Bill Kelso's Relic Hunter

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:28 pm

Is anyone able to weigh these new lamb jackets for me ? I may be tempted to et my 5th Relic Hunter

senorjacob · Post by **senorjacob** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:52 am

My wested Hero in NZ lamb weighs 1.1 kg (2.4 lbs). It’s a size 36 with 23.5 back length and sleeves.

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:29 am

Thanks, sorry meant the new BK ones

Frederick · Post by **Frederick** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:56 pm

CRB wrote:Is anyone able to weigh these new lamb jackets for me ? I may be tempted to et my 5th Relic Hunter

My BK weighs 956grams. Compared to the Wested which is 1165grams there's just over 200 grams of difference but you notice it. Both size 38's.

afalzon · Post by **afalzon** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:51 am

Thanks for the nice review.

Regarding the color, I would like to say that we went for the color we see in the public stills and behind the scenes footage as thought that this would be less edited and therefore closer to the real thing.

Please take a look at this comparison.

Also, I hope we all agree that in a dimly lit room the jacket would appear darker than what it is in broad daylight.
Yet, in the idol grab scene the film jacket appear lighter than Wested's both the in the Flashed Light and Natural (indirect) daylight shots above.

With this opportunity, I would like to apologize to our friends who are waiting for their jackets. The new leathers are in production and we expect to receive them soon.

Kind regards,
AF

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:24 pm

Thanks for the comparison shots, Andy. IMO, the color you guys chose is a nice average of all the well-lit shots, and looks right in a half-lit room.

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:27 pm

Frederick wrote:
CRB wrote:Is anyone able to weigh these new lamb jackets for me ? I may be tempted to et my 5th Relic Hunter
My BK weighs 956grams. Compared to the Wested which is 1165grams there's just over 200 grams of difference but you notice it. Both size 38's.

Thanks for that - My size 40 lamb weighs 1.2Kg but that was from the initial first run that was a slightly thicker/heavier leather. Tempted to sell it and get an even lighter one for travel.

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:55 pm

Frederick wrote:
CRB wrote:Is anyone able to weigh these new lamb jackets for me ? I may be tempted to et my 5th Relic Hunter
My BK weighs 956grams. Compared to the Wested which is 1165grams there's just over 200 grams of difference but you notice it. Both size 38's.

How'd that happen? My Wested Hero's a 42, while my BK's a 44, and the BK is STILL a tighter (read: better) fit than the Wested.

xmasters · Post by **xmasters** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:57 am

Striated lamb is stretched, hence thinner, hence lighter.

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:09 am

My jacket is striated lamb too. Andy's already confirmed that the original batch was a tad heavier.

afalzon · Post by **afalzon** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:14 am

Striated lamb is stretched, hence thinner, hence lighter.

not correct

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:04 am

Measurements for a off the rack size 46 anyone ?

afalzon · Post by **afalzon** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:38 am

pit to pit 25.5
shoulders 22.25
back 24.5
sleeve 26.25

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:52 am

afalzon wrote:pit to pit 25.5
shoulders 22.25
back 24.5
sleeve 26.25

Thanks , looks like I would need a custom , I need at least 27.5 back.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:44 pm

Blackadder wrote: Thanks , looks like I would need a custom , I need at least 27.5 back.

Remember that the jacket hangs off the shoulders too so it adds about an inch.
The jacket is a short style jacket, at 27.5 its going to cover your backend unless you're really tall. That's really long man.
I'm 6ft exactly and 23" hits my at the right spot for daily wear plus matching the film.

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:55 pm

TheExit148 wrote:
Blackadder wrote: Thanks , looks like I would need a custom , I need at least 27.5 back.
Remember that the jacket hangs off the shoulders too so it adds about an inch.
The jacket is a short style jacket, at 27.5 its going to cover your backend unless you're really tall. That's really long man.
I'm 6ft exactly and 23" hits my at the right spot for daily wear plus matching the film.

I am 6 3" got wested LC in size 44 which is 27.5 inch in back length, I could even use a half inch longer on that one.

Glenville86 · Post by **Glenville86** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:57 pm

Yeah - my first BK was ordered using another Raiders jacket and my normal back length of 28 inches was way too long. My other BK orders were a 26.5 back and as long as the Wested 28 inch back jackets. I could have gotten away with a 26 inch back but wear modern jeans that sit lower.

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:02 pm

So Kelsos 26.5 inch is westeds 28 inch, wow.

tomek9210 · Post by **tomek9210** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:38 pm

I'm 191 cm (6ft 3in) tall and my Wested Hero is 24,5in long in the back and it is perfect length for Raiders jacket.

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:00 pm

I'm 6 ft even and my Kelso has a 25.5" back length. [shrugs] It isn't about height - it's about how much of that height is torso.

Glenville86 · Post by **Glenville86** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:57 pm

Blackadder wrote:So Kelsos 26.5 inch is westeds 28 inch, wow.

For me that is how they compared. For my Wested Hero, I ordered an inch shorter (26) in the sleeve and 1 1/2 inch shorter in the back.

The BK and Wested Hero do not fit like an OTR Wested.

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:44 am

Glenville86 wrote:
Blackadder wrote:So Kelsos 26.5 inch is westeds 28 inch, wow.
For me that is how they compared. For my Wested Hero, I ordered an inch shorter (26) in the sleeve and 1 1/2 inch shorter in the back.

The BK and Wested Hero do not fit like an OTR Wested.

If its not a problem, could you measure the length of BK 26.5 back in cm ? From the collar edge to the bottom ? My wested is nearly 70 cm in the back.

Glenville86 · Post by **Glenville86** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:23 am

Blackadder wrote:
Glenville86 wrote:
Blackadder wrote:So Kelsos 26.5 inch is westeds 28 inch, wow.
For me that is how they compared. For my Wested Hero, I ordered an inch shorter (26) in the sleeve and 1 1/2 inch shorter in the back.

The BK and Wested Hero do not fit like an OTR Wested.
If its not a problem, could you measure the length of BK 26.5 back in cm ? From the collar edge to the bottom ? My wested is nearly 70 cm in the back.

BK is around 68cm. My Wested in a 28 inch back is around 69.5cm. So close, you would have to measure to see the difference.

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:04 am

Glenville86 wrote:
Blackadder wrote:
Glenville86 wrote:
Blackadder wrote:So Kelsos 26.5 inch is westeds 28 inch, wow.
For me that is how they compared. For my Wested Hero, I ordered an inch shorter (26) in the sleeve and 1 1/2 inch shorter in the back.

The BK and Wested Hero do not fit like an OTR Wested.
If its not a problem, could you measure the length of BK 26.5 back in cm ? From the collar edge to the bottom ? My wested is nearly 70 cm in the back.
BK is around 68cm. My Wested in a 28 inch back is around 69.5cm. So close, you would have to measure to see the difference.

Thx so I should go maybe 27 on bk.

Glenville86 · Post by **Glenville86** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:27 pm

I think a 27 would be the way to go for you.

Kladdagh · Post by **Kladdagh** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:51 am

What a nice jacket ... Thanks for the pics

Screencapped · Post by **Screencapped** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:43 pm

Here's my second hand Relic Hunter in striated lamb. My most favorite jacket I've ever owned.

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TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:11 pm

This looks really good! Is this the Cairo version or Hawaii?

Screencapped · Post by **Screencapped** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:43 pm

TheExit148 wrote:This looks really good! Is this the Cairo version or Hawaii?

Cairo/hero model. Though I'm no jacket expert I believe the rounded collar is the main difference.

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Frederick · Post by **Frederick** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:33 pm

Awesome fit, great hat too btw! Sporting the gear well... has the jacket had any subsequent treatment since the original purchase?

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:49 pm

Looks great on you! BK sure knows how to make 'em!

Charybdis · Post by **Charybdis** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:11 am

They should cast YOU for the reboot Indy!! Looking great!!

Forrest For the Trees · Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:36 pm

Nice jacket, Screencapped.

Finally got a new photo-hosting service. It is called cubeupload if anyone still needs one. Totally free and easy to use. Anyway, here are the photos of my Kelso Relic Hunter that I posted a while back but photobucket cut the link to them.

Screencapped · Post by **Screencapped** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:51 pm

Frederick wrote:Awesome fit, great hat too btw! Sporting the gear well... has the jacket had any subsequent treatment since the original purchase?

Thanks. All I've done to it so far is give it a bath.

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Screencapped · Post by **Screencapped** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:56 pm

Charybdis wrote:They should cast YOU for the reboot Indy!! Looking great!!

Agreed 100%!
I'm afraid after multiple knee surgeries and a looming back surgery I'd need a stuntman for any scene that called for Indy to walk.

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Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:43 pm

Screencapped wrote:Here's my second hand Relic Hunter in striated lamb. My most favorite jacket I've ever owned.

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Beautiful jacket bud!!!

Can you take a few close up pics of the striations?

afalzon · Post by **afalzon** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:19 am

nice photos Screencapped !!!!!

to all our friends waiting for jackets understand from the tannery that the new batch of striated NZ lambskin will ship next week so should be here shortly...

Screencapped · Post by **Screencapped** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:51 pm

Tennessee Smith wrote:
Screencapped wrote:Here's my second hand Relic Hunter in striated lamb. My most favorite jacket I've ever owned.

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Beautiful jacket bud!!!

Can you take a few close up pics of the striations?

Here ya go Erin...

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Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:58 am

Anyone got an info how much inch does a long version add from the standard size ?

Glenville86 · Post by **Glenville86** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:20 pm

Just checking if anyone has experience with the Relic Hunter in cowhide?

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:18 pm

I have a one off special made for me in thin brown cowhide. It's fantastic.

Glenville86 · Post by **Glenville86** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:30 pm

CRB wrote:I have a one off special made for me in thin brown cowhide. It's fantastic.

Thanks - see it as an option and was wondering if it was thin or regular weight.

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:41 pm

About the same as my lamb weight I'd say but tougher. I have a first run lamb that was heavier than the repeat runs.

distantpeople · Post by **distantpeople** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:36 pm

Random question: do we know what may have been written / stamped /typed onto any of the screen used Raiders jacket Bermans' tags (see LC tweed suit tag reference below)

Photoss · Post by **Photoss** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:32 pm

Well I couldn't stay well enough away, and decided to get another goatskin relic hunter.

I really loved the one I bought back in 2016 (as seen on pages 16 and 17), but it was just too small. I haven't stopped thinking about it though, and decided it was time to get an outdoor use jacket for actual 'adventuring' (i.e. camping, fighting nazis, taking middle schoolers on field trips, etc.). Since I already have a screen accurate jacket with my S&J, I went with goatskin again. Any thoughts on the current turn-around time? And has anyone else bought one in goat recently?

distantpeople · Post by **distantpeople** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:13 pm

Anyone happen to have the standard off the rack 44R measurements? Thanks a lot!

distantpeople · Post by **distantpeople** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:55 pm

distantpeople wrote:Anyone happen to have the standard off the rack 44R measurements? Thanks a lot!

Andy sent them:
pit to pit 24.5
shoulders 21.5
back 24
sleeve 26

Anyone have a Relic Hunter in cow hide seal and want to post a photo? Thanks a million.

senorjacob · Post by **senorjacob** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Okay. So I’ve finally decided to get a Relic Hunter (Cairo collar, striated lamb, authentic brown) and I need help on sizing. I've learned a lot from this forum as I’ve gone from magnoli to wested to wested (again), and I really want to dial in this new jacket. I understand the Bk is a step up and I want to get it right. Any advice or help would be much appreciated.

I’m 5’6”, 36 chest, 16” shoulders, and 18" pit-to-pit. Andy sent me the measurements for a 36R, which I think would work for me.

36R:
pit to pit 20.5
shoulders 18.5
back 22
sleeve 24.5

I currently wear a Wested Hero size 36, with 23.5” sleeves and 23.5” back. The shoulders are 19.5" and pit to pit is 19". After wearing this jacket for 4 months I feel like the shoulder overhang is a bit too much and the back length could be even shorter. So I'm thinking that the BK 36R standard measurements without any changes might work out. Please check my thought process:

- My shoulders are 16" so the BK overhang would be 1.25" on either side vs my Wested which is 1.75" on either side. So that's 1/2" shorter so there's still overhang just not as much.

- The sleeves of the BK would be 1" longer than my Wested, but given the smaller shoulder overhang, the net difference would be that the sleeves would be 1/2" shorter. If that ended up being a problem, I could always have the sleeves shortened by my tailor.

- The back length of my Wested is 23.5" but it feels like there's still room to go shorter, so maybe the BK 22" is closer to being SA.

I've asked Andy what the measurements for the 38R are just for comparison but he hasn't responded. I sent a second email and he still hasn't responded so I figure maybe he's on vacation. I don't want to send him a million emails so I'm hoping you guys can help me dial it in. (I'll PM him as well on COW).

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions. Here are a couple of pics of me wearing my wested for reference:

Forrest For the Trees · Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:16 pm

Those measurements look good for you, but I would increase the back length to 23 inches. Otherwise, you should be good to go.

distantpeople · Post by **distantpeople** » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:13 pm

So what would you do if you wanted a non-lamb or goat Relic Hunter?

1) order a chromium-tanned Cowhide Dark Seal from the sort of grainy most recent batch (illustrated below)
or
2) wait for vegetable-tanned Horsehide Liberty Seal to be restocked in two or three months
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