Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?

Hedji · Post by **Hedji** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:19 pm

Nice looking hat! Suits you very well.
What does SOC stand for?

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:47 pm

SOC stands for Streets of Cairo. Also the hat suits you Croft.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:19 pm

Thanks guys, its been a go to lid for quite awhile.
Can’t wait to see your ABL KOTCS

Croft

Indiana_Nate · Post by **Indiana_Nate** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:45 pm

Hedji wrote:
Indiana_Nate wrote:Brace yourself Castor, #3 is ordered, and I am now anxiously awaiting those first creation pics from Michelle. Poetic indeed, my friend, poetic indeed! I spent the better part of the day yesterday corresponding with Michelle on how I want it to look. Something about ordering a new hat makes me giddy as a schoolboy.

Here are some links to my hats as well:

Raiders Poet
https://www.instagram.com/p/B40EeWDpqC-/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5p5eD2JH_8/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clipper Poet
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7oCvQZpBRM/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9REDqqpI-9/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hi Indiana Nate.. I've been in touch with Michelle... I'm having difficulty deciding on sable or deep sable. Which is the color of your Raiders poet?

Hedji,

Please accept my sincerest apologies for not answering your question until now!

My Raiders is the original Sable, and my LC is the Deep Sable. Michelle had not yet begun to offer the Raiders in the deep sable when I ordered mine, so I do not envy your decision!!! I’ve seen a negative opinion or two voiced here on the tone of the original sable, but I love it. The contrast between the color of the felt and the ribbon is magnificent, in my humble option. With that said, the richness of the color of the deep sable is so luxurious looking. If I could go back in time and actually have the choice, I wouldn’t change a thing. “In Michelle I trust”

Hedji · Post by **Hedji** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:05 am

No worries, and thanks for the reply.

I would love to know more about the 40th anniversary Raiders they are offering this year. Might make my decision easier.

I feel like no matter what I decide, I will question my choice.

jlee562 · Post by **jlee562** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:02 pm

I'd be lying if I didn't have a little sense of FOMO upon hearing just the tease of an anniversary model. And some days I think I could have waited for dark sable beaver. But I'm really satisfied with my Poet, which is to say, I don't think there's a wrong choice!

drftfan · Post by **drftfan** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:28 am

I have plans to pick up the 40th anniversary along with a crusade this year. Their hats are expensive of course but I have no doubt I will be happy once my first one gets here this month.
Michelle’s customer service has been been pretty great and she really seems to care about making a good product.

Indiana_Nate · Post by **Indiana_Nate** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

Anytime, Hedji! I’m still waiting on my ABL CS, so the last thing I need is another hat, but I don’t know if I have the willpower to pass up a 40th anniversary HJ. This is the first I’m hearing of it. I may have to contact Michelle and see if she’ll give me any info

Hedji · Post by **Hedji** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:19 pm

Yeah, she’s really terrific, isn’t she? The kind of attention she gives you makes you feel like a too priority, and I’m sure she has dozens of customer emails a day. I sure hope everyone at Herbert Johnson is doing well during the current Covid lockdown.

I’m considering many options, but I will definitely own a HJ, it’s just a matter of which one. That 40th Anniversary announcement really is appealing as a collector.

drftfan · Post by **drftfan** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:30 pm

I am not sure if the lockdown is affecting them much. I believe I read Michelle set up a workshop in her home.

IndianaJustin · Post by **IndianaJustin** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:34 pm

Has 40th anniversary model been released or teased or.... Perhaps I missed the info and I can't find it on their website. I'm sure I'm missing something.

drftfan · Post by **drftfan** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:58 pm

Pretty sure it has not been released.

Indiana_Nate · Post by **Indiana_Nate** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:53 pm

I'm pretty sure that there hasn't been a post from me where I haven't praised Michelle.

I'm fairly certain that her workshop is at/near her home, because all of her photos from the shop have remained consistent, even pre-COVID. My LC Poet was ordered during the heart of the pandemic last year and arrived just as quickly as those ordered prior. If anything, I think that the delays are now stemming from the felt suppliers. drftfan, make sure to post some pics of that beauty when she arrives!

I haven't had a chance to reach out to Michelle, but I follow HJ pretty closely on social media and I have not seen any mention of an anniversary Poet. Last big news I saw was the introduction of the Temple Poet, which I now want in order to round out my HJ hat trilogy. It may have to go on the back burner through if a Raiders anniversary is coming.

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:11 pm

Here is the announcement from day 19 of their advent calendar on instagram.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:14 pm

Well color me interested.

This may seem odd, I have a web site to HJ, but I have no idea if it’s the same one that the rest of you have.
And I don’t want to miss this.
And no I don’t Facebook or Instagram.

Croft

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:01 pm

This wasn’t on the website, but don’t worry, we’ll keep you and everyone else updated on more info when it releases.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:10 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:Well color me interested.

This may seem odd, I have a web site to HJ, but I have no idea if it’s the same one that the rest of you have.
And I don’t want to miss this.
And no I don’t Facebook or Instagram.

Croft

You should. The Indygear FB page gets a LOT of traffic!

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana_Nate · Post by **Indiana_Nate** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:59 pm

IJJTM wrote:

Here is the announcement from day 19 of their advent calendar on instagram.

Good catch IJJTM! Can’t wait for more info on this. Something tells me that it’s going to be an expensive year for IndyGear fans...

https://herbertjohnson.co.uk/ is the best direct link.

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:45 am

IJJTM wrote:This wasn’t on the website, but don’t worry, we’ll keep you and everyone else updated on more info when it releases.

That's good news! I'm not on facebook either and I don't want to miss this!

Indiana_Nate · Post by **Indiana_Nate** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:41 pm

Still no word on the release date for the Raiders Anniversary Poet. It is my understanding that some unforeseen circumstances, most likely COVID and Brexit, that are holding things up.

Forrest For the Trees · Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:30 pm

It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.

Indiana_Nate · Post by **Indiana_Nate** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:42 pm

Forrest For the Trees wrote:It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.

Makes sense. I read that’s what they were doing for the 4K release of the films as well.

tubasthebest · Post by **tubasthebest** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:30 pm

Looks like June might be an expensive month! I better start saving now.

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:50 pm

They told me on Instagram that their "campaign will launch on the run up to spring 2021 and the 40th Anniversary."

jgino · Post by **jgino** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:39 am

Anyone have updates regarding the 40th anniversary HJ?

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:12 pm

Not really, but HJ started to post more on their socials, so maybe they’ll reveal it soon, who knows.

thecoolmiester · Post by **thecoolmiester** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:01 pm

Here is my HJ being shaped after some pics I sent of the Indy HJ that sold for 500k in 2015.

Looking spot on

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IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:07 pm

That looks very nice, thank you for sharing. Do we know what scenes the hat at the auction was used in?

jlee562 · Post by **jlee562** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:54 pm

IJJTM wrote:That looks very nice, thank you for sharing. Do we know what scenes the hat at the auction was used in?

The Prop Store hat is the Streets of Cairo hat, also seen in other parts of the Tunisia shoot.

They still have a page up with the listing and screencaps: https://propstore.com/mobile/product/in ... re-fedora/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:14 pm

Ahh, saying 2015 confused me. I was lucky enough to see it when they brought it to SDCC, sadly I wasn’t as into Indy back then as I am now.

thecoolmiester · Post by **thecoolmiester** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:36 pm

Once I get this puppy in the mail I may make some minor tweaks depending on what it looks like on my head. Otherwise looks heinie

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thecoolmiester · Post by **thecoolmiester** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:37 pm

Here is the hat completed before they send it to me. Looks good! Will probably make minor tweaks once I see it on my head.

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IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:38 pm

Looks fantastic, that’s normal sable correct?

thecoolmiester · Post by **thecoolmiester** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:48 pm

IJJTM wrote:Looks fantastic, that’s normal sable correct?

Yes! I went with the lighter option.

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IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:53 am

No news on the 40th anniversary yet, but HJ just announced they will be reopening the store on April 12th.

tubasthebest · Post by **tubasthebest** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:37 pm

That is great news! Where did you find it though? I checked their website and public social pages and haven't found anything.

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:15 pm

At the bottom of their hats of today posts on Facebook and Instagram. I’ll have to stop by their shop. Hopefully my families European vacation doesn’t get postponed again.

tubasthebest · Post by **tubasthebest** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:23 pm

Oh there it is, thank you!

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:59 pm

No problem, they hide good stuff in small text.

Mfisher · Post by **Mfisher** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:48 pm

I am somewhat curious about the value of the HJ... I picked one up years and years ago from Magnoli - So it was a HJ fedora that was then sent off to Steve Delk who worked his magic on it. It has been sitting in a glass display cabinet all these years and I may let it go.. but the only one I have seen on ebay was in lousy shape.. Any speculation as to what it may be worth ?

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:06 pm

I wouldn’t know for sure, but considering Magnoli hasn’t sold those for a while, I would probably do an auction starting at the price you bought it.

WarmWaves · Post by **WarmWaves** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:34 pm

Forrest For the Trees wrote:It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.

I actually spoke to Michelle earlier this week about an order I'm placing and asked about this. They are shooting for a June release but it's all contingent on if they can secure the materials they need in time. So right now it's a tentative release date.

She said the hat will be a Cairo styled rabbit Poet, unweathered with a new edition liner and interior elements.

Hope this helps!

On another note, I'm in the middle of ordering a Deep Sable Raiders Poet from them and I'm on the fence between having them put in the turn. Michelle said the best thing to do is get it open crown and do it myself but I honestly don't trust myself with that. She said she could put the turn in for me and now I'm second guessing it. I'm wondering if I should go no turn and then, if I feel confident later on, put the turn in myself. Any thoughts on this?

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:57 pm

WarmWaves wrote:
Forrest For the Trees wrote:It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.
I actually spoke to Michelle earlier this week about an order I'm placing and asked about this. They are shooting for a June release but it's all contingent on if they can secure the materials they need in time. So right now it's a tentative release date.

She said the hat will be a Cairo styled rabbit Poet, unweathered with a new edition liner and interior elements.

Hope this helps!

On another note, I'm in the middle of ordering a Deep Sable Raiders Poet from them and I'm on the fence between having them put in the turn. Michelle said the best thing to do is get it open crown and do it myself but I honestly don't trust myself with that. She said she could put the turn in for me and now I'm second guessing it. I'm wondering if I should go no turn and then, if I feel confident later on, put the turn in myself. Any thoughts on this?

Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.

Jack

WarmWaves · Post by **WarmWaves** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:05 pm

eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.

Jack

Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:26 pm

There are some nice videos out there that show how to do it, like on Penman’s Facebook. Also, any idea what price the 40th anniversary will be?

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:42 pm

WarmWaves wrote:
eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.

Jack

Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.

The turn is basically to make the brim warp the way it looks in a lot of scenes from RAIDERS. It would be no problem for HJ to style correctly, but whether or not you like the resulting look when you wear the hat will come down to personal taste, not HJ's ability to style the turn. You could ask for just a slight turn if you're concerned that the warping would be too drastic for your taste.

Jack

Ranger36 · Post by **Ranger36** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:10 pm

eazybox wrote:
WarmWaves wrote:
eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.

Jack

Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.
The turn is basically to make the brim warp the way it looks in a lot of scenes from RAIDERS. It would be no problem for HJ to style correctly, but whether or not you like the resulting look when you wear the hat will come down to personal taste, not HJ's ability to style the turn. You could ask for just a slight turn if you're concerned that the warping would be too drastic for your taste.

Jack

A slight turn is what I opted for as the warping can sometimes be overstated in recreations I think. The slight turn looks fantastic in real-life and I'm very pleased. This reminds me I need to get some photos up to show off the new hat.

WarmWaves · Post by **WarmWaves** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:41 pm

Ranger36 wrote:
eazybox wrote:
WarmWaves wrote:
eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.

Jack

Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.
The turn is basically to make the brim warp the way it looks in a lot of scenes from RAIDERS. It would be no problem for HJ to style correctly, but whether or not you like the resulting look when you wear the hat will come down to personal taste, not HJ's ability to style the turn. You could ask for just a slight turn if you're concerned that the warping would be too drastic for your taste.

Jack
A slight turn is what I opted for as the warping can sometimes be overstated in recreations I think. The slight turn looks fantastic in real-life and I'm very pleased. This reminds me I need to get some photos up to show off the new hat.

Yes please do!

WarmWaves · Post by **WarmWaves** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:42 pm

IJJTM wrote:There are some nice videos out there that show how to do it, like on Penman’s Facebook. Also, any idea what price the 40th anniversary will be?

Whoops sorry, I missed this! Unfortunately no, I didn't ask her because I decided to get mine done now.

IJJTM · Post by **IJJTM** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:00 am

Aye aye, thanks anyway for the update, I appreciate it.