The Penman post 'em up Pages....The Adventure Continues...

Geekdadd · Post by **Geekdadd** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:22 pm

micsteam wrote:Is it rabbit or beaver ?? It looks great !!

Thanks! This one is rabbit.

IndyJames · Post by **IndyJames** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:24 pm

After 2 days of reading I finally reached the end of this thread. I can not tell you all how beautiful each and every hat is. My favorite is the green fedora, cant remember the page.

Hopefully in a few months I will be a proud owner of a penman at as well as my order was placed and payment went out today.

Thank you to all of you who have posted pictures. It really gave a newbie like mea good idea of the type of quality and attentiveness put into a penman hat. I count it as money well spend.

I received a paper crown today in the mail, not sure what that means but it is yet another step closer towards my hat. I am so excited!

micsteam · Post by **micsteam** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:26 pm

You'll be very pleased, just follow Mr. Penman's directions and he will make you an exceptional hat, I have no doubt.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:26 pm

james73084 wrote:I received a paper crown today in the mail, not sure what that means but it is yet another step closer towards my hat. I am so excited!

It means you are about to do the most important part (besides paying for the hat.) Try it on and see if it fits.

If not I think he sends a paper tape measure that you can use to create a crown. To be extra certain have someone measure your head 3 - 5 times with a cloth tape measure, write down each measurement and send the whole works including the measurements back.

It's an approximate exercise. You just need to be fairly close as the sweatband will shrink or stretch slightly to fit anyway

IndyJames · Post by **IndyJames** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:47 pm

We got my measurements down and they are being sent back today. Now all I need to do is wait. A long wait it will be indeed but.....It will be worth it. Mr.Penman has been great with awesome customer service!

IndyJames · Post by **IndyJames** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:50 pm

So I told my wife today that I wanted one of each of the indy hats

Her response

Said I am allowed one hat per yeah hahaha

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:43 pm

james73084 wrote:So I told my wife today that I wanted one of each of the indy hats

Her response

Said I am allowed one hat per yeah hahaha

Winner! That's better than none!

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:28 pm

james73084 wrote:So I told my wife today that I wanted one of each of the indy hats

Her response

Said I am allowed one hat per yeah hahaha

She may succeed where hundreds before her have failed, but the odds are not in her favor.

Of course you could show her THIS thread - http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f ... 92#p811192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - and point out that having four is nothing . . .

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:08 am

Hey! That's one more than I own!!!

An Indy hat-less mod? They're gonna kick me out of here!!!

IndyJames · Post by **IndyJames** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:05 pm

Well, to let you in on a little bit about me, perhaps you will understand her position lol.

For the past 8 years my hobbys have grown, all of them being expencive.

I collect weapons (My most recent purhase being an ar-15 and an aimpoint compm2 sight for it around the time the senate was going to try and ban them so I paid waaay over what it was worth to make sure I had one).

Other then that I also play video games. My computer gets an upgrade every 2-3 years at around 1 grand everytime.

Then there is this new hobby which is collecting indy hats

. The wife has limited me to 1 gun a year, 1 computer upgrade a year and now one hat a year. I have been patient and stuck to this. Trust me when I say that if I did not, my family would probably be broke

I am happy with the arrangement.

(Please note that this year limit does not account for my birthday or Christmas. Last year I got my ar-15 as a just because I wanted one reason. I then got a 12 guage double barrel sxs shotgun for my birthday and a smith and wesson M&P Shield 9mm for Christmas as well as a $300 keyboard)

Not trying to brag just trying to explain the situation as it is. I have a funny feeling that we will be ordering a raiders fedora as well as a Temple of Doom this year

. Anyway, Mr. Penman keep up the great work.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:57 pm

I try,

car96 · Post by **car96** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:43 pm

So, what is the wait time on a Indy Raiders Penman hat?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:47 pm

Estimated at 2-3 months

car96 · Post by **car96** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:25 pm

John, do you have any Henry Adventurebilt's left? I couldn't find photos on your website / facebook.
Also, can you please help me determine the price range of a Raiders style Beaver felt. Website shows $450 - $525 but how is as low as 450 but as high as 525?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:31 pm

car96 wrote:John, do you have any Henry Adventurebilt's left? I couldn't find photos on your website / facebook.
Also, can you please help me determine the price range of a Raiders style Beaver felt. Website shows $450 - $525 but how is as low as 450 but as high as 525?

- I have two grey Henry left 59cm
- If you go to the Indy page you will see all prices posted.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:51 pm

Just wanted to share this with everyone here.

http://www.michaelrookeronline.com/phot ... a-premiere" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:57 pm

BendingOak wrote:Just wanted to share this with everyone here.

http://www.michaelrookeronline.com/phot ... a-premiere" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thats awesome! He was great in Tombstone and Walking Dead. Nice work! I need to ask, do you watch Walking Dead?

Also, I'm very seriously considering a new hat and I want to get one of yours. Do you have any advice for me as far as sizing? Here is my dilemma. I usually have short hair, but in the winter I let it get longer. (Not substantial, but enough to make my hats sized when I had a buzz feel tight). I know you send out a measuring tape to measure a few times. Would you recommend measuring and ordering when my hair is longer? I know, pretty stupid question/ predicament. Thanks for any help.

Chris

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BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:31 pm

Yes, my kid and I watch it every week. It was nice working with Mr. Rooker. I have seen him in a bunch of stuff and he was great in TWD. He is a really nice personable guy.

as for the measurements. never a stupid question. It depends on a few things. I do send out crowns but am refining a even better system. you guys should know me by now, I'm always looking for better ways of making the process better and better. I think a phone call might be a good step as things can get lost in the written word sometimes. heres my number 971-246-1832. feel free.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:50 pm

BendingOak wrote:Yes, my kid and I watch it every week. It was nice working with Mr. Rooker. I have seen him in a bunch of stuff and he was great in TWD. He is a really nice personable guy.

as for the measurements. never a stupid question. It depends on a few things. I do send out crowns but am refining a even better system. you guys should know me by now, I'm always looking for better ways of making the process better and better. I think a phone call might be a good step as things can get lost in the written word sometimes. heres my number 971-246-1832. feel free.

Much appreciated! Let me clear things with the boss... ahem wife. But having just had a birthday, i think ill be alright.

I dont wanna waste your time on a phone call only to get vetoed about the purchase. Thanks again for the help.

To add, im also having a TERRIBLE time deciding on felt, and between Raiders and Crusade. I already have a Raiders, but boy the Crusader looks so awesome.

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BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:30 pm

Don't worry about wasting my time, always good to chat with fellow fans of Indy. I have a bluetooth ear piece so I can chat and work at the same time. Helps with sewing a lot.

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:34 pm

ChrisMD wrote:
BendingOak wrote:Yes, my kid and I watch it every week. It was nice working with Mr. Rooker. I have seen him in a bunch of stuff and he was great in TWD. He is a really nice personable guy.

as for the measurements. never a stupid question. It depends on a few things. I do send out crowns but am refining a even better system. you guys should know me by now, I'm always looking for better ways of making the process better and better. I think a phone call might be a good step as things can get lost in the written word sometimes. heres my number 971-246-1832. feel free.
Much appreciated! Let me clear things with the boss... ahem wife. But having just had a birthday, i think ill be alright. I dont wanna waste your time on a phone call only to get vetoed about the purchase. Thanks again for the help.

To add, im also having a TERRIBLE time deciding on felt, and between Raiders and Crusade. I already have a Raiders, but boy the Crusader looks so awesome.

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For what it's worth -- John makes the best 'Crusade' on the planet! Trust me! W>

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:36 pm

Im beginning to lean pretty far toward Last Crusade. John, what scene would you say screams Last Crusade as far as the hat? Im gonna watch tonight and pick some favorites.

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BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:59 pm

I'm like most, like the pier scene but it's hard to nail down all the looks because that hat specs seem to change from scene to scene.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:38 am

BendingOak wrote:I'm like most, like the pier scene but it's hard to nail down all the looks because that hat specs seem to change from scene to scene.

That's what I've been noticing. It also seems to get smashed up quite a few times in LC too with visible dents and such. I never noticed this stuff until I started scrutinizing to buy one. I guess I'd like something that says LC quite loudly. It seems my Raiders hat or any well made Raiders hat for that matter is almost unmistakeable and universally noticed as Indy. I also feel that way about LC, however not quite as much.

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IndyJames · Post by **IndyJames** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:31 am

You can never go wrong with one of John's hats.

R u sure you do not want Fords lord Clarence mcdonald hat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiZ8D9akdV4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thats a link to the hat I am talking about

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:46 am

james73084 wrote:You can never go wrong with one of John's hats.

R u sure you do not want Fords lord Clarence mcdonald hat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiZ8D9akdV4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thats a link to the hat I am talking about

Love it! Classic scene!

Was the LC fedora Rabbit like Raiders? Or beaver...?

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Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:54 am

If memory serves, the LC was rabbit.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:01 am

Indiana Jeff wrote:If memory serves, the LC was rabbit.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Ok thanks. How come people order beaver over rabbit if the movie hats were rabbit? Ive never owned a beaver fedora, only inexpensive part beaver cowboy hats. So I'm curious what im missing out on. Im interested now.....you bunch of enablers.

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Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:27 am

In general beaver felt is a higher quality felt compared to rabbit felt. The beaver hairs are smaller with barbs so it felts tighter/denser. It will hold up better to wet weather.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:40 am

I also think beaver gives a dressier finish. The fedora I wear with regularity is an hat that was made for me for Art Fawcett based on a hat my grandfather used to wear. It was a dress hat that he wore the bejeebus out of, so I opted for beaver felt.

I'm in the process of shopping for a Raiders lid. When I get that, it will be rabbit. To me beaver just feels too dressy for IJ. But that's just my $0.02..

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:51 am

I hear that a lot about how beaver is dressier than rabbit. I think that has more to do with the pounce than the felt itself.

Granted beaver can take longer than rabbit to break in and get super floppy, but that can also be influenced by the amount of stiffener in the felt. My Sahara colored AB is beaver and has broken in so nicely it flaps in the wind like Indy on horseback in ROLA.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:04 am

That is true! I guess I have just never seen a rougher pounce on beaver felt. My VS is smooth as a baby's bottom and the softest felt I've ever touched. Perfect for what I wanted, but IMO too nice for an Indy.

Of course, a KOTCS hat is beaver but I try to suppress that movie from my memory.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:13 am

Not to run too far afield in this thread, but I have both rabbit and beaver hats with various pounces with some rabbit being smoother than some beaver. My AB ROLA in beaver that was made by Steve and reblocked by Marc is super smooth. The a fore mentioned Sahara AB is less smooth than one of my rabbit hats. Not that any of them are shaggy dogs, but I consider my Sahara less 'dressy' than my two rabbit hats because the pounce is a bit longer.

Meanwhile, back at the thread......

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:16 am

smooth pounce doesn't = dress hat. take the satin finished hats for example. the finish on a satin finished hat is a very long finished hat and at times is considered more dressy then a shorter finished hat that most here are used to.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:22 am

Just my opinion.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:29 am

ChrisMD wrote: How come people order beaver over rabbit if the movie hats were rabbit?

That's almost one of those "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand" things.

The simple answer, though, is because I prefer it.

The slightly longer answer is that, in general, beaver felt is a lot nicer than rabbit. I has a denser feel, it's softer, it shapes and reacts better, holds its shape better, stands up to the weather better, tapers less quickly, lasts longer . . .

Personally, while fully understanding where the costume folks got the hats in the 1970s and 1980s, (and what was, and was not readily available at that time) I am pretty sure that a guy who had a PhD and a teaching position in the 1930s, with that background, and who according to the original descriptions was supposed to be a kind of 1930s James Bond who liked really nice things would have had beaver felt, instead of rabbit. At least that's part of my rationalization for spending $500 +/- for something that does basically the same job as one of those canvas camo things my friends get for $20.00.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:53 pm

So i guess i have alot of thinking to do

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david_h · Post by **david_h** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:56 pm

Penman hats? I was enjoying wearing my Casablanca today (the Charcoal beaver felt is fantastic) in the early spring sunshine.

MarCuseus · Post by **MarCuseus** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:02 am

I am working on a LC costume, but I think I'm going to go with a Raiders styled fedora.
Is it still a 3 month wait?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:53 am

Not sure about the wait, but as to mix matching the gear our own Tundrarider said it best in another thread...

Tundrarider wrote:If I may be so bold, please allow me to make a suggestion. Don't concern yourself with trying to match your gear to one of four films.

Attempting to get all your gear to match one movie will limit your choices and quite honestly take some of the fun out of your costuming venture. You can get lost in the details that no one will notice anyhow.

The gear from all four films "mix and match" perfectly" with each other.

I went this route and put together a decent outfit, enjoying the freedom to pick and choose each piece of gear simply by it's own merit. For example, I like the Raiders gun belt best, but also like the Crystal Skull holster best. And they work great together, simply as "Indy Gear."

The gear all works together; nothing is ever going to "clash" if you mix your gear choices

Michael

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:20 am

MarCuseus wrote:I am working on a LC costume, but I think I'm going to go with a Raiders styled fedora.
Is it still a 3 month wait?

Sounds about right, but the only truly reliable source of that information is John Penman. You can email him at info@penmanhats.com or call him at 971-246-1832.

MarCuseus · Post by **MarCuseus** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:40 am

Ridgerunner58 wrote:
MarCuseus wrote:I am working on a LC costume, but I think I'm going to go with a Raiders styled fedora.
Is it still a 3 month wait?
Sounds about right, but the only truly reliable source of that information is John Penman. You can email him at info@penmanhats.com or call him at 971-246-1832.

I'm not in a rush

Also waiting to check out Mr Penman's new felt

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:02 am

MarCuseus wrote:
Ridgerunner58 wrote:
MarCuseus wrote:I am working on a LC costume, but I think I'm going to go with a Raiders styled fedora.
Is it still a 3 month wait?
Sounds about right, but the only truly reliable source of that information is John Penman. You can email him at info@penmanhats.com or call him at 971-246-1832.
I'm not in a rush Also waiting to check out Mr Penman's new felt

Thats the spirit. Waiting for a hat is painful. All you wanna do is wear the darn thing. But if your got it quickly, its not a great hat! And that wonderful day when you get that big box....well its a LOT of fun. Like Christmas!

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BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:39 am

Estimated time is 2-3 months and working hard to get it down even more.

As for which gear to shoot for. It's all in every individual taste. Some like to shoot for one movie and others like to a overall Indy look. Some like to do each and every movie. It's all up to you. I guess you can always start with a oval all look and then start working on each film.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:07 pm

MarCuseus wrote: . . . Also waiting to check out Mr Penman's new felt

You're in good company there.

micsteam · Post by **micsteam** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:46 pm

Just to get back to slightly earlier questions, the fedoras for the first three movies were Herbert Johnson rabbit and the last movie was AB beaver. Just fot knowledge.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:49 pm

That's correct. The raiders was a custom John as th next two were stock HJ.

jnicktem · Post by **jnicktem** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:03 pm

I think you meant a custom job. I know you're special John... But come on... Custom?!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:03 pm

jnicktem wrote:I think you meant a custom job. I know you're special John... But come on... Custom?!

that's funny. Yes, custom job.

DarenHenryW · Post by **DarenHenryW** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:23 pm

Definitely looking forward to getting my hands on mine.

Daren Henry W