt
RCSignals wrote:so the question is: Is the LC jacket zipper really 'golden' or just appear to be under certain conditions?
tell me, what color do you see when you look at the zipper? (yes Im back on the zipper)
silver or gold brass?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:51 pm
by crismans
So is the LC in the Italian cowhide in fact $950?
And if that's too expensive for some folks (I'm not sure I could take the plunge again
), I'll restate my assertion that the cowhide Indy G used for his Raiders would make a heck of an LC jacket.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:36 am
by Dutch_jones
Diffferent jackets in the movie.
The jacket with the cotton lining seems to have a silver zipper:
The one used most through out the movie has a brass one:
SO I think the promo shots had a silver zip and cotton lining.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:46 am
by RCSignals
Indiana Holt wrote:RCSignals wrote:so the question is: Is the LC jacket zipper really 'golden' or just appear to be under certain conditions?
tell me, what color do you see when you look at the zipper? (yes Im back on the zipper)
silver or gold brass?
I really can't tell from that picture. It could be 'gold-ish' or it could be nickel.
I was told the CS jacket has a brass zipper because that is what Bernie wanted, not the silver. I think the jacket that as used to develop the CS from had a silver/nickel zipper. What hasn't been confirmed is if the jacket was in fact the LC from the Smithsonian.
It doesn't bother me either way if the LC has a brass or silver zipper, but I do lean to the nickel. Do you know which is in fact correct?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:48 am
by RCSignals
Did you miss where Holt said the LC did not have a cotton lining at all?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:34 am
by Dutch_jones
RCSignals wrote:
Did you miss where Holt said the LC did not have a cotton lining at all?
No I did not miss it, but I have seen Hi resolution pictures of a cotton lining and it differes heavily from the dragon .... forgot the name lining. But like i said its the jacket from the promo shoot with connery where harrison sits below a standing Connery.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:03 am
by Holt
yeah...... that jacket there Dutch is the smithsonian jacket. in other words. no cotton lining and golden zipp.
but remember, Im not saying that all jackets had this silk lining. it could be that maby some production or stunt jackets had cotton. I dont know, I wasnt there....but Im pretty sure that the smithsonian jacket had this silk lining.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:30 am
by Dutch_jones
I don't
can't see the lining in the smitsonian jacket but to my eyes the one in the picture I posted DOES not look like silk at all. in another picture it just looks like there is no lining at all, just raw leather on the inside.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:47 am
by jones the whip
Here are a couple of additions to your thread.
The specs of this jacket have been discussed previously, but you may find the collar measurements interesting.
From collarstand seam to flap edge - 2 3/4". From collarstand seam to flap point - 3 1/4".
The buckle strap is 3" from the bottom of the jacket (IMO it should be 4")
The pocket is 8" from piped edge to bottom and 6" wide. It is 3.2" from piped edge to pocket flap point.
Cheers,
JTW.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:45 pm
by RCSignals
That's a nice looking LC JTW. How old is it?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:02 pm
by Holt
Dutch_jones wrote:I don't
can't see the lining in the smitsonian jacket but to my eyes the one in the picture I posted DOES not look like silk at all. in another picture it just looks like there is no lining at all, just raw leather on the inside.
okay Dutch. one more final try to let you see the shiny lining in the smithsonian jacket.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:15 pm
by RCSignals
What colour is the lining of the LC jacket? Some photos appear dark brown, others more black.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:18 pm
by Holt
it really looks dark brown when I take a look at my LC archive jacket pictures, but appears to look black in some scenes.
its all b/c the different ligthing.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:23 pm
by orb
Hey Holt what lining Tony offers is closer to the lining used in the film? Raiders or CS?
Because I don't want a maybe SA satin lining where I sweat my ### off in the warmer days of the year.
Regards
orb
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:29 pm
by Holt
How could I know?..
I have not felt the TN raiders lining or seen it up close nor the CS....
sometimes I really feel that maby people take my opinions for answers...... dont do that.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:41 pm
by orb
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-2p.jpg
CS left, Raiders on the Right.
For me both linings are fine for a LC. But half, half won't be the way to go
Regards
orb
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:11 pm
by jones the whip
RCSignals wrote:That's a nice looking LC JTW. How old is it?
That jacket is 14 months old.
It has undergone a series of distressing, renovating, re-distressing etc...
not to mention colour changing with multiple applications of leather dressing, leather dye and furniture polish.
Cheers,
JTW.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:18 pm
by Holt
the jacket looks great but I know your not that fond of the lamb leather for a LC JTW.
if you ever decide to get another LC in the future, may i recommend the soft goat. IMO it has the thick lambskin drape that the LC jacket should have. pluss its a tad darker then the auth. br.
love that hide. Im getting one next week.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:48 pm
by RCSignals
Indiana Holt wrote:........ Im getting one next week.
So we finally get to see it next week?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:01 pm
by Holt
well, Im ordering one.. hopefully ill get in in the beginning of the week after that.
why? are you curious about seeing it?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:49 pm
by RCSignals
Indiana Holt wrote:well, Im ordering one.. hopefully ill get in in the beginning of the week after that.
why? are you curious about seeing it?
We all are
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:36 am
by Holt
well. I'll see if I will post pictures when I get it.
it all depends if Im in the right mood
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:39 am
by Dutch_jones
Indiana Holt wrote:well, Im ordering one.. hopefully ill get in in the beginning of the week after that.
why? are you curious about seeing it?
Where are you ordering one if I might ask?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:40 am
by Holt
it will be from the original maker.
who else offers the new soft goat?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:43 am
by Dutch_jones
Indiana Holt wrote:it will be from the original maker
GOOOD!!! I have Enourmous fate that he will make a dead on accurate LC now
call it a hunch
I would order one myself if I had the money but sadly not yet!
Be prepared to wait a little longer though, they seem to be really busy at the moment, I ordered a custom jacket a few weeks ago.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:45 am
by Holt
I dont wait.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:47 am
by jones the whip
Indiana Holt wrote:the jacket looks great but I know your not that fond of the lamb leather for a LC JTW.
if you ever decide to get another LC in the future, may i recommend the soft goat.
I know what you mean, Satipo and I were discussing this yesterday when we met to attend the Star Wars concert at the o2.
I wore my jacket and explained to Satipo that I was 90% happy with it.
Although we both agreed that the design, specs and fit are very satisfactory, the lightness in weight of this jacket does'nt befit LC SA. There is no problem with the thickness of the Lamb - only the weight.
Like yourself Holt, Satipo touched on the idea of goat, also of horse hide.
The ambition is to find something with a thin skin like that of lamb but with the heavier feel of a hide.
JTW.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:51 am
by Holt
well then like I said, the soft goat would be perfet.
it feels heavier but it is just as thin as lamb, maby a hair thicker. trust me it is awesome!
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:24 am
by PSBIndy
soft goat = washed goat?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:25 am
by Dutch_jones
PSBIndy wrote:soft goat = washed goat?
I believe softgoat is something else.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:17 pm
by Holt
RCSignals wrote:
It doesn't bother me either way if the LC has a brass or silver zipper, but I do lean to the nickel. Do you know which is in fact correct?
if the LC jacket had a nickel zipper then
how can it look brass thru out the whole movie when caugth under different sets of lightning. Outside, inside, archive pictures. promo pictures.. etc.etc. I mean, you clearly can see the original color of the zipp in raiders and temple. why? becasue they used a silver colored zipper. In LC they used a brass zipp.
yeah,yeah,yeah... I know. some people say its the lighting.. but his strap buckle doesnt show of as brass does it? they are under the same lighting.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:52 pm
by orb
I love when it goes into details...
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-2o.jpg
Picture of the chicago jacket you can see a bit of the zipper pull by the collar. Looks nickel to me.
and
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-23.jpg
a picture of a scene in the castle. Looks like nickel.
Sry for the bad quality. Maybe you can make a better screenshot of that scene.
IMO the zipper could be brass but the zipper pull was a nickel for sure.
Regards
orb
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:04 pm
by RCSignals
Indiana Holt wrote:well. I'll see if I will post pictures when I get it.
it all depends if Im in the right mood
OK Sally, We hope you are in the right mood
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:08 pm
by RCSignals
Dutch_jones wrote:
GOOOD!!! I have Enourmous fate that he will make a dead on accurate LC now
call it a hunch
I would order one myself if I had the money but sadly not yet!
.
Enormous fate ?
But of course it will be accurate, it will be a Holt LC
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:11 pm
by RCSignals
Is the end f the zipper pull there 'Bell shaped' ?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:28 pm
by Holt
no, no, no man, do NOT believe what you are seeing here. you can barely see that tiny,tiny little top of the zipper that sticks out from the collar.....this IS missleading.
I am 100% sure that this picture was taken with a flash. dont you think that the tiny top of the zipper reflects the flash from the camera making the zipper look silver?
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:31 pm
by Yojimbo Jones
Falsh use there highly unlikely. I think its a silver pull.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:35 pm
by Holt
and the castle jacket looks to have a brass zipper to me.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:38 pm
by Han Jones
Tony thinks it is silver as well but I wanted brass.
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:38 pm
by orb
Maybe. But just watch the complete Castle scene till this scene:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/7426-24.jpg
It's a nickel zip for sure. When Indy and his father are bound sitting in this fake chimney.
Even when the fire starts you can clearly see it's a nickel.
Regards
orb
Re: Last Crusade jacket thread
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:41 pm
by Holt
Yojimbo Jones wrote:Falsh use there highly unlikely. I think its a silver pull.
why is that highly unlikely? you can see the flash at the top of the glass window. stand in front of a window and you will have the same effect.
okay, I am not saying that the chicago jacket doesnt have a silver zipp. how can I say it has brass zipp when I dont see it? it could have a pink zipp for all I care.... But I am not discussing about that jacket. that chicago jacket is not so much of any interest to me since I dont know if its screen used or not.
I am talking about the smithsonian jacket and Fords hero jacket. both of those two have brass zipper. I can not understand how people keep on doubting this when it is right in front of their eyes. you only have to watch LC and its there.