For those who don't care about SA...

AdaminNYC · Post by **AdaminNYC** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:20 pm

I know the quest for SA is its own whole thing, a sort of holy grail if you will. But then there are those of us who want an Indy style jacket, that speaks to the spirit of the jacket, but sacrifices film-fidelity for things like ruggedness, fit, and style.

To that end, I thought I'd start a thread to see if anyone has found any good bomber style jackets, sans elastics, that are close enough.

Our friends at Schott NYC have a new one for the fall: http://www.schottnyc.com/products/waxy- ... m?catID=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I went to see this in the store, and it's pretty nice. It's got buckles on the sides and half-belted in back. It's a bit more form fitting than the bi-swing of a true Indy, and the tighter arm holes don't give you the flying squirrel. Plus, Schott jackets are tough as nails.

I don't personally like this one, but British Lewis Leathers has a bomber style intended for motorcycle riding: http://www.lewisleathers.com/productinf ... umJakNo699" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I like a jacket designed to stand up against asphalt attack.

Anyone else got any non-Indy Indy jackets?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:33 pm

That Schott is a jewel!!

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:15 pm

GREAT looking jacket!!!

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:33 am

The Schott jacket is pretty spiffy.

Sort of a cross between an Indy and Surrogates jacket.

The Lewis jackets looks really plasticy to me.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

CM · Post by CM » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:12 am

The Schott is their take on a 1950's long half-belt. It's not as well done as Aero's version but it's decent. Aero specialises in period jackets, some of them date back to the time of Raiders.

I think a 1930's Indy would have worn an A1. If anyone wold care to past one... The A1 was the first of the classic flying/adventurer jackets that was developed in the 1920's.

AdaminNYC · Post by **AdaminNYC** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:43 pm

Thanks, CM. I hadn't heard of Aero. They have some pretty good bomber-ish jackets.
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/prod ... sicleather" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CM · Post by CM » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:38 pm

Aero in Scotland would be seen by many to be amongst the premier leather jacket makers in the word. They are hand crafted and rugged pieces - the opposite of fashion leather. Their jackets are based on genuine vintage patterns. But their jackets may not appeal to many Indy fans. They don't use light lamb and the leather they prefer is 3oz horse hide which is very heavy and stiff. It feels like armor and an Indy jacket in this would weigh 5-6 pounds. In fact it's too thick for me in this Australian climate.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:07 pm

I just bought this one! $\:D/$

Vanson made copy of a Californian. Made right here in the US of A!! Always thought the historical Indy would wear one of these...

erikgunnlugson · Post by **erikgunnlugson** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:02 pm

Dang that is a nice one. Wow

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Illinois James · Post by **Illinois James** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:44 pm

That's an outstanding jacket, and it's on my wish list!

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:57 am

Oooo, purrrrrrdeeeeeee.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:58 am

that is sweeeeet!!!!

CM · Post by CM » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:24 pm

Hollowpond wrote:I just bought this one! $\:D/$

Vanson made copy of a Californian. Made right here in the US of A!! Always thought the historical Indy would wear one of these...

Can you get these from Vanson or do you need to go through Logan's Closet?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:38 pm

Pretty sure Logan's Closet exclusively...

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:22 am

Got it today, and fit pictures are coming, but seriously...I've waited my whole adult life for this jacket.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:37 am

Uh, something about that statement seems AWFULLY familiar.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:46 am

Haha! Fair enough...fair enough.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:02 pm

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:14 pm

Sooo... you'll be getting rid of it in what? 6 months? a year?

Keep me in the loop

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:14 pm

Not this one. It's perfect....

But there is a precedence here.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:16 pm

I'll give you the benfit of the doubt T... and until May of next year...

Then it's MINE, ALL MINE

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:18 pm

AdaminNYC · Post by **AdaminNYC** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:43 pm

Oh, our friends Cockpit USA, who gave us the Roughneck jacket, now have the sniper jacket:
http://www.cockpitusa.com/men/sniper-jacket" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'll say this: there used to be a Cockpit USA store in NYC, and I tried on the Roughneck. It was a good looking jacket; it draped a LOT better than a true Indy. BUT it was made of a pre-distressed leather that I didn’t believe would stand the test of time. Besides, very expensive stuff.

CM · Post by CM » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:06 am

A real Indy may have worn one of these - 1920's leather chore coat. It would have been 10-15 years old at the time of Raiders. It's a bit like Fedora's longer jacket in Last Crusade. It's by Aero, a company many believe is the greatest manufacturer of leather jackets.

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/prod ... hp?id=2391" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:16 am

Finally some fit pictures!

SUPER cool lining!!

The grain, color and the Talon zip..

LOVE THIS JACKET!!!

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:20 am

Oh, and this will be the the first jacket that I've kept that WILL NOT be artificially distressed!

Mock if you will (its totally deserved...

), but this one will be passed on to the grandkids!!!

Forrest For the Trees · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:11 pm

Looks great. I love the color of the leather, especially where it is showing some wear already. Looks even better than Tony's version. Enjoy it!

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:19 am

Hollowpond wrote:LOVE THIS JACKET!!!

Awful. Just awful.

The leather looks like plastic

, the fit is all off

, and your plaids clash!

Send it to me post-haste for immediate destruction.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Jacques · Post by **Jacques** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:54 am

There's some pretty impressive jacket choices out there! I agree with Hollowpond that some of these you could pass on to your kids or grandkids...they're practically heirlooms.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:22 am

Indiana Jeff wrote:
Hollowpond wrote:LOVE THIS JACKET!!!

Awful. Just awful.

The leather looks like plastic , the fit is all off , and your plaids clash!

Send it to me post-haste for immediate destruction.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Okay...it's on the way...sorry...

You are right that the plaids don't match though!

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:29 am

Hollowpond wrote:Oh, and this will be the the first jacket that I've kept that WILL NOT be artificially distressed! Mock if you will (its totally deserved... ), but this one will be passed on to the grandkids!!!

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:42 pm

AdaminNYC wrote:Oh, our friends Cockpit USA, who gave us the Roughneck jacket, now have the sniper jacket:
http://www.cockpitusa.com/men/sniper-jacket" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'll say this: there used to be a Cockpit USA store in NYC, and I tried on the Roughneck. It was a good looking jacket; it draped a LOT better than a true Indy. BUT it was made of a pre-distressed leather that I didn’t believe would stand the test of time. Besides, very expensive stuff.

WOW I LOVE that jacket!!!!! If only I could spare that kinda cash!

ron521 · Post by **ron521** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:14 pm

I've got a St. John's Bay jacket, purchased at Penneys in the mid 90's. It's got most of the features of the Schott discussed above (zippered chest pocket, cuffs with snap fasteners, side straps, bi-swing back, and flannel lining), but lacks the half-belt. I didn't buy it as an Indy jacket, but I've always liked the overall look, and it certainly looks like it is from the right period...like it could have hung on the rack in the same store where Indy bought his jacket.

Jacques · Post by **Jacques** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:57 am

ron521 wrote:I've got a St. John's Bay jacket, purchased at Penneys in the mid 90's. It's got most of the features of the Schott discussed above (zippered chest pocket, cuffs with snap fasteners, side straps, bi-swing back, and flannel lining), but lacks the half-belt. I didn't buy it as an Indy jacket, but I've always liked the overall look, and it certainly looks like it is from the right period...like it could have hung on the rack in the same store where Indy bought his jacket.

Could you post a picture of it?

ron521 · Post by **ron521** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:54 am

http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/ursac ... a.jpg.html

http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/ursac ... 1.jpg.html

http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/ursac ... 6.jpg.html

Jacques · Post by **Jacques** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:13 pm

^^^Looks great!

CM · Post by CM » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:34 am

Nice but I get more of a 1950's design vibe from that one.

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:36 am

Since Hollowpond post pics of this Californian from Vanson, I guess I can post mine from Bill Kelso!

The jacket is based on TN pattern.

The leather is Liberty HH in seal brown and with tartan lining

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:37 am

And here some fit pics :

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:09 pm

I have to say, I really like the half-belt look. It adds character. Hollowpond, I think that jacket is very well suited to you - the color, the hide, the style, all together jst flat out works.

All this sorta-Indy-Jacket talk makes me miss my Magnoli Vintage Adventure jacket. That was my favorite. Someday, I'll have to replace it, but it's on somebody else's back now.
For what it's worth, this is my #1 find. http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/vintage ... p-152.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have something else now, only half as nice and about a third the quality... but no pics yet.

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:16 pm

All this half belt talk makes me think of Starsky from Starsky and Hutch.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:51 pm

Thanks Chewie!! It is my "forever jacket"

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:15 am

Is this tag actually sewn in your BK jacket?

Regards! Michaelson

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:34 am

Yes, apparently all half-belts from BK have an "original" label sew in

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:07 am

Interesting.

Thanks!

Regard! M

Forrest For the Trees · Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:06 pm

Not much different than a repro A-2 label. Adds to the authentic reproduction, tags and all, like the Bermans and Nathans tag in the Relic Hunter. The pocket probably has the Bill Kelso Mfg tag.

Great looking jacket, by the way!

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:12 pm

It is a nice looking jacket.

With that tag I'm concerned about how long before one of these tries to be sold as "new old stock found in the back of my granddad's closet."

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Forrest For the Trees · Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:40 am

Indiana Jeff wrote:It is a nice looking jacket.

With that tag I'm concerned about how long before one of these tries to be sold as "new old stock found in the back of my granddad's closet."

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Fair enough, yeah, I could see that. Either way, both jackets would cost a lot of money. Can't say it would be really worth it. There are easier ways to scam people.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:29 am

Forrest For the Trees wrote: Fair enough, yeah, I could see that. Either way, both jackets would cost a lot of money. Can't say it would be really worth it.

Initially, yes, they're both high end, cost wise, and both well worth the money.

I think what Jeff is talking about is which one would hold a higher value in the secondary market......an original, or a copy with a reproduction tag and no indication on the tag of it BEING a reproduction? Once it leaves the possession of the first owner, who would know its original history?

I think you know the answer to that one.

It's still a very nice looking jacket. I just wish they'd stop using those labels in their jackets and sew in one of their own.

Regard! Michaelson

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:02 pm

Forrest For the Trees wrote:
Indiana Jeff wrote:It is a nice looking jacket.

With that tag I'm concerned about how long before one of these tries to be sold as "new old stock found in the back of my granddad's closet."

Regards,

Indiana Jeff
Fair enough, yeah, I could see that. Either way, both jackets would cost a lot of money. Can't say it would be really worth it. There are easier ways to scam people.

Sure, a new Bill Kelso still costs a pretty penny, but like Michaelson said, with the 'reproduction' tags in the jacket it would be more difficult to tell the difference from a true vintage jacket. On the secondary market, pristine vintage jackets easily go for over $1,000 especially if it was being offered up in a common size.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff