Wested Leather - Legacy Last Crusade Jacket

[Aveo133]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the site, but wanted to get your thoughts on the Wested Leather Legacy Last Crusade jacket.

I have a Raiders Hero jacket from Wested, and while I greatly adore it, it does feel rather long and baggy on me (despite doing what I thought were the proper measurements). Only after I purchased the jacket did I learn that the Raiders Hero jacket is an odd fit because it's based on the original jacket that was hastily made for Harrison Ford in 2 weeks. Oh well, lesson learned, but on that note, I do want to get another jacket. This time, a Last Crusade one!

I have my eye on the Legacy LC jacket, but before I order it, I wanted to get your thoughts. Therefore, my question is: how's the Legacy LC fit? Typically, I'm a size 44 with a back size of about 27 (I'm 5ft, 10in, too). I know Wested is kinda weird with their sizing, so I wanted to see if some of you could potentially help me out here.
In your experience, do you recommend I order my normal size, or should I adjust some sections (ex: adjust the back/sleeve length)? I want it to look screen accurate, but at the same time, also want to wear it as an everyday jacket. At the end of the day, I just really don't want another long & baggy leather jacket, so any advice/tips you can provide would be awesome.

Thanks so much!


-Avery

[tomek9210]

I think that 27 inch back would be at least two inches too long for you if you are 5'11".

[Sempre Avanti]

Hey Avery,

I’m 5’10, 175 pounds and wear a size 46 regular. My typical measurements are a 24 inch sleeve and 26 inch back length.

This has been what I call “the sweet spot” of measurements for me in regards to Wested’s Last Crusade jackets. I’ve had at least ten of them over the years and currently have 3 at the moment.

My best fit with Wested came when I took the exact measurements they asked for, and provided measurements where I actually wanted to see the jacket fall… meaning if I wanted the sleeves to rest right above my knuckles, that’s the measurement I gave them. Back length, the same. They have been, for the most part accurate in my experience.

My advice is to do the same.

That’s the trick with these jackets… getting your best measurements, where you want the sleeve length and back length to rest, what looks best on you.

Hope this helps!

[Holt]

Im 6'2'' and wear a 44 with 27 inch backlenght.

[Aveo133]

I think that 27 inch back would be at least two inches too long for you if you are 5'11".

Thanks for the suggestion! Really appreciate it. So, would you recommend a back size of about 25 or 26 then?

[Aveo133]

Thanks for the reference photos. Is that the Wested Legacy? Your jacket fits you great! Also, fantastic job on the weathering! Looks like it came right out of the movie.
Am I correct to assume with the 27 back, the jacket sits just below your beltline (AKA the "ideal spot")? It looks like it, but can't really tell for certain. I'm wondering, given my height at 5 FT, 10 IN, if I should go for a 26 back, maybe? 27 will probably be too long for me. What do you think?

[Aveo133]

Hey Avery,

I’m 5’10, 175 pounds and wear a size 46 regular. My typical measurements are a 24 inch sleeve and 26 inch back length.

This has been what I call “the sweet spot” of measurements for me in regards to Wested’s Last Crusade jackets. I’ve had at least ten of them over the years and currently have 3 at the moment.

My best fit with Wested came when I took the exact measurements they asked for, and provided measurements where I actually wanted to see the jacket fall… meaning if I wanted the sleeves to rest right above my knuckles, that’s the measurement I gave them. Back length, the same. They have been, for the most part accurate in my experience.

My advice is to do the same.

That’s the trick with these jackets… getting your best measurements, where you want the sleeve length and back length to rest, what looks best on you.

Hope this helps!

Wow, thanks for the lengthy reply! For me, I want it to sit right at, or slightly below my beltline. However, I don't know if that will be too short, or not. Where does your sit on you? You're almost the same size as me, except I'm just over 200 LBS.

[tomek9210]

I think that 27 inch back would be at least two inches too long for you if you are 5'11".

Thanks for the suggestion! Really appreciate it. So, would you recommend a back size of about 25 or 26 then?

Yes, probably 25 inch would work for your height. Maybe 25.5.

[donovan]

Don’t wish to confuse the issue any further , but are you aware the LC jacket pattern differs from the raiders pattern in that the armhole placement is lower on the torso. I have the Wested legacy ,a great jacket , until you zip it up and try to raise your arms - you get that ‘bat wing’ or ‘flying squirrel’ look. Not an issue if you wear it unzipped but it bugged me. I am sure other more knowledgeable members can advise you better on this. Good luck in your jacket quest.

[Aveo133]

Don’t wish to confuse the issue any further , but are you aware the LC jacket pattern differs from the raiders pattern in that the armhole placement is lower on the torso. I have the Wested legacy ,a great jacket , until you zip it up and try to raise your arms - you get that ‘bat wing’ or ‘flying squirrel’ look. Not an issue if you wear it unzipped but it bugged me. I am sure other more knowledgeable members can advise you better on this. Good luck in your jacket quest.

Thanks for the tip! I was aware there were some differences, but didn't know it was related to the armhole placement. Does that mean the sleeves would be longer/shorter, depending on where I measure it? Perhaps I could request gussets to be added to the jacket when I order it, so that way it might help with that a little bit. That said, I seldom zip my jackets up, unless it's freezing cold out. In that case, I just retire my leather jacket until the spring. In your humble opinion, do you like the LC Legacy jacket, or do you prefer another cut, like the Temple? Once again, thanks.

[Aveo133]

I think that 27 inch back would be at least two inches too long for you if you are 5'11".

Thanks for the suggestion! Really appreciate it. So, would you recommend a back size of about 25 or 26 then?

I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for your help!

Yes, probably 25 inch would work for your height. Maybe 25.5.

[donovan]

Each to their own and obviously it depends on what ‘look’ you’re going for - but if you’re going to wear it as an everyday jacket I personally favour the raiders pattern. The higher armhole placement enables you to have more freedom of movement in your arms when the jacket is zipped up.In my experience when you zip up the Last crusade jacket and raise your arms you get that ‘batwing’ effect and the jacket rides up your torso. Again this is only my experience,other members may not have this problem. Gussets may be a solution to this . I love the LC jacket but for me the raiders is more comfortable. The temple is another option it ,like the raiders, has the armholes placed higher but is a more ‘fitted’ style jacket. Hope this helps.

[lankywookiee]

Great work Holt, the fit looks perfect!
I’m building up to ordering my third attempt at getting the size right… first one I ordered was too long, second too short!
At least I’ve got spares to practice the ageing on I guess, hopefully I get it looking as good as yours once I’m done!

[Prodigal Son]

Each to their own and obviously it depends on what ‘look’ you’re going for - but if you’re going to wear it as an everyday jacket I personally favour the raiders pattern. The higher armhole placement enables you to have more freedom of movement in your arms when the jacket is zipped up.In my experience when you zip up the Last crusade jacket and raise your arms you get that ‘batwing’ effect and the jacket rides up your torso. Again this is only my experience,other members may not have this problem. Gussets may be a solution to this . I love the LC jacket but for me the raiders is more comfortable. The temple is another option it ,like the raiders, has the armholes placed higher but is a more ‘fitted’ style jacket. Hope this helps.

I can agree with you on the LC fit. Zipped up even 1/3rd of the way, it was pretty restrictive for me. Maybe I'll have to get a TOD jacket some time.

[donovan]

Prodigal Son - the temple is a good option for an everyday jacket , maybe go up a size as it’s a more fitted style. Harrison Ford may have experienced the same issue with the Last Crusade jacket during filming as it’s rarely seen zipped up ( I think it’s only seen zipped during the airship/bi-plane scene) .

[Prodigal Son]

Prodigal Son - the temple is a good option for an everyday jacket , maybe go up a size as it’s a more fitted style. Harrison Ford may have experienced the same issue with the Last Crusade jacket during filming as it’s rarely seen zipped up ( I think it’s only seen zipped during the airship/bi-plane scene) .

What are the sleeves like? Are they tighter than the Raiders off-the-rack jacket? I just looked at the size charts for the ToD and Raiders. For a 44, it's only 1" less on the pit-to-pit. Is the ToD slimmer at the bottom? What I mean to ask, is the torso on the ToD tapered (whereas the Raiders is just square)? What I mean, is does it get narrower (slimmer) toward the bottom than it is at the pit-to-pit area?

[donovan]

I have an ‘off the rack’ Temple and it is a more slimmer fit jacket compared to the raiders . The Temple sleeves are narrower and although the torso is slimmer mine doesn’t taper towards the waist. I have it in lambskin and generally only wear it during the summer months (unzipped - like in the film) as being a slimmer fit doesn’t allow for any layering in colder weather but as it’s only worn in hotter temperatures this isn’t a problem - personally with its chunky zipper I think it looks better unzipped anyway. Hope this helps.

[Prodigal Son]

I have an ‘off the rack’ Temple and it is a more slimmer fit jacket compared to the raiders . The Temple sleeves are narrower and although the torso is slimmer mine doesn’t taper towards the waist. I have it in lambskin and generally only wear it during the summer months (unzipped - like in the film) as being a slimmer fit doesn’t allow for any layering in colder weather but as it’s only worn in hotter temperatures this isn’t a problem - personally with its chunky zipper I think it looks better unzipped anyway. Hope this helps.

That does help. Thank you.

[Darthbauer]

It’s wild that Holt is an Inch taller than me and rocks a back length of 27 but if I’m measuring correctly, I need a 29. I measured myself multiple times and also measured another jacket that fits me perfectly the way I’d like my Indy jacket to fit and it’s 29 inches.


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[CM]

It’s wild that Holt is an Inch taller than me and rocks a back length of 27 but if I’m measuring correctly, I need a 29. I measured myself multiple times and also measured another jacket that fits me perfectly the way I’d like my Indy jacket to fit and it’s 29 inches.

I am six two and wear a back length of 26 inches. I do think some people like their Indy jackets long. 29 inches would be close to a 3/4 length coat for me.

[Darthbauer]

It’s wild that Holt is an Inch taller than me and rocks a back length of 27 but if I’m measuring correctly, I need a 29. I measured myself multiple times and also measured another jacket that fits me perfectly the way I’d like my Indy jacket to fit and it’s 29 inches.

I am six two and wear a back length of 26 inches. I do think some people like their Indy jackets long. 29 inches would be close to a 3/4 length coat for me.

I think I’m just a freak with a long torso and long arms. I got a jacket with a 24 inch back and it’s well above my waist and looks like a brown leather waiter’s jacket.


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[lankywookiee]

Finally reordered a slightly longer jacket and finally got the sizing just right, only disappointment is that I left it too long to get the Fiocchi studs.

I noticed they weren’t on the jacket and reached out to Wested and they’ve run out

[Arch Stanton]

I think this is a good image for measuring yourself if you want it to fit like the movie...



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[Dr. Jonesy]

Hi everyone!

I know this is an older thread, but it's relevant to my question. So, quick question: Is there any difference in the cut (that affects the back length and sleeves) between a standard LC jacket and a Legacy LC?

Thanks!
Dr. Jonesy

[Holt]

No they are both pretty boxy cuts and have plenty of room in the shoulder. The Legacy LC is a tad tigther in the armhole meaning the sleeve goes higher up on the inside. The stanard of the rack has bigger armholes (they are cut lower on the torso)

[Tremolo]

The legacy LC also has a slightly longer front length.

[Dr. Jonesy]

Holt and Tremolo, thank you for the information, and I apologize for the delayed response. It's always wonderful to receive feedback from LC experts!

I plan to order a Legacy LC jacket, but I’m unsure if the Legacy cut and lambskin are appropriate for everyday wear.

[Rob]

I plan to order a Legacy LC jacket, but I’m unsure if the Legacy cut and lambskin are appropriate for everyday wear.

The simplest answer is, define what 'everyday wear' is to you. If it's riding a motorcycle then, no, that would probably be a bad idea. If it's commuting to work on a bus, where you will then sling the jacket over the back of your chair while you type on a PC all day, then it's going to be 110% fantastic. Those are two extremes, and you're probably somewhere in between the two.

The thing about the lambskin jackets - and this is something I only really, truly, understood when I got one for the first time last year, after decades of wearing 'tougher' hides - is that while you can absolutely find 1001 horror stories online where people suggest if you breathe wrong on a lambskin jacket it will shred itself into 50 pieces, they're a wee bit more solid than that

If you want a wonderfully soft jacket that feels broken in from day one and, of course has 'the drape' (tm)(c), then get lambskin. If you have some special need, however, do factor that in.

[Holt]

I dont care what I do in my jacket. I go out and life finds me. It can be walking to the store, working on my car, chop wood or climbing a mountain. Wear and dont care. You'll be fine

[Jonesy Jr.]

I agree with Holt. Wear and don't care. Leather jackets get to look even better after wearing them a lot.

[Holt]

Totally, wear and dont care!

When I first got my Indy jackets back in mid 2000's I was very into artificial distressing. However, I understand Michaelson more and more now as I wont even let my sandpaper go near my jacket. I guess it comes with age and when Im about 175 years old like Michaelson is I'll grow a handlebar mustache too.

Artificial distress is for cosply only.

[Rob]

I dont care what I do in my jacket. I go out and life finds me. It can be walking to the store, working on my car, chop wood or climbing a mountain. Wear and dont care. You'll be fine

That's all well and good, but surely you wouldn't advocate that a lambskin jacket should be used on a motorbike, which was one of the points I was making? It would be extremely bad news in an accident.

On the whole though, I agree with you. The lamb holds up to loads of action - far more than the 'horror stories', which I also talked about above, lead people to believe. But to be fair to the question posed, of course there's a difference in the toughness and usefulness of the lamb versus cow, horse, goat, whatever. We wouldn't have 10,000 threads about the topic here on the forum without that being the case.

So it does have its limitations which is why I began by asking Dr. Jonesy to define what 'everyday wear' is to them. That's the best starting point to answer them specifically, I think

[Dr. Jonesy]

These lambskin-related horror stories are the reason I’ve had second thoughts about lambskin.

By “everyday wear," I mean normal stuff. The most extreme example I can think of is wearing the jacket while going on a mountain hike in the spring or autumn. I’m not planning on being dragged behind a truck (or punching Nazis on a WWI tank), so I suppose a lambskin jacket should be fine!

[Rob]

These lambskin-related horror stories are the reason I’ve had second thoughts about lambskin.

I thought they might be which is why I mentioned them... they put me off getting a lambskin jacket for many years, myself! True story.

By “everyday wear," I mean normal stuff. The most extreme example I can think of is wearing the jacket while going on a mountain hike in the spring or autumn. I’m not planning on being dragged behind a truck (or punching Nazis on a WWI tank), so I suppose a lambskin jacket should be fine!

Yep, lamb will hold up just fine to all of that. It will also weather and age nicely; much faster than the tougher leathers. So soft, it's like a second skin. Enjoy