Woohoo getting a 10' Jacka CS Whip!

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:42 am

I have been collecting Indy 4 gear since Nov. 2008 and am trying to stay with products from the actual vendors who made them for the movie. I've for so long wanted the whip from Terry Jacka in AU, but it was a bit out of my price range. Finally one came up for sale in the Bizarre and I'm buying it.

This will be my first whip and I'm getting the cream of the crop.

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=52398

Is there a good DVD for learning how to use an Indy whip?

tomek9210 · Post by **tomek9210** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:37 am

Congrats on getting such a beauty! BTW, why are you selling it Allen?

Check out Adam Winrich's youtube channel. He shows there how to use an Indy bullwhip, and he has maaaany interesting videos. Most, if not every, whip cracking videos available on the market are rather for fancier routines, two handed cracking.
If I was about to buy whip cracking guide on a dvd though, I would go with the 'The Art of the Bullwhip'.

Be sure to check BullwhipBorton's comparison here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42517" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:28 am

You should get Adam Winrich's whip cracking dvd, it's not overpriced at all, and ( dang I really need to get it

) he shows

him teaching a few beginners some basic-moderate cracks, so you can see common mistakes that you'll make when you are first

starting, and avoid them right off the bat.

Lukes Roommate · Post by **Lukes Roommate** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:27 pm

Congrats on the new whip!

I second the vote for Adam's whip videos on YouTube.
I've learned most of my cracks through his work.

My best advice, advice that I learned from many here, is just to take your time and relax.
If you rush, you will make mistakes and you may not realize what is happening.

Practice the arm motions you will need before you ever even pick up the whip (really watch those vids, and I mean over and over again so you know where your arms need to be, what your body needs to do, etc.).

Get comfortable with a relaxed stance.

Once you start with the whip, again, take your time, work it slowly, and do not force the whip.

I spent last summer just working on those things, picking up single cracks as I went along, practicing those cracks until they felt right.
If you can, I would sugest getting someone to film you so you can see what you are doing right and wrong, it really does help.

That's my inherited 2 cents and I hope you enjoy the learning process as it's fun, frustrating, and rewarding all at once!

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:56 pm

Congrats Lantzn,

She's a beauty.

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:15 pm

My first day playing around with a whip ( was a junk one I made ) I got slapped in the face, you can expect this. Don't get too

frustrated.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:32 am

riku1914 wrote:My first day playing around with a whip ( was a junk one I made ) I got slapped in the face, you can expect this. Don't get too

frustrated.

Maybe I should wear one of these?

CatsMeow · Post by **CatsMeow** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:43 am

Hi, first post here

but I wanted to say that’s an incredible whip made by a master whip maker. I’ve cracked an 8 ft and 10ft crystal skull bullwhip and even though they are long and on the heavy side they are very fluid and pack a punch, their very cool.

I also have Adam Winrichs DVD and have met him before in person, He’s very talented but consider Anthony De Longis’s Mastering the bullwhip 1 and 2 DVD first. They cost a lil more you get both videos in the set. I found them to be much more instructional and a lot easier to follow step by step when I first started learning how to crack whips on my own. He is also very good about safety precautions and how not to hit yourself. Plus you would be learning for the man who worked on Indiana Jones with the whip made for him and for that style of whip cracking

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:07 pm

lantzn wrote:
riku1914 wrote:My first day playing around with a whip ( was a junk one I made ) I got slapped in the face, you can expect this. Don't get too

frustrated.
Maybe I should wear one of these?

Couldn't hurt.
Plus it goes great with Todd's TOD machete.

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:43 pm

kwad wrote:
lantzn wrote:
riku1914 wrote:My first day playing around with a whip ( was a junk one I made ) I got slapped in the face, you can expect this. Don't get too

frustrated.
Maybe I should wear one of these?

Couldn't hurt.
Plus it goes great with Todd's TOD machete.

Wear at least a hat and some kind of glasses. I wear glasses so I don't have to worry about that, but make sure you are.

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:44 pm

Glasses are a great idea, especially for beginners.
Remember, it's not a matter of IF you will hit yourself, It's a matter of when!

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:30 pm

Thanks for the advice. I wear glasses and will also wear my construction ones over them.

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:35 pm

lantzn wrote:Thanks for the advice. I wear glasses and will also wear my construction ones over them.

Glasses will be enough, you CAN wear those construction ones , but it would be overkill, though I suppose it might protect your

eyebrows to an extent... However like I said, glasses will be enough, as long as your eyes are good I don't suppose you'll inflict

any major damage upon yourself, just welts here and there, but for a whip to break bone I suppose it would have to be done

intentionally by another person.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:18 am

First whip and you are getting a HOSS!

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:10 pm

lantzn wrote:
Is there a good DVD for learning how to use an Indy whip?

Do what I did, just start playing around w it. Then after a few days it should be pretty natural.

Kyle

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:37 pm

This is what I started with :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnUQEYFt51o

Very easy to follow, and it's the basics you should learn first

The Intercept · Post by **The Intercept** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:29 pm

Not sure id take advice on anything that feels "pretty natural" from a guy wearing a tutu! Bwahahaha

T~I

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:54 pm

lantzn, can we get some pics when you get it?

I'd like to see one of the transition stiffness, when held with the handle pointing up, with the heel knot towards the ground just to

see a reference for how stiff I should make my indy 4 whip.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:56 pm

riku1914 wrote:

lantzn, can we get some pics when you get it?

I'd like to see one of the transition stiffness, when help with the handle pointing up, with the heel knot towards the ground to see

how I should make my indy 4 whip.

Oh I plan on taking many photos.

It's suppose to be here tomorrow.

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:59 pm

Congrats, yet another fellow member I'm now jealous of

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:06 pm

My whip arrived! I can't wait to get home. It took forever to get here because it was lost and the seller had to track it down USPS.

Indiana County Jr. · Post by **Indiana County Jr.** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:54 pm

lantzn wrote:My whip arrived! I can't wait to get home. It took forever to get here because it was lost and the seller had to track it down USPS.

That my friend, was an adventure all to itself....

Allen

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:18 pm

PICS PICS PICS PICS

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:13 pm

riku1914 wrote:PICS PICS PICS PICS

Let me know if these are sufficient.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35223822@N ... 336430900/

Man this sucker is one big monster of a whip! Now I know where the beef went.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:03 am

Nice looking whip, Lantzn. You're gonna love it! It cracks like a beast!

Kyle

fifthchamber · Post by **fifthchamber** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:02 am

I got to use a Jacka Crystal Skull a few weeks back (as well as a DelCarpio 10 foot Raiders and a Joe Strain 8 footer), and I was stunned by the weight of the thing...I bodybuilt way back, and still do Jujutsu and Kendo, and enough weightlifting to KNOW a real "weight", and the Jacka was one GREAT workout....Heavy and with a roll out that I loved...It took work to get it to fly "right", but once you get it it really does feel like you've done "it"....Wonderfully rewarding whip to use I found....

But yeah...Heavy and as thick as my arms...

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:57 am

fifthchamber wrote:
But yeah...Heavy and as thick as my arms...

You have some pretty small arms

Kyle

fifthchamber · Post by **fifthchamber** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:01 am

LOL..

Oi....

I was being metaphorical-ike....

fifthchamber · Post by **fifthchamber** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:03 am

Besides, saying "as heavy and thick as two of my fingers" doesn't really have any impact...LOL

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:05 pm

fifthchamber wrote:Besides, saying "as heavy and thick as two of my fingers" doesn't really have any impact...

Unless you are a proctologist......

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:09 pm

NICE whip

fifthchamber · Post by **fifthchamber** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:56 pm

Unless you are a proctologist......

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww............

Very true though....

Wait....How did the thread get here?

GREAT WHIP!

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:15 pm

Great looking whip!

Indy B · Post by **Indy B** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:19 pm

That is great news. congratulations! You will enjoy it for sure.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:42 pm

Has anyone done the dyeing and distressing to their whip according to what Anthony DeLongis did to them for the movie? I just heard about it and was wondering what you all thought.

Lukes Roommate · Post by **Lukes Roommate** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:14 pm

Great whip!!
Congrats

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:21 pm

lantzn wrote:Has anyone done the dyeing and distressing to their whip according to what Anthony DeLongis did to them for the movie? I just heard about it and was wondering what you all thought.

Please don't do it. It will age on it's own, don't be in a hurry to make it"old" enjoy it's newness while it's here, then enjoy it being

aged.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:02 am

lantzn wrote:Has anyone done the dyeing and distressing to their whip according to what Anthony DeLongis did to them for the movie? I just heard about it and was wondering what you all thought.

I did it to mine the day I got it. It turned out awesome!

Kyle

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:45 am

knibs7 wrote:
lantzn wrote:Has anyone done the dyeing and distressing to their whip according to what Anthony DeLongis did to them for the movie? I just heard about it and was wondering what you all thought.
I did it to mine the day I got it. It turned out awesome!

Kyle

So where are these instructions of DeLongis, I can't seem to find them.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:20 pm

I didn't use any instructions I just did it myself

Kyle

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:02 pm

knibs7 wrote:I didn't use any instructions I just did it myself

Kyle

Did you post pictures? I was told there was info on the site of what he did and how he did it.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:48 pm

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=44657" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kyle

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:21 pm

Hey just to let you know, you should expect it to stay very stiff at the transition, this is just a jacka signature thing, and it's a

very good thing on these short handled whips. So I would suggest you don't try to make it looser by throwing it harder, and

especially please don't try to bend it with your hands, this isn't a good thing for the whip,

On the SA thing, you can just give it all a good coat a leather dressing and let it sit in the sun some, the knots will darken, some,

then the rest you can darken just by use, the heel knot that you hold will darken from the oils in your hands, so you can expect

that to be SA

edit: if you're just talking about dying the knots darker ( or even black ) then go ahead. What I was saying about the other

"aging" thing is like, kind of what dusty does on his Streets of Cairo whips ( CreasenCorral ) I know he wants it to be modeled

after a certain scene, but I don't like doing this to whips, but as far as making the knots darker, I personally would have no

problems with it, as for the somewhat "fading" of the whip, that will look BEST if you let it do so naturally, at least that is what

I have seen on my own leather whip, and what I have seen on other people's whips.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:22 pm

Well I took my whip out for a first practice, ever with a whip, and after some time started to get the hang of it to make it crack! What a blast, and I only smacked myself twice when the whip would swing back around and got me on the return. I'm learning fast on not what to do.

Wow does your arm burn after awhile, its like a workout.

So Kyle what did you use to darken the knobs on yours?

riku1914 · Post by **riku1914** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:45 pm

lantzn wrote:Well I took my whip out for a first practice, ever with a whip, and after some time started to get the hang of it to make it crack! What a blast, and I only smacked myself twice when the whip would swing back around and got me on the return. I'm learning fast on not what to do. Wow does your arm burn after awhile, its like a workout.

So Kyle what did you use to darken the knobs on yours?

In all likelyhood, just some very dark brown ( or black ) leather dye.

Do you have a video, or are you just trying to figure it out on your own? I suggest you check out Adam Winrich's youtube channel,

start with the cattlemans & overhead crack, then go into the flicks. Also you might want to check out the video he sells on his

website, it's very reasonably priced, I still have no idea why I don't have it yet, he says that on it, he teaches 3 beginners some

of the basics, and why is this good for the newbie? You can see common mistakes people do, so you can get past them quicker.

I can't wait to hear more from you, I hope you keep enjoying whip cracking, my first was with a crappy whip consisting of

cheap hobby lobby leather and duct tape, but I still loved it, didn't know anything better

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:06 pm

Just came in from practice day 2. Wow you really can work up a sweat with one throw after another. I'm working on the overhand throw, if that's what its called. I'm switching from right to left hand and back again as my arm tires and go until I can't. On my second day I'm getting pretty consistent at cracking on the right and off and on with the left. I'm right handed so thats not surprising. There's a definite feel to it in the wrist. Sort of a quick stop and then the whip just starts to roll upon itself and makes that crack. Awesome really. The people driving by have HUGE smiles on their faces.
One good thing I didn't hit myself today and was doing a lot more throws.

Yeah I need to watch some videos.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:02 pm

lantzn wrote:
So Kyle what did you use to darken the knobs on yours?

Fiebings dye in dark brown

Kyle

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:07 pm

riku1914 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:21 pm
lantzn wrote:Has anyone done the dyeing and distressing to their whip according to what Anthony DeLongis did to them for the movie? I just heard about it and was wondering what you all thought.
Please don't do it. It will age on it's own, don't be in a hurry to make it"old" enjoy it's newness while it's here, then enjoy it being aged.

I never did dye the knots. I think it aged nicely.

2022 Without flash.

2022 With flash.

2011 The color when I first bought it.

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:51 pm

Looks fantastic!

bearbeast · Post by **bearbeast** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:53 pm

Wow, it looks great! And also... thick. Seems like a nice heavy whip!