So - who made the Screen used jackets for DOD?

[WConly]

If this is already addressed and I have failed to discover it -- sorry, but I am still curious as to who manufactured the DOD Screen used jackets? W>

[IJJTM]

All we know is that it was apparently made in house, which could be a myriad of answers.

[Illinois_Jones]

It was made by the production costume dept, almost certainly based on a Wested they got a hold of and tweaked to suit their needs.

[WConly]

Thanks! I somehow missed this and for some reason it hit me again, today and started knawing at me! Again, thanks ! W>

[marker2037]

Yea, I think it's obvious that the jacket was based off of a Wested, just made in house by the costume department themselves. Wested did a great job of recreating the production's recreation of a Wested!

[bearbeast]

That is some westedception right there. Copying a design that was copied after their design...

Bear

[Indiana Jeff]

Credit needs to be given to Wested now for the DoD jacket since for years (decades?) they were putting out jackets with COAs "using the same patterns" that nowhere matched the screen-used jackets.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

[xmasters]

I remember somebody on this forum two years ago said they'd sold their old Wested on Ebay to someone from Pinewood studios.

[Michaelson]

I remember that, but since Disney has its own in-house costume facility, I doubt that sale would factor into the equation, especially since Disney has to the entire LFL archives and racks of screen used pieces to work from. Why purchase something from the outside?

Regards! Michaelson

[backstagejack]

Pretty sure that info is in this post here.

viewtopic.php?t=71828

posted in 2021.....

"While I am allowed to disclose my source, a few months ago a Wested Raider’s jacket was bought on eBay by Pinewood Studios, it stands to reason this jacket may have been used by a possible prototype."

I remember that, but since Disney has its own in-house costume facility, I doubt that sale would factor into the equation, especially since Disney has to the entire LFL archives and racks of screen used pieces to work from. Why purchase something from the outside?

Regards! Michaelson

Very good question, it doesn't make sense does it?

[xmasters]

I remember that, but since Disney has its own in-house costume facility, I doubt that sale would factor into the equation, especially since Disney has to the entire LFL archives and racks of screen used pieces to work from. Why purchase something from the outside?

Regards! Michaelson

Well they obviously did otherwise the jackets in DoD would be closer in accuracy to the trilogy movies, instead OTR Westeds from the 00s.
Wherever you make the movie is where the costumes are made. ( Pinewood Studios is in the UK ). Skull was made in the USA, therefore the costume was all made there. Just follow the logic of the process. One might wonder why the Skull jacket was based on a DIsney parks jacket, instead of an archive jacket.

I think the fact of the matter is that the prestige of who makes the Hats is greater than who makes the jacket. To people who aren't obsessive fans it's just a brown leather jacket based on the A2. If the film makers believe that Wested did make the jackets for the movies, all they had to do was get hold of a wested jacket. Which is pretty easy to do.

[Illinois_Jones]

Well the simplest answer would be deconstruction. The original pieces are in a much more fragile state nowadays and besides, disassembling a piece that is worth considerable sums at auction isn't the smartest move. Costume design and manufacture are very different trades, along with tailoring, etc. It's not at all unusual for costume designers to pull something OTR and use it as the base for the design. And it's clear they didn't want to rehash Tony's design. I could totally imagine Joanna Johnston saying "eff-it, just get one of those and work from there." Especially since she was familiar with it from LC and didn't work on CS.

And the other thing to consider is that pre-production was in the middle of Covid. It may have been simpler to order a Wested size 42 and ship it to Ford and have a Disney tailor/designer meet him in Wyoming and chalk out the necessary adjustments etc, ship it back to the costume team and have them whip up new copies. I have a friend who worked on the Mission Impossible movies through lockdowns etc and it was a nightmare. Much of the costume fitting and stuff had to be done remotely, especially for the supporting cast, because they couldn't gather everybody together during production. Things had to be very much in place by the time you reached set and ready to go without hiccups because there wasn't any room to deal with issues or oversights. It was a logistics nightmare. It's just so much easier to take an example and say "make thirty of this and make these adjustments" than to try to build from scratch.

You have to admit, the body and fit does very much look like a Wested standard albeit seemingly better constructed with thicker thread etc.

[backstagejack]

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And the other thing to consider is that pre-production was in the middle of Covid. It may have been simpler to order a Wested size 42 and ship it to Ford and have a Disney tailor/designer meet him in Wyoming and chalk out the necessary adjustments etc, ship it back to the costume team and have them whip up new copies. I have a friend who worked on the Mission Impossible movies through lockdowns etc and it was a nightmare. Much of the costume fitting and stuff had to be done remotely, especially for the supporting cast, because they couldn't gather everybody together during production. Things had to be very much in place by the time you reached set and ready to go without hiccups because there wasn't any room to deal with issues or oversights. It was a logistics nightmare. It's just so much easier to take an example and say "make thirty of this and make these adjustments" than to try to build from scratch......

Good point, I forgot about covid (I know, forgot about covid!?)