Removing the lining...

[kozmoedave]

So, I'm the guy that just ordered his first Fed IV a few posts ago. Haven't received it yet, but I'm seeing a lot of comments regarding removing the lining for various reasons. Could folks chime in with the pros, cons, and reasons for doing so? I've never owned a "real" hat before. Thanks in advance.

[Jeremiah]

I can certainly see why some take the lining out. Living in FL, I have certainly thought of it. Here is why I did not. As stated elsewhere, I wear my hats almost everyday. Some days longer than others. I have wore one while golfing once.

My liners get quite oily and stained from sweat and my hair. Now, your hair may be different but mine tends to get oily at the end of a day. So I thought I would rather have a small barrier between that hair and the fine fur felt.

Now if it's not a beaver fur hat and you don't care about how the top looks then I do believe it would make the hat cooler to wear. No pun intended there.

[Indiana Jeff]

Echo what Jeremiah has said. Removing the liner can help the hat be less hot to wear, but the liner is there to protect the felt from sweat and oils.


Regards,

Indiana Jeff

[Michaelson]

I know I'm the one who triggered this question in a related post. Sorry about that.

For what it's worth, I've removed the lining from two of my AB beaver 'summer weight' fedoras for decades, wearing them in the hot, humid summer heat of South Central-Tennessee, and to date I've not stained either hat with perspiration, and they've been in my possession and use since 2005. That's what the sweat band is for.

That said, though, I do it to reduce a lot of the held heat inside the hat, as has been posted above. It also depends on the material used as lining. Some of the makers use what's referred to as 'wedding silk', which is really elegant, but holds heat something awful. Some even hat a plastic cap that absolutely melts my brain pan when I wear the hat in temperatures above 70 degrees F!

Linings can be removed, and re-inserted when needed, so if you decide to pull the lining out, hang onto it should you decide to reverse the process.

If you're talking about Akubra, they glue their linings in rather than sew them in, so be careful pulling it out if you go that route...at least they USED to glue them in. I haven't handled one for a while, though.

Like I said in the other thread, it's not for everyone. I even used a leather awl and punched vent holes in the side of the crowns of the two aforementioned hats for even more air movement like they used to do in Western worn hats. Stetson, among other hat makers, even sold hats with pre-drilled vent holes back in the 20's through 50's.

I use my hats as tools....items of clothing to keep my head cool in summer, warm in winter, the sun and rain/snow off my head, and if they look stylish while doing it, good for me. I'm at the age I honestly don't care. I want to be comfortable, so anything I've said above should be taken with that caution. It may not work out for you, and that's just fine. I wore hats for years with the linings installed and did just fine.

This being your first, I'd leave it 'as is', and see how it works out for you. You may not WANT to do anything to it. You're just starting on this road. Get the feel of wearing one as it comes out of the box for a while before doing anything as drastic as what I'm doing. That's my advice.

In my case I didn't come to this conclusion until I realized I desired more function over form as I've gotten older, and that's just the way I roll now.

Regard! Michaelson

[kozmoedave]

Thanks for the replies and info. That's good advice, Michaelson. I'm not one who sweats all that much, but I do have oily skin. This being my first, I will leave it as is, at least for now. Who knows, if this is just the first of many, this could be the one I end up experimenting with.

[Michaelson]

[mcmanm]

Have a couple of Fed IVs and took out the linings only to remove the plastic. I put them back in and take out depending on the temperature.