Club Obi Wan

crismans wrote:I've got a Todd's custom on the way. Seeing all these jackets is just making the wait unbearable.

I'll bet it is.

crismans wrote:I've got a Todd's custom on the way. Seeing all these jackets is just making the wait unbearable.

You could always quit looking! hehe

Randy

now why would he want to stop looking these jackets are very nice and he needs to see what he will be getting , which in turn will make it all the more sweeter when he gets it! as long as he takes pics and posts them for all to see .

This has been one roller coaster of an Indy day. I got the bad news on the Wings jacket but got the custom Todd's today, a little over two weeks from the time I ordered it. It is a terrific jacket and you can really tell that Todd's spent some time working on the collar to get the temple look. My camera's batteries are totally dead so it will be tomorrow before I can get pics up.

What happened with the Wings jackets? And. . . please post more photos of this jacket! I'm so close to sold on the standard. ActuJ-ally, is anyone going to the so cal summit this year? Perhaps I can get a glimpse of one in person!

I think there's an unwritten rule that when the UPS driver has a package for you, they run late. BUT I got my Todd's LATE this afternoon!

I kept myself in check till I could give it a good look, pulled out my pocket knife and opened the box. As soon as I caught a glimpse of the jacket in the bag, I knew It'd be perfect for me.. if it fit!

It did! Better than a 40 otr Wested, too.

Has that nice and grainy texture. Looks like it's been partially broken in!

I'll get pics asap. [Most likely tomorrow afternoon.]

Randy, you ordered the medium + ?

No, the regular large. The medium + was too big measurement wise.. go figure.

Randy

i wear my TS almost on a daily basis (rain or shine) for almost a year, it looks far better now than when i perchased it, it is light enough to wear on spring and fall type days, and i think very SA (weight and cut) i think if todd made a goat standard it would do very well, i would buy one as soon as i knew, as durable as my jacket is it would be much stronger in goat

Will be good to see some pics Randy, congrats!

Sorry that it's taken this long to get pics! I've been pretty busy since getting the jacket, but not enough to warrant my lack of photos!







I WILL get some pics of me in the jacket, promise.

My impression thus far is all positive.. granted, I haven't been able to wear it yet. The jacket came to me with the character/wrinkles you see. So I'm really having to think twice about distressing. It's thin, but not flimsily so, and fits better than the Wested I had, as I said before.

Randy

That looks like one nice jacket! definitly post some pics with it on.

i now own a couple, my only issue with todds are the collars ALWAYS roll on mine(not sure how to prevent or stop it)...

That's a very nice looking jacket, interchange. I'd really like to check out a standard one of these days. They seem like a ton of jacket for the $.

crismans wrote:That's a very nice looking jacket, interchange. I'd really like to check out a standard one of these days. They seem like a ton of jacket for the $.

Its my favorite Indy jacket, dont let the "thinness" of the leather scare you away. I think the Todd's Standard nails the look the best of them all. I got lucky in that the xl feels like it was tailored for me. The weight is perfect for late spring early fall. For the price this jacket has no faults.

since getting mine in late april i have worn my standard xl+ everyday and it still feels great !!! awesome jacket ! it looked awesome at the free comic book day store i was at giving away comics to customers .here i am with the 501st guys

crismans wrote:That's a very nice looking jacket, interchange. I'd really like to check out a standard one of these days. They seem like a ton of jacket for the $.

It's blasphemy and I hope Tony isn't reading this but I find myself wearing my Todd's standard much more than my shrunken lamb or CS now that the weather in Chi-town is getting warmer.

PSBIndy wrote:

crismans wrote:That's a very nice looking jacket, interchange. I'd really like to check out a standard one of these days. They seem like a ton of jacket for the $.

It's blasphemy and I hope Tony isn't reading this but I find myself wearing my Todd's standard much more than my shrunken lamb or CS now that the weather in Chi-town is getting warmer.

Yeah it's blasphemy

you're going camping with Crismans?

See the thing to do if you're a jacket nut like me without common sense is to set up a system:

35 and below--you wear one jacket (say a CS)

35-55--you wear a slightly lighter jacket (say a G and B or a TN I)

45-55--you wear a light jacket (Todd's)

See, it all makes sense.

This is probably a dumb question...
I'm thinking of ordering a Todd's standard and I noticed the website advises "order a size up". I normally wear a large. Does this mean order a L+ or an XL? The measurement chart is a bit odd and "+" sizes seem a little nonstandard. I realize everyone's fit will be different, but a little advice from those having gone before never hurts...

Dragonlady Jones wrote:This is probably a dumb question...
I'm thinking of ordering a Todd's standard and I noticed the website advises "order a size up". I normally wear a large. Does this mean order a L+ or an XL? The measurement chart is a bit odd and "+" sizes seem a little nonstandard. I realize everyone's fit will be different, but a little advice from those having gone before never hurts...

If your chest size is 44 and up, order the XL......if you're at least 6'2", the XL+ may have to do.

PSBIndy wrote:

Dragonlady Jones wrote:This is probably a dumb question...
I'm thinking of ordering a Todd's standard and I noticed the website advises "order a size up". I normally wear a large. Does this mean order a L+ or an XL? The measurement chart is a bit odd and "+" sizes seem a little nonstandard. I realize everyone's fit will be different, but a little advice from those having gone before never hurts...

If your chest size is 44 and up, order the XL......if you're at least 6'2", the XL+ may have to do.

Many thanks! I am indeed a 44 and based on a little more research (meaning I actually searched through other threads - imagine that?!?) looks like an XL for me.

I'd been meaning to get in on this topic much sooner, so now that I've made it, let me make my addition(s) to the group. I just want to do these jackets (and more so, Todd) justice.

I've ended up with two Todd's Standards; a Small, purchased in February 2008 and a Medium+ purchased in May 2009. The reason for the up-sized purchase this year was due to my wishing for longer sleeves. A custom was out of the picture; budgetary reasons. This time when I ordered I labored for about 2 weeks thinking about which size to go with and after ad nauseam measuring of other jackets and shirts trying to guess what would look OK, I finally put on a similarly cut wool jacket and folded it up using all the measurements on Todd's web page. That confirmed the Medium+.

The small has had over a year to wear in and it has appropriate wear to show. My only problem with the jacket was that shortly after ordering it in 2008 (about2-3 weeks of wearing), the linings separating the hand warmer and snap pockets detached at the bottom on both pockets. Heaviest items carried there had been an iPod and/or keys. Not wanting to whine, I let it go. But it ate at me. Normal right?

So this winter I wrote Todd an email explaining all this and asking what I could do. His reply; send it back, we'll fix it and all it will cost is postage. When I got the jacket back, pretty much a week to the day that I mailed it to him (and this is a cross-country trip mind you) I was happy because however they did it, I can't tell, as all the stitches look exactly as they were, but the pocket problem was fixed. The construction in there was now a bit different too; sturdier, less apt to pull out, but I'm probably not explaining this well at all. Suffice to say, it worked.

Now, seeing the change in the texture of the leather used in his jackets that others here have recently purchased pretty much tipped me over the edge. Since I wasn't happy with my original sleeve lengths, it was time for a new jacket. I'll admit it, I felt dumb owning two of the same jackets from one vendor, but this new one is awesome. The medium+ has slightly heavier leather with better grain and a totally different hand warmer/front pocket construction that I do not believe will give any problems. And I'm sure someone will ask so let me answer first: Yes, I can do the flipped-up collar thing from the temple scene with the new one. Not really possible on the old one.

Thanks Todd for the jackets (along with all the other stuff I've ended up with from your store, winners all) and keep up the good work.

As a teaser here is a shot of the two on "equal footing", same type hanger, hung at equal height (2008 S left, 2009 Med+ right, as viewed):


For the full series, it was easier to just link to my Flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28642132@N ... 355801761/

OK, I've got to join in too. The new "+" sizes reeled me in and I recently bought a L+ from Todd. I'd read a lot about how SA they were and I have to say, now that I have it, it is all that people say. It has a very nice grain with some course areas and smoother areas and a perfect light weight for the Spring/Summer months in Chicago. It's a great jacket and just screams Raiders, maybe more so than anything I've tried on.

Fantastic customer service, fast shipping, I couldn't be happier with Todd's.

The_Raiders wrote:


And LC style of course!

Love the hat, mind me asking what brand it is? I'm going for the LC look myself.....

Tibor wrote:OK, I've got to join in too. The new "+" sizes reeled me in and I recently bought a L+ from Todd. I'd read a lot about how SA they were and I have to say, now that I have it, it is all that people say. It has a very nice grain with some course areas and smoother areas and a perfect light weight for the Spring/Summer months in Chicago. It's a great jacket and just screams Raiders, maybe more so than anything I've tried on.

Fantastic customer service, fast shipping, I couldn't be happier with Todd's.

This may be a bit off topic and will probably be an apples vs. oranges comparison, but when I read about all the "quirks" that seeming invariably occur when ordering from other jacket vendors, well, honestly, that scared me off from those vendors when I bought my new standard.
I flirted with the idea of purchasing a jacket from somewhere else, but my experience with the repair to my original Todd's Standard, knowing what I was ordering (due to Todd's listed measurements on his site) and that I would have what I ordered in one week it was a no-brainer for me.

The Standard has got to be the best bang for your buck of any Indy jacket available. I love mine!

Jack

I have had my Todd's standard (it's a medium) for a little over a year now and absolutely love it. It just gets better with age.

Do all Todds have a back panel that doesn't extend to the yoke seam and straps that are that short?

Can't speak for the others, but my back panel doesn't meet at the seam. As for the straps on mine, I was letting them sit so loose to try and combat the billowing action pleats. That and also I heard that they can pop if they are cinched up too tight. they have been that way for so long I just got used to seeing them like that.

VP wrote:Do all Todds have a back panel that doesn't extend to the yoke seam and straps that are that short?

Wow, VP, you're on fire tonight. Maybe put that drink down!

VP wrote:Do all Todds have a back panel that doesn't extend to the yoke seam and straps that are that short?

First part: If by "yoke seam" you mean the sleeve/yoke/back panel junction area, then neither of mine do. Each of my back panels is 0.5 in (15cm) shy of that point in space. In researching jackets on here I found that, for some, where these seams meet (or don't meet) is a deal-breaker. This is different between my two jackets. On the older one, they have the 1 inch of spacing; on the newer one, all seams meet.

Second part: Short straps are not a problem on my latest jacket. I actually reroute my new straps back through the buckles because they are too long for my tastes, (I'm conditioned to tuck in loose straps on things, i.e. ex-military) and the longer straps smacking around back there get to me.

However, none of this was even something I considered, nor has it ever been a problem for me. I've never been pulled aside in public and told "I know you are trying for an Indy jacket there, but that back panel is 1/2 inch too shy in width at the top on both sides to nail the look." Same thing with the straps. Those few people that do recognize it go "Man, that's an kick-### Indy jacket." Otherwise I get "Nice jacket" quite a bit.

My take on all this gear is this: almost 30 years ago, standards were created for a jacket/hat/whatever and now people go to an in-the-weeds level approach to get something exacting for these items. The only exact thing is the standard, the particular item in a particular scene. Unless you get one of those; which all had, to my understanding, differences between even them, then exact is pretty elusive.

I see it as it all comes down to personal preference with what one will accept in, what is after all, a garment. For me, this jacket is accurate enough in all aspects to fit the bill. I may be alone in that belief, and I can imagine a jacket-purists' head would be ready to implode at this point with these inaccuracies and the fact I'm perfectly fine with them to say I have an "Indy" jacket, but I'm OK with that. There's bigger fish to fry in my world.

Side by side evidence of the straps:


And my strap "blasphemy":



Other pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28642132@N ... 355801761/

Well said, Mountaineer. I feel the same way. You know, I have never actually been chased down the street by a crazed person with a measuring tape. See, I look at the over all garment and never fretted over the details mentioned by VP. Annnnd in the year and 3 months that I have had the jacket, been posting pictures and wearing it everywhere not one person has even hinted at a negative comment about it. he bottom line is I am not Harrison Ford and this is not 1979. I am me, this is 2009, that is MY jacket (my LUCKY jacket at that) and I love it. It captures the feel of Indiana Jones and that is what I wanted. If that's not good enough for someone else, well, they're just gonna have to find a way to cope with themselves because it ain't botherin' me none.

Hello friends,

If anyone has Todds size M+ please contact me by PM.

I guess M+ is larger than M but if this is true I don't understand how the length of M is 24.5in and the length of M+ 23

see here

http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/jacke ... jacket.htm

Yes Platon, someone did very recently, the post shouldn't be hard to find. The M+ is closer to the Hero jacket size in all areas.

RC thanks
Is it a 'post' in this thread? or a different thread?

PLATON wrote:RC thanks
Is it a 'post' in this thread? or a different thread?

PLATON,

That was my review here: http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=40486

The sizes on Todd's website are correct. Go with those when you order.

My understanding is that he adjusted the sizing of the jackets between batches (or runs) from his factory and the "+" are these newer ones; and what will solely be offered once the older ones (non+) are gone.

You can see the logic when you look at just the + sizes. Their lengths go up an inch on them as you get bigger sizes, like one would imagine. When you look at the non+ sizes alone, those do something similar. Put together the two groups seem off, but it makes sense when you know a little of their history.

According to him, both batches/runs have the new, more textured leather.

Todd's is pretty open with everything he has done via this forum, plus what you see on his website is what you get. He'll answer just about any question you may have too. I'm just saying there is no reason (in my experience) to second-guess something he's published, be it here or his site.

Hope this helps.

the only difference I see in the old and new sizes given on the chart is the new chart give actual chest sizes of the person, the old chart was chest circumference of the jacket.

DeWayne wrote:The thinness is one of my favorite features of the Todd's, especially here in the San Joaquin Valley. Not only that, thin leather looks "Raiders" to me. Indy's jacket flaps around like a superhero's cape in "Raiders". I could be wrong, I probably am, but that's just how it looks to my eyes.

Which city?

DeWayne wrote:The thinness is one of my favorite features of the Todd's, especially here in the San Joaquin Valley. Not only that, thin leather looks "Raiders" to me. Indy's jacket flaps around like a superhero's cape in "Raiders". I could be wrong, I probably am, but that's just how it looks to my eyes.

I agree.Todd is the only jacket vendor to match the thinness of the Raiders leather IMO.
Watch in the scene in Imam's house where Sallah claps Indy on the shoulders(just before Indy throws the date in the air)-look at how the leather reacts when Sallah puts his hand on it-that is thin leather!

I think if Todds ever offers the Standard in shrunken lamb, we might have the "perfect" Indy jacket......if there ever is such a thing.

blueoakleyz wrote: Which city?

Sorry, brain fart. I meant Sacramento Valley. I'm near Galt.

Currently, I don't think any other jacket gets as close to the "Raiders" look as the Todd's does. The thin leather and the not-so-tough as nails construction contribute a lot to this I think. Is it perfect? I don't think so. Between the unique construction of the originals that we see on screen most of the time, and really fun stuff like lens distortion (if you think the jacket's fun, try researching the Vader helmet from screen grabs, etc.) the only place we'll see a perfect "Raiders" jacket is there, on the screen, in the movie. There is no way to capture that 100% in real life. Cameras lie, oh boy do they lie.

So last night I ordered a Todd's standard (happy birthday to me!) based on the great reviews from this thread. I hope you guys are right!
Thanks for all the reviews and pics they helped a lot.
Wulfgang
who just received a confirmation e-mail that the jacket has been sent!

Wulfgang wrote:So last night I ordered a Todd's standard (happy birthday to me!) based on the great reviews from this thread. I hope you guys are right!
Thanks for all the reviews and pics they helped a lot.
Wulfgang
who just received a confirmation e-mail that the jacket has been sent!

Congratulations I think you'll be fine.
If not, Todd has a good exchange policy. I doubt you'll need it, but some people can be finicky when it come to this stuff.
At it's least it's a jacket that bears a strong resemblance to Indy's, and if you keep it you'll probably be one of the few in your area to wear such a jacket.
At it's best it's the best darn resemblance to Indy's jacket for $150 US clams and you'll be totally happy with it.

Man, oh man, I really like my new jacket!!

It got here today, just in time for me to wear it on a road trip I am going on with some friends tomorrow. I threw it on to walk the dog late this afternoon. I am not an Indy Jacket expert (yet!), but here are a few observations:
It's a great spring jacket. It's very soft and light, but not in a windbreaker way. It appears almost black indoors and a really nice dark brown outside. Very ROLA in my opinion. I am going to let it age naturally.

I ordered a large, but I was sent an extra large.. which turns out to be a better fit for me, so thanks Todd TOH
And I know ;0 but my camera is packed for my trip. I will try to get a few pics at the Royal Ontario Museum when I visit this weekend, it's a pretty good place for an Indy type pic or two!

Thanks again to all those who contributed to this thread and especially Todd!!
Wulfie

Okay, I broke down and ordered mine today. You guys talked me in to it. Plus with the finacial things the way they are for me right now the G & B is just going to have to wait. But I'll get there, or maybe I won't have to. Hopefully I got the measuring of myself and the sizing interpreted correctly. I must admit I'm a little nervous.
Anyway I'll let you all know.

It didn't hurt that yesterday morning while putting on my Todd's shirt, my wife says to me in that "way" she has, "I like you in that shirt, you look like you're going on a mission!"

Thanks again Todd!

Oh thank God, the forum is postable again.
I have to measure to make sure, but I recently saw the thread that Todd is offering larger sizes, and, an OTR just might fit me finally!!! I could have my very first Raiders jacket.

This thread certainly is helping me want it more too. Keep the pics coming guys! More action shots!

Looks like I am going for a M+ (although I'd rather have the back 24 instead of 23 inches)

Does anybody have the M+ ?
I don't think we ever saw any photos of it, I mean worn.

And one question. Do the new + sizes have patch pockets, or do the side entry pockets cut into the lining (as the SA thing should be). Will appreciate a reply.

I got mine last Thursday and have worn it almost every day since at least once!

Thanks Todd!

I know I know, Pictures. I'll figure something out.

PLATON wrote:Looks like I am going for a M+ (although I'd rather have the back 24 instead of 23 inches)

Does anybody have the M+ ?
I don't think we ever saw any photos of it, I mean worn.

And one question. Do the new + sizes have patch pockets, or do the side entry pockets cut into the lining (as the SA thing should be). Will appreciate a reply.

I have an M+.

My avatar isn't that one it is my old S, but I do have up side by side photos of those two in comparison. I know, still not what you asked for but I'm working on that. I may have some up soon though.

The new one's pockets are as follows:
1. Snap pockets are sewn directly to the jacket front panel. From the outside the materials that comprise this external pocket, in order, are leather (pocket front), flannel (interior), air (pocket's space, where you can put stuff), leather (the front panel of the jacket).

2. Handwarmers are a slit in the jacket's exterior with the handwarmer consisting of a flannel pocket sewn inside. The pocket is free-floating, meaning it moves up and down a bit behind the front exterior of the jacket and the jacket's inner liner. They fit a 30G iPod Video or my PPC6700 (one in each pocket, not both in same handwarmer at the same time) with no fear of them falling out.

Hopefully that made sense.