Period Indy jacket

backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:53 am

If you were to put Indy in a period accurate jacket what would it be?

An A2 in goat or horsehide? Levi's 1930's sheepskin (ala Skyfall Bond) ? Something with a halfbelt?

pics?

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:46 am

Well, seeing at the A-2 wasn't adopted until the 1940's I suppose Indy could have worn an A-1 (reasonably small distinction, I know, but aren't we all about small distinctions here

).

Indy served in WW1 and with the more common use of the jacket type by civilian aviators I could easily see him continuing to wear a barn storming jacket.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Carolina Tom · Post by **Carolina Tom** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:26 am

1930's half belt!

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:49 pm

Indiana Jeff wrote:Well, seeing at the A-2 wasn't adopted until the 1940's I suppose Indy could have worn an A-1 (reasonably small distinction, I know, but aren't we all about small distinctions here ).

Indy served in WW1 and with the more common use of the jacket type by civilian aviators I could easily see him continuing to wear a barn storming jacket.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

The A-2 was in use in the service in the 1930s. It was originally spec'd in 1931. That said, if you're adventuring and travelling in the elements, wool knits are probably not the way to go. A barnstormer style makes sense, possibly a half-belt.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:12 pm

Well, if anyone is interested in a barnstormer-ish jacket, I just got one off auction and it's just not for me. I like the short Indy-length jackets too much.

Here it is:

It's a size 40-42 (back is about 29", sleeves just around 23-24") and I'm quite willing to let it go, just PM me.

DiCatania · Post by **DiCatania** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:43 pm

That is a very nice jacket

I too wouldn't mind a half belt. I think wested sells one with a very thick sheep fur inside it.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:55 pm

Thanks, this one is alpaca lined and it's really nice leather, already broken in. Which is why I liked/bought it.

The style just isn't for me.

DiCatania · Post by **DiCatania** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:01 pm

I understand. The jacket is an extension of you and if you don't like the style, it just isn't gong to work.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:28 pm

DiCatania wrote:I understand. The jacket is an extension of you and if you don't like the style, it just isn't gong to work.

Exactly!

ron521 · Post by **ron521** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:18 am

Schott had developed the Perfecto jacket for motorcyclists in 1928, and a lot of pilots probably wore them too since the same features which made it a practical choice for a motorcycle would have worked in an airplane. Black leather motorcycle jackets were very commonly worn by even by police officers in the 30's and 40's, and didn't have a bad reputation until the movie "The Wild One" of the 1950's.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:15 pm

The best period piece jacket I've ever seen is Hollowpond's Half Belt. That screams Indy to me and if they ever reboot the franchise and move away from his jacket I hope they consider that one for its accuracy with the period. Granted I don't want it to change I could live with that one... Sorry I went off topic there. Just had to get that out of my system

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:00 pm

Thanks man! I love that dang thing. Not really SA to anything and especially not IJ, but it really feels like I'm my own "adventurer" when I wear it...

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:05 am

Hollowpond wrote:Thanks man! I love that dang thing. Not really SA to anything and especially not IJ, but it really feels like I'm my own "adventurer" when I wear it...

Show us the jacket!

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Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:51 am

Pictures of it right here.

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f ... 83#p852983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

CM · Post by CM » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:19 am

backstagejack wrote:If you were to put Indy in a period accurate jacket what would it be?

An A2 in goat or horsehide? Levi's 1930's sheepskin (ala Skyfall Bond) ? Something with a halfbelt?

pics?

A thread about this seems to surface every few months.

For 1930's Indy an A1. For a 1940's plus Indy an A2. A2's date from 1937. A half-belt would be nice but an A1, the classic adventurer's jacket was created in the 1920's and was the precursor to the A2, was made of light capeskin (sheep) so would "work better" in the desert.

Hollowpond's Californian copy looks period accurate to the late 1940's. A very nice item.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:50 pm

Indiana Jeff wrote:Pictures of it right here.

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f ... 83#p852983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Thanks Jeff!

And ok now I remember that jacket. Looks great!

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Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:34 pm

I need to put new ones up. It's been broken in from all the wear it got this winter and it just gained character. It looks even better!

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:52 pm

Hollowpond wrote:I need to put new ones up. It's been broken in from all the wear it got this winter and it just gained character. It looks even better!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:55 pm

You want picks? Here ya go.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:14 pm

Oooh!!!! Colors!!!!!!!! $\:D/$ $\:D/$ $\:D/$

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:40 pm

Here's a pick...

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:23 pm

CM wrote:
backstagejack wrote:If you were to put Indy in a period accurate jacket what would it be?

An A2 in goat or horsehide? Levi's 1930's sheepskin (ala Skyfall Bond) ? Something with a halfbelt?

pics?
A thread about this seems to surface every few months.

For 1930's Indy an A1. For a 1940's plus Indy an A2. A2's date from 1937. A half-belt would be nice but an A1, the classic adventurer's jacket was created in the 1920's and was the precursor to the A2, was made of light capeskin (sheep) so would "work better" in the desert.

Hollowpond's Californian copy looks period accurate to the late 1940's. A very nice item.

Again, just to keep the record straight, the first A-2 contract (32-485) was from 1931/1932 and filled by Security Aviation Togs of Chicago. Werber followed that up in 1932/1933 with contract (33-1729). Granted, the early contracts were for only 500 jackets or so, but they were around in service. Werber had another contract in 1935 (again, little more than 500 jackets).

CM · Post by CM » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:38 am

Yes Tibor should have been more specific - not widely available until 1937. A tiny amount produced before then were less likely to make their way to Indy. But anything is possible.

As I said in an earlier thread on this I would have accepted Indy in a worn A2 in 1936 but it's a bit of stretch.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:59 am

Hey, if he can have a Belgium made Browning P35 in his belt, only produced a year before Raiders, and only available to the Belgium army at the time, why not an A2?

That said, though, I also go with the A1 or half belt configuration idea, as they were available just about anywhere, and in a college professor's price range.

Regards! Michaelson

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:26 am

If memory serves (it normally doesn't) I think the MKVII bag was a 40's era piece too!

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:16 am

Yep. We don't want to get TOO deep into the 'period correct' dissection of his gear, as we'll find a TON of incorrect items were put into play by the director and prop department as a matter of convenience rather than historical accuracy.

I believe that's the point of the original question in this thread...what WOULD have been right?

Regard! M

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:06 pm

Michaelson wrote:Hey, if he can have a Belgium made Browning P35 in his belt, only produced a year before Raiders, and only available to the Belgium army at the time, why not an A2?

That said, though, I also go with the A1 or half belt configuration idea, as they were available just about anywhere, and in a college professor's price range.

Regards! Michaelson

But remember Indy doesn't have to live on a professor's salary...his dad is Sean Connery. Hellooo the millionaire? Duh!

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Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:42 pm

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:59 pm

Not an A-1. Too long and heavy.

I'd go with the shorter Levi's Menlo (Skyfall) type jacket.

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:38 pm

CM wrote:Yes Tibor should have been more specific - not widely available until 1937. A tiny amount produced before then were less likely to make their way to Indy. But anything is possible.

As I said in an earlier thread on this I would have accepted Indy in a worn A2 in 1936 but it's a bit of stretch.

Yeah, I agree... Extremely unlikely that a civilian would have one. Even if you were discharged, you didn't keep your equipment. With only 1500 produced by then and most of those being actively worn, Indy's in something from Sears... something easily replaceable.

backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:41 am

An A-1 is a good idea, as Indy's gear is obviously military inspired.

I like the Sears comment.... something like the Levi vintage jacket, etc. SOmething like Magnoli's Open road jacket?

Indy was a professor, an everyman, he'd have more access to everyday places instead of military items even with his connections, I'd think.

What about Fedora's jacket from LC (if it was in brown of course) ? Is that even an accurate jacket to the time?

CM · Post by CM » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:39 am

Ridgerunner58 wrote:Not an A-1. Too long and heavy.

I'd go with the shorter Levi's Menlo (Skyfall) type jacket.

Huh????

An A1 is a short jacket made of very light sheep leather. It's like an A2, only lighter and has buttons rather than a zip and a knit collar.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:14 am

Honestly, as much as I am a stark raving half-belt fan, I like the idea of a car coat like Fedora's. Indy was emulating him in the first place.

I always find that funny that we emulate Indy and have to get it down to the stitch count on a web belt, but Indy was the ORIGINAL gear head. If you measured him by our standards he stunk at it too!!!

I can hear us now..."the jacket had buttons not a zipper!! That jacket is way too short!! Where did you get that horrible ribbon!?!??? Have you ever SEEN Fedora's hat!?!???"

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:00 am

And his hair was longer, wrong nationality for a side kick... man, this list just goes on and on!!!!

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:03 am

Ha! Indy's such a loser. Worst gear head ever...

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:51 pm

Hollowpond wrote:I need to put new ones up. It's been broken in from all the wear it got this winter and it just gained character. It looks even better!

I took the liberty of posting the photo of you in your jacket as you requested, Trav.

CM · Post by CM » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:30 pm

Are those Noel Howard trousers?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:46 pm

Yikes...him again...

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:43 am

Just throwing this out there...is anyone watching Turn on AMC? That leather jacket that Abraham wears is AWESOME!

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backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:08 pm

ChrisMD wrote:Just throwing this out there...is anyone watching Turn on AMC? That leather jacket that Abraham wears is AWESOME!

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That's a bit TOO period

Haven't watched Turn yet, it's on my list.... distracted by Daredevil right now....

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:27 pm

Here is our "Vintage Adventure Jacket"... a blend of the standard Indy jacket with some more vintage elements:

...complete with plaid wool lining:

Carolina Tom · Post by **Carolina Tom** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:34 pm

That is one beautiful jacket!

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:21 pm

Indy Magnoli wrote:Here is our "Vintage Adventure Jacket"... a blend of the standard Indy jacket with some more vintage elements:

...complete with plaid wool lining:

Somehow, I missed this. It's good to see that jacket again. That's such a great jacket! I always thought it would be cool to extend the edges of the bi-swing panel out to the edges like on an IJ jacket and give it Ij straps. Someday....

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:20 pm

Beautiful!

Just not a fan of the wool lining, though, as it could only be worn in only cool weather where I live, and I have enough heavy, rarely worn winter coats in my closet.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:45 pm

Well, there goes one of my kidneys

Great looking jacket Mags!

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:30 pm

Michaelson wrote:Beautiful!

Just not a fan of the wool lining, though, as it could only be worn in only cool weather where I live, and I have enough heavy, rarely worn winter coats in my closet.

Regards! Michaelson

I had one of these, and Magnoli swapped the lining out with an all-satin at my request. It was probably my favorite jacket of all time. The hide was quite thick, and a sweater underneath allowed me to wear it in some pretty frosty weather.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:17 pm

I imagine it would be in Pennsylvania, Chewie...but not down here in South Central Tennessee.

Regards! M

backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:22 am

Chewbacca Jones wrote:
Michaelson wrote:Beautiful!

Just not a fan of the wool lining, though, as it could only be worn in only cool weather where I live, and I have enough heavy, rarely worn winter coats in my closet.

Regards! Michaelson
I had one of these, and Magnoli swapped the lining out with an all-satin at my request. It was probably my favorite jacket of all time. The hide was quite thick, and a sweater underneath allowed me to wear it in some pretty frosty weather.

Now that I live in the Granite State, this jacket looks more and more appealing to pull off the MOTB Indy look during the winter ;-)

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:20 pm

backstagejack wrote:
Chewbacca Jones wrote:
Michaelson wrote:Beautiful!

Just not a fan of the wool lining, though, as it could only be worn in only cool weather where I live, and I have enough heavy, rarely worn winter coats in my closet.

Regards! Michaelson
I had one of these, and Magnoli swapped the lining out with an all-satin at my request. It was probably my favorite jacket of all time. The hide was quite thick, and a sweater underneath allowed me to wear it in some pretty frosty weather.
Now that I live in the Granite State, this jacket looks more and more appealing to pull off the MOTB Indy look during the winter ;-)

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:39 pm

whipcracker wrote:
backstagejack wrote:
Chewbacca Jones wrote:
Michaelson wrote:Beautiful!

Just not a fan of the wool lining, though, as it could only be worn in only cool weather where I live, and I have enough heavy, rarely worn winter coats in my closet.

Regards! Michaelson
I had one of these, and Magnoli swapped the lining out with an all-satin at my request. It was probably my favorite jacket of all time. The hide was quite thick, and a sweater underneath allowed me to wear it in some pretty frosty weather.
Now that I live in the Granite State, this jacket looks more and more appealing to pull off the MOTB Indy look during the winter ;-)

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

hahaha one day, hopefully soon