Teaser: Project RAIDERS II

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:24 pm

Just a teaser of our next project.

The TEMPLE OF DOOM jacket.

Prototype made of pre-distressed very-VERY THIN cowhide (light and pliable as lambskin)

Correct side-vents and collar stand, YKK nº 10 zipper, pocket dimensions, wide yoke, etc.

So, what do you think?

More info soon.-

PS: an important thing is, there's no need to make this jacket "ill fitted" to be screen-accurate. This jacket you see fits me very comfortable, on my true size.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:33 pm

Dang! That's NICE, Indiego!

Regards! Michaelson

Bogie1943 · Post by **Bogie1943** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:40 pm

Wonderful news. I've always have a love to ToD jacket. That hide actually looks rather perfect. Looking forward to seeing more.

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Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:03 pm

Thanks for the compliments!
We hope to continue the development on this project, and soon be able to offer it.

Cheers.-

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:03 pm

Nice looking leather!

Bdgsi11 · Post by **Bdgsi11** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:27 pm

Love the way that leather looks and drapes. I think you're spot on with it!

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:33 pm

Looks awesome!!! But chronologically it should be Raiders 0.5!!

I can't help but hope a LC is in the works.

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chuck2003 · Post by **chuck2003** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:13 pm

Wow that's a fine looking jacket......This might tempt me into buying one jacket per movie

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:30 pm

WOW! INFREAKINGCREDIBLE!

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:40 pm

Exceptional !! Keep the sleeves trim and long enough for lots of wrinkling.

Really, an exceptional job. Is that the same light weight cowhide ... Is it all done with sanding or did you use other techniques?

Can I get a Raiders made outa that pre-distressed hide?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:57 pm

....

.....it just looks too, how does one say it....Indy-ish, to me. Too much like Indian Bones.

Those token pockets and wide yoke, its a piece o' work, kemo-suave!

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:31 am

Thanks for your kindness! This is what push us to improve the accuracy.

This is how this leather looks as new.
Soon I'm going to distress this jacket screen-accurate. I think we can pull something very nice out of it.

Hollowpond wrote:Looks awesome!!! But chronologically it should be Raiders 0.5!!

I can't help but hope a LC is in the works.

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For the moment we are focusing on this ToD offering. No LC development yet.

chuck2003 wrote:Wow that's a fine looking jacket......This might tempt me into buying one jacket per movie

And the price will be the best part.
Because we are going to offer it completely custom on measurements and screen-accurate distressed (upon request) NO EXTRA CHARGE.

Tibor wrote:Exceptional !! Keep the sleeves trim and long enough for lots of wrinkling.

Really, an exceptional job. Is that the same light weight cowhide ... Is it all done with sanding or did you use other techniques?

Can I get a Raiders made outa that pre-distressed hide?

Not the same thin cowhide we've been offering on our RAIDERS jacket.
This is as thin as that one, but with a different finish (due to be pre-distressed on tannery)
Yes, of course you can have a RAIDERS jacket made with this leather, and I think it would be amazing!

Kind regards!!!

Obi Sean Kenobi · Post by **Obi Sean Kenobi** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:25 pm

I think it said this above, but is a fully distressed version Available???

If so, sign me up?? Size 44!

chuck2003 · Post by **chuck2003** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:56 pm

Wow cant wait going to go with the distressed one for sure! any approximate eta on this ?

Forrest For the Trees · Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:38 am

Looks perfect! Excellent work.

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:56 am

Thanks Forrest!

chuck2003 wrote:Wow cant wait going to go with the distressed one for sure! any approximate eta on this ?

Working on a custom pattern for every orderer takes time.
We like to dispatch the jackets once we're completely sure that hits the Indy fan's requirements.
We try our best to have the jacket ready within the 45 days from payment.

Cheers.-

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:25 am

Curious, Diego. Ford said he didn't like to wear the ToD, Raiders II if you prefer. How does the ToD pattern differ in terms of the fit than the Raiders jacket, aesthetics aside?

MARQ · Post by **MARQ** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:12 am

Texan,where did you get that "Word Of Ford" about the jacket?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:37 am

Well, the ol' whisky man and I had a lil' pow wow, and then he sprung it on me....no, I think it has been mentioned before in these ToD jacket threads if I'm not mistaken.

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:16 am

Texan Scott wrote:Curious, Diego. Ford said he didn't like to wear the ToD, Raiders II if you prefer. How does the ToD pattern differ in terms of the fit than the Raiders jacket, aesthetics aside?

I don't know about Ford complain on the jacket.
If the character doesn't wear the jacket on specific scenes, must be due to the script, I think

Now, about the pattern differences between RAIDERS and ToD jackets...
Well, here I'm going to say something I've never read on any forum, anywhere.
I had to work directly on pattern making, replicating as accurate as possible both jackets... (drum roll.....................................)
Both jackets are almost identical.

Let me explain:
* I can certainly imagine that the workshop that provided the ToD jackets had in hand original RAIDERS jacket/s.
* Because, many features are identical.
* BUT, I PRESSUME the workshop of the ToD jackets had this instructions from the production (maybe from the costume designer): "What we need is to replicate this jacket (RAIDERS), but change this list of specific features (pocket dimensions, collar dimensions, back lenght), so it looks a bit different"
* The buckles, the bottom side vents, the non-sewed bottom of the jacket, are IMO all just ussual construction details of that leather workshop. They just have done it that way before.

Ok, now everyone can jump at my jugular for the blasphemy I've just said! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:39 am

The thing that I liked most about the ToD, the big standout was the distressed leather.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:44 am

You did read this on the main page, right?

http://www.indygear.com/igjacket-ToD.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regard! M

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:11 pm

Michaelson wrote:You did read this on the main page, right?

http://www.indygear.com/igjacket-ToD.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regard! M

I'm sorry, I've never read that info!

I've just commented my deductions by the personal experience making the patterns.

However, I can see much info of that text in the main site are stated as "no documented, non-corroborated", so, anything goes...

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:26 pm

Well, almost all our information was 'word of mouth' from the participants. The information by Noel Howard was told to several of us, including me, and the work of Cooper was told many times by David Hack and Anthony Powel to several folks, but as you say, it's all 'undocumented', with the exception of the Cooper connection as USW STILL holds the licensing agreement with LFL (now Disney) to produce the jackets.

During the making of Crystal Skull, USW was the ONLY vendor who did not receive a 'cease and desist' from LFL in their claim to Indiana Jones jacket sales. That IS a matter of record.

I just wanted to point out that it HAS been posted for years as the two jackets being 'almost identical'. There's a reason, as written up in the link.

Your opinion is in good company.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:57 pm

Michaelson wrote:Well, almost all our information was 'word of mouth' from the participants. The information by Noel Howard was told to several of us, including me, and the work of Cooper was told many times by David Hack and Anthony Powel to several folks, but as you say, it's all 'undocumented', with the exception of the Cooper connection as USW STILL holds the licensing agreement with LFL (now Disney) to produce the jackets.

During the making of Crystal Skull, USW was the ONLY vendor who did not receive a 'cease and desist' from LFL in their claim to Indiana Jones jacket sales. That IS a matter of record.

I just wanted to point out that it HAS been posted for years as the two jackets being 'almost identical'. There's a reason, as written up in the link.

Your opinion is in good company.

Regards! Michaelson

As always, THANKS FOR THE INPUT!
A true Knower of Things!

Kind regards.-

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:59 pm

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:39 pm

Well, for me they're hugely different in the size of the yoke, which I'm very sensitive to. The other big difference is the bottom of the back pleats, as we've all seen... And the buckles. It has grown on me, but the low yoke is still not as functional in my mind.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:09 pm

Here's the quote. I knew I read it somewhere: "Powell had another problem once Ford arrived on set. The jackets were too big. During the time that had elapsed between Ford’s fitting by Cooper and the beginning of production, Ford had lost between 8 to 12 pounds. Additionally, the jackets were lined with a heavy nylon weave that was inappropriate to the shooting location and which Ford reportedly hated. Powell attempted a solution that while unique, didn’t quite work out the way he planned. Powell’s team created a lining from cotton that did fit Ford and sewed them into 3 of the marginally larger shells. While these appeared to fit better, the armholes were too tight for Ford and he refused to wear them. As a result, Ford can be seen wearing either a Cooper (loose fitting with uncomfortable nylon lining) or Vic Armstrong’s “Raiders” jacket (tight, trim fit)."

Having reread that, I'm a little surprised that they did not simply remove the lining altogether. Would have been a quick fix and still kept the fit. No one would have 'really' seen it anyway?

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:22 pm

With all the production snafu's that were going on at the time, including Ford injuring his back riding the elephant, I doubt they even thought about that easy fix, Tex. It's usually the simple answers that escape you when you need them most.

Regards! Michaelson

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:44 pm

Diego, I think this distressed leather would make a heck of a Raiders leather? The Hawaii still...?

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:41 am

Texan Scott wrote:Diego, I think this distressed leather would make a heck of a Raiders leather? The Hawaii still...?

Maybe...

(soon we will know)

indymassilia · Post by **indymassilia** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:49 am

Very beautiful work Indiego ,the skin looks very supple and i love the drape and color !

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:44 am

indymassilia wrote:Very beautiful work Indiego ,the skin looks very supple and i love the drape and color !

Not only is very supple, thin and pliable.
This jacket (size 42, with a 25" back) weights 2.4 pounds.
Very lightweight.

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:34 pm

Indiego Jones wrote:
indymassilia wrote:Very beautiful work Indiego ,the skin looks very supple and i love the drape and color !
Not only is very supple, thin and pliable.
This jacket (size 42, with a 25" back) weights 2.4 pounds.
Very lightweight.

Looks great, but how strong/durable is this leather?

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:18 pm

Tyrloch wrote:
Indiego Jones wrote:
indymassilia wrote:Very beautiful work Indiego ,the skin looks very supple and i love the drape and color !
Not only is very supple, thin and pliable.
This jacket (size 42, with a 25" back) weights 2.4 pounds.
Very lightweight.
Looks great, but how strong/durable is this leather?

Like thin cowhide. Stronger than lambskin.

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:32 pm

That finish and drape reminds me of my Magnoli "washed lambskin", but slightly more substantial. If that's true, you've got a winner for the hide! And the fit looks great.

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:24 pm

Indiego Jones wrote:
Tyrloch wrote:
Indiego Jones wrote:
indymassilia wrote:Very beautiful work Indiego ,the skin looks very supple and i love the drape and color !
Not only is very supple, thin and pliable.
This jacket (size 42, with a 25" back) weights 2.4 pounds.
Very lightweight.
Looks great, but how strong/durable is this leather?
Like thin cowhide. Stronger than lambskin.

If that's the case, then you can count me in - right after I purchase a goatskin version. At this point I'm probably going to just order a new one from G&B - I haven't had any luck finding a used one in my size. If only Indiego could get his hands on some more goatskin...

chuck2003 · Post by **chuck2003** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:37 am

any approximate eta on when they will be available

getting the itch again for another jacket

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:36 am

chuck2003 wrote:any approximate eta on when they will be available getting the itch again for another jacket

Available in 3...2...1 NOW!

Send us an e-mail.

Cheers.-

chuck2003 · Post by **chuck2003** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:08 pm

Sweet email sent

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:21 pm

chuck2003 wrote:Sweet email sent

e-mail replied!

chuck2003 · Post by **chuck2003** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:26 pm

Oooooo I'm excited!!! Guess I'll be your guinea pig haha will post pics when I receive it

DiCatania · Post by **DiCatania** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:53 pm

What is the price for one of those fine jackets?

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:56 pm

$299

Kyle

DiCatania · Post by **DiCatania** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:28 am

Thanks

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:09 pm

Indiego Jones wrote:
Texan Scott wrote:Diego, I think this distressed leather would make a heck of a Raiders leather? The Hawaii still...?
Maybe... (soon we will know)

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:35 pm

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:19 am

Chewbacca Jones wrote:That finish and drape reminds me of my Magnoli "washed lambskin", but slightly more substantial. If that's true, you've got a winner for the hide! And the fit looks great.

Indiego, I have to agree with my hubby.

The hide and fit look awesome!!!

I have to say that the jacket looks absolutely beautiful!!!

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:25 am

Indiego, as far as hide choices, can you also make a jacket with this ToD pattern using a slightly thicker cowhide? Or is this thinner hide the only option? I'm a big fan of the pattern, just not sure if I want a really thin leather jacket...

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:59 am

Thanks again everyone for your kind words!
Your opinion it's very important to us!

Tyrloch wrote:Indiego, as far as hide choices, can you also make a jacket with this ToD pattern using a slightly thicker cowhide? Or is this thinner hide the only option? I'm a big fan of the pattern, just not sure if I want a really thin leather jacket...

We try not to stock to much on different leathers, because as I've said before, we do all this as a hobby.
So, we try to keep choices limited.

However, I'll check with the tannery if they can sell us a batch for just 1 or 2 jackets.

Cheers.-