AB Legacy Raiders - Penman Hats Pure Lightweight Rabbit felt

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:20 pm

baddates1 wrote: John is a true Hat maker!

Who would have thought.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:52 pm

You must choose. But choose wisely, for as the true Hat maker will bring you happiness the false Hat maker will take it from you.

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:08 pm

I did get a wierd contraption in the mail today. Looks similar to what doc Brown had on his head when Marty knocked on his door in the past.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:33 pm

That would probably be a "conformer".

Best not to be seen wearing it.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:36 am

Ridgerunner58 wrote:You must choose. But choose wisely, for as the true Hat maker will bring you happiness the false Hat maker will take it from you.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:08 pm

Looks like John bashed your hat, too.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:21 pm

Texan Scott wrote:Looks like John bashed your hat, too.

He starts them. I wear them and they morph into something else. I've only had this one a few days so it has more of his fingerprints and fewer of mine on it, but it's actually starting to change quicker than beaver felt does. This new lightweight rabbit felt is pretty neat stuff.

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:05 pm

Just placed my order, now all I have to do is wait for 4 long months

APL · Post by **APL** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:28 pm

Yeah, I placed mine at the beginning of the month.... I wear my Penman LC daily, so the wait isn't so hard this time around.

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:32 pm

Sweet. Placed mine middle of this month.

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:51 pm

Cool, so we are getting them around the same time.

I've ordered several hats in the past couple years, so I should be used to the waiting times by now, but nooo, I'm an incredibly obsessive person and there's not a single day that goes by that I'm not thinking about when I'm getting the new hat. My girlfriend is going to have a hard time bearing with me.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:37 pm

I just realized that even tho I've posted pic's in another thread, I never posted in this particular thread.
I've been wearing this ABL ever since I opened the box, not with standing a heavey down pour or a HUGE Nor'easter.

John this lid is awesome, I catch my self looking into any reflected surface and I just see Indy and awesome.
Thanks again.
Crack that whip.
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Just another shot.
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And don't even think about it.

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Croft

APL · Post by **APL** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:05 pm

Awesome pics! Love the look of that ABL!

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:13 pm

Now! This hat is truly "Raiders (the way it reallllly should have been)," all the way! Great shots and one incredibly beautiful peace of work

,

! W>

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:21 pm

Nice looking lid $\:D/$

I'm in the market for a new hat myself. I was wondering about the bow though, it looks like
it is a bit forward on the hat.

Did you order it this way, or is that the norm for these?

Thanks

Marcus

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:34 pm

Marcus ol buddy, that's the way it comes, took me a bit to get used to it, but if you study the SOC hat you'll see the bow that far forward. Called the "turn"
I can't wait for warmer weather to take some real good shots, these were taken about a month ago and it was cold, brrrrr.
Croft

APL · Post by **APL** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:02 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:Marcus ol buddy, that's the way it comes, took me a bit to get used to it, but if you study the SOC hat you'll see the bow that far forward. Called the "turn"
I can't wait for warmer weather to take some real good shots, these were taken about a month ago and it was cold, brrrrr.
Croft

Yup, the turn is a Raiders only thing but that's one of the aspects that makes the hat. I have an AB Henry that has a slight turn and now that the crease and pinch are pretty well cemented, I sorta missed my shot at including a good turn... but looking forward to that with the ABL when it comes.

It does bring to mind a question, which may be partly directed to John himself... did I need to say anything specific about including the turn when ordering or will it be present just by virtue of being a Raiders hat? I just sorta figured the standard order of an ABL Raiders would be as "Raiders" as a hat could be.... heh.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:13 pm

John turns his Raiders fedoras as a matter of course. If you want it without you have to ask.

APL · Post by **APL** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:28 pm

Ridgerunner58 wrote:John turns his Raiders fedoras as a matter of course. If you want it without you have to ask.

Perfect. Thanks! Looking forward to the perfect Raiders, to go along with the perfect LC ... also a Penman.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:43 pm

APL, I might be mistaken, but the ABL, this particular fedora is based on the SOC hat and John will automatically be putting the turn, I don't believe he's changing how that will look. But John should chime in confirm.

Either way, this lid is epic.

Croft

Duck9000 · Post by **Duck9000** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:11 pm

Posted by John (another thread)

BendingOak wrote:Thank you to my PR guy again. Just one thing I need to add or be clear about. the Advenutrebilt Legacy collection is just that. A collection of Indiana Jones specific hats. Thee will be no options with these hats. First one up is the Raiders (which you can order now) in the hero brown and thats the only color I will do. Later I will add other Indy hats like the hero CS and the train travel hats (using Steves martial, blocks and secrets). Some others I will add to the collection like Young indy, Tolts hat, the fedora guy hat from LC, etc , etc. again, these will have no options. example. Can I make a dark moss young indy hat? or a CS in pecan. Yes but not in the ABL only using the Penman brand will there be options. The ABL will be the only way the AB brand will continue once Steve hangs his hat up.I will not be doing any style hat using the AB name.

I will still be offering my versions of all the Indy hats I do now. You can have them in any color I offer with different ribbons, etc, etc. All the Penman hats including the indy will be done as pristine as possible like my customers know I have done in the past. example of my madness. My Penman Raiders will be as SA as possible but will be a clean up version of that hat. no floating stitches, etc, etc. The AB Leagcy Raiders hat will be the more SA hat with the floating stitches , etc, etc. Now we are talking about 5% difference but I never liked coping poor craftsmanship and putting my name on it. AB being the Indy hat maker of them films and Steve being the guy to Raise the bar when it comes to SA Indy hat specially the Raiders hat..I thought it works out best that the most SA Raiders hat using that new felt of mine makes sense to do it as such.

Ok, now that I went on for some time here. I hope things are clear or as clear as mud.

I think I might have to do a write up showing the difference between two hats. stay tuned.

arklover · Post by **arklover** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:24 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:I just realized that even tho I've posted pic's in another thread, I never posted in this particular thread.
I've been wearing this ABL ever since I opened the box, not with standing a heavey down pour or a HUGE Nor'easter.

John this lid is awesome, I catch my self looking into any reflected surface and I just see Indy and awesome.
Thanks again.
Crack that whip.
[URL=http://s193.photobucket.com/user/i ... .jpg[/img][/url]
Just another shot.
[URL=http://s193.photobucket.com/user/i ... .jpg[/img][/url]
And don't even think about it.
[URL=http://s193.photobucket.com/user/i ... .jpg[/img][/url]
Love the hat. .John did an amazing job..can't wait to order mine

Croft

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:17 pm

For anyone wondering how the ABL might hold up I offer the following photos taken about 60 seconds apart. (You CAN try this at home)

The before picture -

The after picture -

I have taken this thing everywhere in the last month. I fold it and put it in a motorcycle saddlebag and it bounces right back. In a restaurant, I don't worry about putting it on the floor. I roll it up and put it inside the sleeve of my jacket, then hang the jacket on the back of the chair. No fuss, and no way to leave it behind. I swear I could do this all day and the hat would bounce back and look even better for it.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:30 pm

Impressive way the hat bounces back.

Please reduce the size of your pictures.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:43 pm

Jeff. I Bet the picture will spring back to this size though.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:58 pm

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:49 pm

Indiana Jeff wrote:Impressive way the hat bounces back.

Please reduce the size of your pictures.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Sorry 'bout that . . .

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:54 pm

Stop it! Really, I mean stop this! Every time I check into this thread, I start salivating like one of 'Pavlov's dogs

!' It's more then I can handle

,

! W>

tedquinton · Post by **tedquinton** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:19 pm

Wow, looks as though it would make an excellent travel hat.

John can all hats withstand that kind of treatment or is the felt on this particularly suited to be packed.

baddates1 · Post by **baddates1** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:44 pm

I'm not an expert on this, but I think Penman and Adventurbilt hats are really the only ones you want to roll up and put in a suitcase for a long period of time. Due to the special way they are built, they are the definate Indy hats. if we are talking about Federation hats, that's a different story.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:52 pm

The felt is not really the limiting. Issue on being able to fold or roll a hat for travel. (Other than obviously western hats with 40 lbs of stiffener in them). The limitation is the sweatband.

Akubras have a wire reed in the sweatband that will kink if you fold the hat. Penman, Adventurebilt and Garrison (I think) use a sweatband with a nylon reed. So DO NOT roll up a Fed IV. You'll wreck the sweatband. As long as the sweatband can take it, however, and provided the felt doesn't have so much stiffener that it will break, it should pack okay.

Additionally if you pack a good fedora for travel (which I do a lot) consider buying a shoe bag to contain the rolled hat. It protects the hat and holds it in rolled condition.

tedquinton · Post by **tedquinton** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:01 am

Ridgerunner58 wrote:The felt is not really the limiting. Issue on being able to fold or roll a hat for travel. (Other than obviously western hats with 40 lbs of stiffener in them). The limitation is the sweatband.

Akubras have a wire reed in the sweatband that will kink if you fold the hat. Penman, Adventurebilt and Garrison (I think) use a sweatband with a nylon reed. So DO NOT roll up a Fed IV. You'll wreck the sweatband. As long as the sweatband can take it, however, and provided the felt doesn't have so much stiffener that it will break, it should pack okay.

Additionally if you pack a good fedora for travel (which I do a lot) consider buying a shoe bag to contain the rolled hat. It protects the hat and holds it in rolled condition.

Thanks good advice. I've got a shoe box, now just need a Penman/Adventurebilt!

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:57 pm

Is the color of the felt a lighter brown or is it just me?

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:21 am

Must be the lighting. It's the same color as my beaver felt Penmans.

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:09 am

Mine is an awesome color. In certain light it has the reddish tint I like.

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:55 am

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alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:55 am

Jeremiah wrote:Mine is an awesome color. In certain light it has the reddish tint I like.

would you say is different to the color of your adventurebilt?

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:56 am

Jeremiah wrote:http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u58 ... wluphj.jpg

It looks awesome!

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:58 am

alex1152 wrote:
Jeremiah wrote:Mine is an awesome color. In certain light it has the reddish tint I like.
would you say is different to the color of your adventurebilt?

My AB is definitely more faded from the sun. So hard to say as one is newer but I would say my ABL came slightly lighter in color which I believe is how John said it would. I love the color though.
Thanks.

rogera · Post by **rogera** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:55 am

Jeremiah wrote:
alex1152 wrote:
Jeremiah wrote:Mine is an awesome color. In certain light it has the reddish tint I like.
would you say is different to the color of your adventurebilt?
My AB is definitely more faded from the sun. So hard to say as one is newer but I would say my ABL came slightly lighter in color which I believe is and how John said it would. I love the color though.
Thanks.

That color us great! I like the contrast between the ribbon and felt.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:04 pm

They certainty age well, I've been wearing mine non stop, well I take it off to go to bed.

Need to take a few shots when I can to show how it looks now, lovin this lid.

Croft

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:07 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:They certainty age well, I've been wearing mine non stop, well I take it off to go to bed.

Need to take a few shots when I can to show how it looks now, lovin this lid.

Croft

May I ask one question? Why? Why do you take it off for bed time

?

W>

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:38 pm

Croft

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:26 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:

Croft

Truly sorry 'bout all this, but I did think it would put an additional 'crinkle' in your head/hat-or both

! Great hat! W>

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:16 pm

I imagine that Indy spent many a night with it on his hear or used as a pillow of sorts.
No worries, have I said I'm lovin this lid.

Croft

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:22 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:They certainty age well, I've been wearing mine non stop, well I take it off to go to bed.

Need to take a few shots when I can to show how it looks now, lovin this lid.

Croft

Pelase do, I would love to see some pictures

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:22 pm

Trains,a nice day and a good hat. What more can you ask for.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:09 pm

Ok, where are you at, and what is the locomotive behind you?....and a DANG good looking hat!!!

We also have a passel of rail fans around this joint too!

Regards! M

Jeremiah · Post by **Jeremiah** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:33 pm

That's an 0-6-0 E-10
We are at the Pennsylvania railroad museum in Strasburg.
Ride was about 45mins. Very nice. Love the smell of coal in the morning.
Thanks.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:56 pm