Bag Strap Buckles Updated!

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:30 am

Thanks a bunch ID!

SJ has ordered 4 of them going to Sweden for us to share. Very much appreciated buddy!

Regards,
Swindiana

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:33 am

Dalexs,

I am still waiting for bulk discount info from the supplier. No word today.

The previous post was working with what I have at present, and for any casual buyers - some from Europe.

You of course don't fall into that category and he is aware of that

ID

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:54 pm

Our biggest problems so far have been the minimum order thing and finding a US source. I found this buckle today and it looks like the min order is 10$, I know it's brass, but the dimensions of the inside look like 1" x 1-1/4". What do you guys think?

http://www.woodedhamlet.com/buttons_cla ... ckles.html

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:52 pm

Looks pretty good, but I still think that if the buckle isn't perfectly square, than it should be slightly wider, than it is tall. Alot of the buckles have been too tall for a Raiders style. The ones Austin found are as close as I've seen yet, IMHO, and they really have an authentic look to them.
I just sent a few to some guys today, and when they get them, they can report in on what they think of them.

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:32 pm

IndyBlues wrote:Looks pretty good, but I still think that if the buckle isn't perfectly square, than it should be slightly wider, than it is tall.

Ah but it is square, on the bottom you will notice a shadow that makes it look rounded. It also looks curved too.

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By the way, I just talked with someone from Wooded Hamlet and if you mail a check, then there is no minimum order. I'm going to get a couple and post some pics.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:00 pm

Are you certain it's square? By my moniter, I get a 1/8" difference left to right, as pictured, than I do top to bottom.
Just wanted to clarify.
"Blues

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:15 pm

I was told that it was square. It's also curved, the apex of the curve is at the center bar. This might be what is giving it the illusion of being somewhat round. Hope I'm not being confusing.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:30 pm

I think we might not be on the same page on this.
I definately understand thet the buckle is square, meaning all 4 sides are flat, and the corners are 90 degree angles, it is not curved in the least, around the border. It IS curved in a concave way, sort of like a LC buckle.
What I was saying, was it's sides aren't of equal length, meaning that the top and bottom bars are longer then the sides, as pictured, by 1/8th of an inch, going by my monitor size.

IndianaGuybrush · Post by **IndianaGuybrush** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:19 pm

The curve could be adding that perceived difference Blues

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:46 pm

Just confirmed the inside dimensions: 1" x 1-1/8"

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:43 pm

indiana_dudley -
buckles arrived in my mailbox yesterday. They're great! Thanks for your help!

Regards,

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:14 pm

Good to hear they fly well

If you get any good piccies be sure to post, I'm sure your photography is better than mine.

ID

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:31 am

belloq wrote:Looks great. Though I think the original may have been straight and not curved. (unless I am mistaken, the buckle in the photo above looks a bit curved in profile.)

This question bugged me a little, so I have been trying to find some evidence. Then I came
across the following picture on the official site yesterday. I am pretty sure that this buckle
is curved similar to the ones I found, at least in this shot. I can't see any way that this is
a straight buckle as the light (whichever direction it's source) appears to be showing
curvature.

It seems to me that the lighting is coming from the floor, at the idol pedestal base, and
reflection is only on the bottom half of the buckle, throwing the top half into shadow...
However, Indy's face has full light across it....

Thoughts?

ID

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skywlkr · Post by **skywlkr** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:39 am

That strap almost appears to have a leather keeper above the buckle.

Luke

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:57 pm

Here's a little comparison pic:

The Todd is a bit off. WPG's buckle is OK, but perhaps a tad small. The "Dudley" buckle has a great shape, though it's a couple of millimeters wider than the others. In order to get the most out of it, a wider strap might be required.
Btw, that's a Todd de luxe strap in the pic.

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:36 pm

I originally thought the buckle too wide, but when I measured my
custom strap I found it to be shy of 1". So I dug out my WPG
strap and it fits perfectly.

SJ, is your strap exactly 1" in width?

Can you try the WPG strap on yours to - just checked again and
it's fine, although I hate the strap...

ID

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:45 pm

Yes, indiana_dudley, it looks better on the WPG strap - apparently, my Todd Coyle strap is a mere fraction short of an inch, which makes quite a difference.
My WPG strap is way too short, though. And I don't like it either.
Hmmm... a new strap project coming up... the buckles are well worth it!:D

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:04 pm

Dalexs wrote:I don't really think it's an issue to bulk purchase these buckles.
There are enough people who want more then 1 to make it worth while.

I would be willing to make the purchase, and feed them out from here
DEPENDING on what the bulk cost would be.

Dalexs

Dalexs,

I finally have a bulk price on these buckles. I will PM you details, but posted here so as to
stir up interest from potential US buyers for you.

ID

belloq · Post by **belloq** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:59 pm

Awesome thread. Regarding the raiders photo above, I believe the strap is reversed so we are actually seeing the back of the strap and buckle so it's hard to tell what we are seeing as to the buckle details.

Regarding the buckle comparison photo, can you add Lee Keppler's buckle? And is Todd's deluxe strap a full 1" wide?

BTW, here can I find Todd's merchandise?

Thanks for the continued research!

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:27 pm

belloq wrote:

Regarding the buckle comparison photo, can you add Lee Keppler's buckle?

I'd like to see a Keppler next to the Dudley too... unfortunately, I don't own one. Perhaps someone here does and chimes in?
belloq also wrote:

And is Todd's deluxe strap a full 1" wide?

It measures a little less than 1" - 2,48 cm quite exactly (mine does, anyway)
and then, he wrote:

BTW, here can I find Todd's merchandise?

http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/bag_strap.htm

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:17 am

Lord Clarence Mcdonald wrote:
beloq wrote:Awesome thread. Regarding the raiders photo above, I believe the strap is reversed so we are actually seeing the back of the strap and buckle so it's hard to tell what we are seeing as to the buckle details.
I believe this to be the correct assumption.

L.C.M.

I see what your saying guys, but if that is the case, then surely the strap is also being worn
completely backwards with the doubled leather part of the strap going back up over Indy's
shoulder and not down to the bag. That would of course also make the strap exceptionally
long in order to have the buckle where it is...

If you imagine normally with the strap reversed it would be the lower part of the buckle that
would be covered by the leather connecting the buckle, not the top half. Plus the top bar of
the buckle would also be covered by the strap going up over your shoulder. Take a look at the
back of a buckle on a strap...

ID

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:25 am

Scandinavia Jones wrote:
Regarding the buckle comparison photo, can you add Lee Keppler's buckle?
I'd like to see a Keppler next to the Dudley too... unfortunately, I don't own one. Perhaps someone here does and chimes in?

Unfortunately I don't either, just a collection of non-Indy looking samples, and a WPG.....

I pretty sure that all of the other people that have bought buckles/straps so far are first time
buyers. So don't think any will have a Kepler for comparison. The only person i can think
that may is Swindiana?

ID

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:26 am

Sorry guys, I don't have a Keppler buckle. I've heard they are pretty close to what WPG offers though. I was totally happy with my WPG buckle when I had it, only it was all brass back then. Now that they are nickel, I think they are perfect. I wouldn't order a bag just to get the buckle though.

The WPG buckle was pretty similar in size to my stamped one as seen in these pics:
Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3

Until I find one that matches this one in size and one that also is not stamped, my quest continues.
Still, there are buckles that are VERY good and nice looking, like the one from Dudley. Thanks again!

Regards,
Swindiana

Robert Duke · Post by **Robert Duke** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:32 am

I watched Raiders a few days ago. In the scene where he has just gotten off of the submarine which had taken the ark from the ship and gone to a small island. I noticed the 2nd German uniform Indy put on after the first one was from a guy too short and skinny.
Look at the buckles on the two straps. They look exactly the same as his bag strap buckle. If you follow the scene forward for a few minutes to where they do the ark "ceremonial-opening" you will also notice a few other Germans with the same strap/buckle. The strap is probably web/canvas but the buckle looks "dead-on" to be the same buckle as Indy's bag strap buckle.
Just something to think about and maybe worthy of study by members. Of course it's easy to check quickly if you have the DVD. At least you know about what scene to jump to.

Cheers,
Robert Duke

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:22 am

For more detailed shots of this buckle with measuring tape, take a look here.

indiana_dudley · Post by **indiana_dudley** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:14 am

Lord Clarence Mcdonald wrote: we don't mean "backwards" ,actually we mean the strap is flipped over so the backside of the leather and buckle are showing.

I'm @#$% at explaining, but that is also exactly what I mean. Re-read the previous post
with that in mind - excluding my first point.

ID

dkwd · Post by **dkwd** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:06 pm

Are you able to adjust the gama on that picture above?
It looks like the buckle is there just dark -like it was curved - the way that the bridge of Indy's nose is dark.

David

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:17 am

That was me.

I just PMed you once more. I need 6 and asked the total with shipping. In case your PM box goes down again my zip is 91790.

Cheers,
Jeff

Got Maul · Post by **Got Maul** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:32 am

I'll take a few buckles indiana mikey !

looks good man !

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