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Ya I think that is what I am going to use is needle nose pliers, and it was strange yesterday I thought about what i could have done better and I was like well I could have probably used duct tape. Oh well it is too late now. Its too late to call Peter too cause they are closed and I got busy yesterday so oh well. Ya the guy at the hardware store told me to use these angled pliers. That pretty much damages the coating on the outside, and a few I guess I put too much force on it. Compared to Peter's D-rings the strapworks metal can easily break, the d-ring I can feel are much more durable to bending a lot. I think I am going with Peter cause he gives you them for free, you do have to pay shipping though. Unless Michigan you have a few extras I could have or I could send you a few bucks for them, just send me a PM.

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Michaelson wrote:(Pssst. Hey, Ripper. Want to hear George scream? Mail him an empty envelope. We can watch what happens from under my Plymouth. :lol: What's that you said.....this mic is on!? :roll: errr.....never mind. 8-[ )

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I hate to bump and old thread like this but unfortunately I did recieve an empty envelope from Wested last Friday. It was supposed to contain a set of sliders but the only thing in the envelope was the "With Compliments" paper. I couldn't help but laugh as I had already referred to this thread before the empty envelope arrived to find out how easy they were to replace. Gemma e-mailed me today and stated she would send another set out.
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I HATE it when a good idea gets stolen like that. :? :lol: :wink:

Sorry to hear about that, but it happens.

I came within inches of having the same thing happen to me with a Waltham regulator screw that was mailed to me in a regular paper mailing envelope. It had gone through a mailing machine somewhere, and the pressure of the roller had pushed the metal screw through the side of the envelope. It was inside a smaller envelope that had hung up the screw threads, and THAT'S the only reason it even arrived. Otherwise I would have received an envelope with a bill, and an otherwise empty envelope with a small hole in the side.

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Scot2525, that does **** and hopefully they're actually be in the envelope next time. If you have to give up on the Wested ones, I can vouch for the ones from strapworks.com, I've gotten a few sets from them and they're great.. always order a couple extra though (they can break while installing, and they're cheap).

Actually I have been strongly considering breaking off the tri-glides (or whatever they're called) from my custom Todd's jacket and add the spare set of rectantagles that I have. Because the tri-glides tend to cause the straps to just sit flat on the back panel too much, it looks weird...like the straps are glued down and pointing at each other from across the back panel. The rectangles on the other hand, let the leather strips jut out the side a little bit. looking more accurate (to my eye anyway).

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Nice job changing them.I route mine this way...............
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BlueSkyz I like the way you have routed your straps.

Doug C's straps point towards each other and lay across the back panel and my straps point away from each other and hang away from the jacket.

Which one is screen accurate for ROTLA?
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Yours are right, they are supposed to flop out away from the jacket:

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Yea they should be the way your's are,screen accurate. I like my routing,cleaner but blasphemous,banished to #### with the rest of the non screen accurate's.
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Then again, in that shot the wind is definately at Indy's back :lol:

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In that shot I would have to agree that the straps were routed through the sliders and faced each other at one time but due to wear and the wind they were being blown away from the jacket.
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scot2525 wrote:In that shot I would have to agree that the straps were routed through the sliders and faced each other at one time but due to wear and the wind they were being blown away from the jacket.
you're looking at 1 piece 3-bar center buckles, not 2 piece sliders. sliders are a close 'nuff for the raiders jacket.

have a lookee at how todd's jacket straps are oriented.
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IG wrote:
have a lookee at how todd's jacket straps are oriented.
Yea, I was complaining about them a few lines up because they cause the straps to sit flat on the back panel and point towards each other... but maybe that's SA I don't know, but I certainly prefer the rectangle because they will usually do the opposite and I like the look of the straps hanging out the sides. BTW, I'm correcting that problem with my Todd's by bending the leather strips down as often as possible. The rectangles sliders are waiting in case I give up.

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Post by Indiana G »

Doug, over time the strap tails do a nice curl away from each other. this comes from constantly sitting down with your jacket on and the straps rubbing against the back of the chair.....then it'll look like the way sliders are oriented :wink:

i'll admit that when new, the sliders look better than the buckles.....but i've grown to like the buckles.
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I just put rectangular sliders on my Wested, using the complimentary ones Gemma sent (she's been great to work with).

But now that they're on I'm wondering whether I might like the flat black ones from Strapworks better.

The upside of those from Wested is that the color is like that of the zipper and the snaps (though you can't see those) and goes all the way through.

The sliders from SW, however, are painted and already have some chips that show the bright silver underneath (probably couldn't see that much either). I did snap open one of the SWs but even with protection, the finish kept coming off. But would the black would offer a better contrast ... and more SA?

Here's a pic with the Wested ones on and the SW one sitting beside them.

Thoughts?

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Looks good, LPA. How you liking your jacket?
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Texan Scott wrote:Looks good, LPA. How you liking your jacket?
I do like it. The leather is so soft I wonder if it'll ever wrinkle quite like the real one.
The odd thing is that now I'm wearing it, I notice brown leather jackets everywhere! Of course none just like this one...

With the rectangular sliders if you pull too hard on the straps, one of them can actually tip and the one slide through the other!
Don't think the D-rings would do that. Just have to snug it up carefully.

I've also done the S loop back through the top slider to get them pointing back, which I do like better.
Now to see if they'll hold that way.

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Indiana G wrote:i'll admit that when new, the sliders look better than the buckles.....but i've grown to like the buckles.
I'd like to be able to find some buckles like ones used on trenchcoat straps except not plastic. I'd want to be able to split the middle bar, though, so I could slip it on and not have to unstitch anything.

Or, I just get a Todds to wear when it's warmer. Hmmmm...
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lpa53 wrote:
Indiana G wrote:i'll admit that when new, the sliders look better than the buckles.....but i've grown to like the buckles.
I'd like to be able to find some buckles like ones used on trenchcoat straps except not plastic. I'd want to be able to split the middle bar, though, so I could slip it on and not have to unstitch anything.

Or, I just get a Todds to wear when it's warmer. Hmmmm...
you don't have to bust the center bar to put the buckles in. just find a really good tailor that can utilize the same holes for the new stitching. i did that on my washed goat wested. she did a bang up job on it....kinda pricey, but it was very well done.
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Indiana G wrote:you don't have to bust the center bar to put the buckles in. just find a really good tailor that can utilize the same holes for the new stitching. i did that on my washed goat wested. she did a bang up job on it....kinda pricey, but it was very well done.
My wife sews a lot and I think she could do it but I doubt she'd risk toudhing the jacket.

And still I'd first have to actually find some sliders. Are you supposed to use sliders that have teeth that grip or is that not needed?
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