Bill Kelso's Relic Hunter

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:06 am

Indymasillia, you've been here 2 months and only now decide to post so you can stir the pot? Kind of an odd way to start your membership over here.

I see you're a lot more active on other sites. Eitherway this conversation is between two people and you're not one of them. We asked that this subject be left alone and Kredepops has been more than hospitable to you in my opinion for bringing this up again.

Leave it alone and let these two deal with it.

Consider this is a second warning.

indymassilia · Post by **indymassilia** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:39 am

Yes, Concentrate now on the subject,the Bill Kelso Relic Hunter jacket in striated lambskin!
First wave of pictures,the details $\:D/$ :

-Details from the striated leather,i ask to BK to fit the jacket with the most thick and striated leather they have in stock:

-The number serie is the 001/1981,i find it in the inside lining of the inside pocket:

-The zip is a ligth alloy YKK N°5:

-detail of the right pocket ,you can see the Bk trademark label company:

..a more close detail look:

Send very soon another pictures of this beauty!

MOD EDIT: No, you've had your 6. Please follow the posted rule regarding photos.
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Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:51 am

Wow. That ... Is ... Quite ... A. ... Jacket !!!!!

Really, that is beautiful. Thanks for writing where they're numbered. Very cool. Really looking forward to seeing these in person. (By the way Indymassilia, really like your Marion sketch. I think it's awfully hard to capture Karen Allen's Raiders personality and you've really done it.)

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:47 pm

From looking at these pictures, and I know they could be misleading, but the jacket looks as if it has gussets. Does the Kelso have gussets? W>

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:22 pm

Just curious, indymassilia, are you the same George Massilia who is one of the named Bill Kelso partners, located in France?

If so, then you having 001 or 1981 makes perfect sense, as in my personal experience the first few production jackets usually go to either an owner, partner, or special friends of the company before going into full production.

Like I said, just curious.

Regards! Michaelson

indymassilia · Post by **indymassilia** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:46 am

AHAHAH!i'm going to answer every question ,i have no secret for everyone!
It's real that i 'm a new member on this forum,and it's like i'm jump out of my box,i hope i don't scare anybody...
Thanks to your compliments Tibor,Marion is not a easy character to draw,i have to restart a few time the drawing,nobody's perfect..
Hi Wconly,yes the Bill Kelso jacket have gussets ,soon i will post the pictures of it..
Hi Michaelson,yes i'm also GeorgeMassilia,and i'm in reality the big boss of the Bill Kelso company...!!!
No,i'm joking of course("humour marseillais")...i'm no affiliated in any kind with BK company,to speak the truth i had spare money to buy a great Tony Nowak raiders jacket on the second hand market ( i'm still want a TN raiders,but the money is gone to BK now..),and i'm waiting to see the first pictures of owners of the BK jacket(thanks to Christian and Gorak..) before "pull the trigger" at BK..
Like CRB,i would prefer a dark brown color,i asked some samples of the authentic brown to BK,and when i received them i know i don't have to wait
they put the dark brown leather available...because the authentic brown striated color was perfect,not to bright,not to dark,and a dull-mat ,not shiny texture,well perfect!
For the story of the serial number,you're plobably right for others company...in fact the number 001 must go to Christian(first owner of the jacket)but he prefered the number 000,so the number 001 was free(i readed it on Fortune& Glory forum in fact) and i take the opportunity and like nobody get it ,i had the great chance to buy the 001 /1981 jacket,that's all!
You know,if i must be a french partner ,friend ,dealer of a leather company in Indiana Jones production jackets,it will surely be the Wested leather company who i had bought to them at least 30 jackets of Indiana Jones in my life !!!
I gave to Wested a lot of money,but Indy jacket are one of my passion so i spended without counting the cost

Hope it answer to your question...

Second Wave of pictures! MOD EDIT: ONLY SIX PHOTOS TOTAL IN THREAD BY THE SAME MEMBER, PER SITE RULES: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=41780

-lining brown cotton silesia,a brown much lighter than the leather color:
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-the collar:
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-the "Bermans & Nathans "label,under there is a free space where you can write your name,name of the movie,actor,etc...a very cool idea:
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t49 ... a/BK3j.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-left leather side straps,you will notice the black (dull-flat black,not gloss black)metal buckle:
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t49 ... a/BK3h.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-right leather side straps,nice stitching in K-box style on the side back and not on the front side:
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http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t49 ... a/BK4a.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Soon ,a new bunch of pictures... MOD EDIT--see: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=41780

You will not post more then SIX photos per thread (not per post). Not to exceed 640x480 pixels. You can also post UP TO SIX ADDITIONAL LINKS to photos as well. Again, per thread, not per post. We highly recommend having ONE LINK to a page offsite to either your web page or hosting service where the remainder of your photos are for viewing.

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:44 am

indymassilia, nice jacket, put your photos up on filmjackets.com. We'd all like to see them there.

indymassilia · Post by **indymassilia** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:44 am

Ah! sorry ...i'm going to give HTTP links.

Mod edit: Since repeated warning have been given and ignored regarding the long posted rule regarding photos at Indygear.com, any additional links and photos regarding this topic by this writer from this point on will be removed with no further comment.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:51 am

...too many links! You should sit this one out, IM. Take a breather. Down some of this Gator Aide. You're getting too fond of your jacket, I think!

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:09 pm

I can't wait to see more of these. I really wanna see one in goat.
Anyone ordered on in goat yet?

C

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:06 pm

Very nice jacket.

Don't have the dough yet for one.

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:51 am

Mine has finally arrived. Very nice.
Too scared to post many photos on this thread ... I've got a full review over at filmjackets.com

Bill Kelso Relic Hunter review

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:55 am

I sure would like to see pics on here, CRB? You're allowed 6....?

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:10 pm

CRB wrote: Mine has finally arrived. Very nice.
Too scared to post many photos on this thread ... I've got a full review over at filmjackets.com

Yep, you probably should since everyone wants to say how evil the rulers of this place are. I know you want it to look like the Mods here are such jerks because we only let a "member" post 6 pics per thread. And it's a set number the "member" agrees to when joining, since it's mentioned in the Rules section. It's only been broken numerous times in this thread alone and the rules been posted as much.

Making people abide by rules they agreed to... Yeah, we're evil

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:31 pm

I would have liked to read the review, but since I don't want to register at Film Jackets I guess I'm out of luck, unless of course you post it here too.

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:18 pm

well, as stated earlier by the Mod, your allowed to post 6 pictures and 6 picture links and on top of that another link to a of site gallery where you can have thousands of pictures.

Sometimes I wonder how many pictures is needed on a review if you can't do with with ''12'' pluss a gallery.

singsingjohnny · Post by **singsingjohnny** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:53 pm

The review on filmjackets contains 6 pics...er, wha?

orb · Post by **orb** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:42 am

OK there is my BK Relic Hunter jacket in size 38:

#612 of 1981

June 12 1981 was the release date of ROTLA

I will post some pics wearing it very soon. Best jacket since TNO!

Cheers

orb

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:00 am

Great looking jacket Orb. You're Nowak Goat has always been my all time favorite. Can you do a side by side shot with that one to compare?

-The Dude

orb · Post by **orb** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:32 am

Thanks Dude!

Gorak is the latest owner (I guess?) of my ex Nowak Goat.
My only Indy Jacket is the new Kelso.

orb

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:22 pm

Thanks for posting the pics. That is one great looking jacket. I look forward to seeing more shots of it.

Has anyone ordered one in the grainy lamb?

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:17 am

Hey Orb..that looks really good. Did you feel that it was "broken in" right outa the box? Mine totally felt that way and every time I put it on, it feels as if I have had it forever.

I still have the Nowak Goat. Too heavy for regular wear but still one of the best SA jackets out there in my opinion.

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singsingjohnny · Post by **singsingjohnny** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:23 pm

Gorak, LOVE your jacket, it's giving me the itch to get one myself...just one question, is yours the Authentic Brown?

Congrats and wear in good health!

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:48 am

singsingjohnny- yes sir, it is the regular Authentic Brown Straited Lamb with little to no stiations requested! Definitely more screen accurate than any of the darker lambs ever offered by any vendor in my opinion. Especially to Raiders!

singsingjohnny · Post by **singsingjohnny** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:51 am

Cool, thanks man, just wanted to confirm...I love my Expo, but it sometimes seems a bit too dark for my tastes.

Agreed, I think it really nails the Raiders look and I love it! The Raiders jacket seemed to fluctuate from a brown to black-ish during the course of the movie, due to lighting (I'm guessing...), but this jacket just looks the part. And although I love all the Nowaks I've owned, I do feel that they are a bit heavy for me, even in Michigan!

I've got a sizing inquiry in with BK (I wear a 50 and broad shoulders)...if that works, I'll be selling some other jackets and picking this up, definitely.

Thanks for all the pics, really helped me decide whether or not to pursue a Relic Hunter!

- Mark

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:56 pm

It definitely closed that chapter for me in the jacket quest. I am down to three jackets left to sell before all I will have will be this jewel!

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:44 am

I found my BK a bit too baggy in the arms to be perfect, my TNO has much slimmer arms. So I had them taken in a bit. Wow, what a difference - it's like a whole new jacket. The slimmer arms totally transforms the way the jacket holds together and pulls on the body. It's perfect now - can't recommend this enough.

trdaggers · Post by **trdaggers** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:46 pm

I fought it the best I could but you guys just kept raving about this jacket so I bit the bullet and ordered one. I guess you only live once.

Gailen

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:05 am

trdaggers?...chances are....your gonna love it!

trdaggers · Post by **trdaggers** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:15 am

I'm sure your right. I just wished I lived up north since Florida is not the best climate to wear these jackets in. I'll do some side by side pictures with one of my TN jackets when I get it.

Gailen

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:21 pm

As is probly well known by now, I live in South Texas where it is hot and humid most of the year and since I have received my Kelso, I have worn it plenty much in these summer days. It is doable in this type of weather...like a real Indy jacket should be!

RaidersBash · Post by **RaidersBash** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:13 am

So what are these running? About $450 or so for the veg tanned and $750 in the str. lamb?

Just want to make sure my numbers are right.

trdaggers · Post by **trdaggers** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:48 am

About $812 with shipping for the Ser Lamp in USA.

Gailen

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:44 pm

trdaggers wrote:About $812 with shipping for the Ser Lamp in USA.

Gailen

What's a Ser Lamp?

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:09 am

It's a lot of money, that's what it is!

WConly · Post by **WConly** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:15 am

JC1972 wrote:
trdaggers wrote:About $812 with shipping for the Ser Lamp in USA.

Gailen
What's a Ser Lamp?

I think he is referring to the Striated Lambskin that Kelso offers as one of the choices of leather. W>

CM · Post by CM » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:29 am

Expensive. Nice thing but I'm staying with my G&B goat.

trdaggers · Post by **trdaggers** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:27 am

CM wrote:Expensive. Nice thing but I'm staying with my G&B goat.

Your probably doing the right thing. You've got more sence then me.

Gailen

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:50 pm

WConly wrote:
JC1972 wrote:
trdaggers wrote:About $812 with shipping for the Ser Lamp in USA.

Gailen
What's a Ser Lamp?

I think he is referring to the Striated Lambskin that Kelso offers as one of the choices of leather. W>

Oh, striated lamb! I really need more sleep.

trdaggers · Post by **trdaggers** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:24 pm

Know, you don't need more sleep, you just need a guy who can spell (me).

Gailen

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:59 pm

...Kelso 006 has arrived!

Details to follow....

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:23 am

$\:D/$

Can't wait to see what you've got to show, TS!

ltfoley · Post by **ltfoley** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:03 pm

Hello all indy fan! First post here!
I have ordered a size 40 grainy lamb, should receive it soon! Can't wait!
I have a little doubt about the size, hope it will fit!! I'll post some pics when i have it.

indyhan · Post by **indyhan** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:11 am

ltfoley wrote:Hello all indy fan! First post here!
I have ordered a size 40 grainy lamb, should receive it soon! Can't wait!
I have a little doubt about the size, hope it will fit!! I'll post some pics when i have it.

hey Itfoley

nice to see a fellow lillois in this community !

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:17 am

Got my Bill Kelso Jacket several weeks back, but it was just before I had to leave town for 3 weeks.
I'm back now, of course, but a BUSY week of neglected work was waiting for me.
Point being, it was my hope to get some good photos taken and write some words of praise for how very, very impressed I am with this jacket... but the work overlap prevented me from posting anything any earlier. The free time to do so simply hadn't presented itself.

All that said, the shortest possible review I could write would likely read that for ME it's the single best Raiders Jacket (in every possible way that it could be) that I have ever owned.
It's hard, though, to write even a few gushy words about this jacket without feeling like I'm turning a blind eye to the disagreements and "static" that first heralded the arrival of this new jacket offering. I truly hope that all of the Bill Kelso-related issues and concerns can be ironed out or corrected over time to everyone's satisfaction, because for as much as there truly were matters to discuss and debate and worry over, the jacket that's been produced by this company is truly something special.

Anyway, I do still intend to write a short love letter to this jacket about it's specifics... but I'm afraid even now I'm running out of free time so I'll just offer up this little collection of somewhat unique (for me, anyway) photos.

One of the things I've always loved finding in a good Indy jacket is when the leather has a smoothness and relaxed softness that allows it to (for lack of a better word) "swing" ...There's plenty of action-packed scenes in Raiders when Indy is twisting this way & that, turning suddenly and throwing punches (Flying Wing fight) and as long as his jacket isn't zipped up a bit (Raven Bar) the jacket is in full-blown, full-swing "ready to fly OFF his back" - mode.

I love that.

For me, if it's gonna be a good Indy Jacket, it's gotta have that SWING.

So anyway, at one point this past weekend I was wearing my new jacket and my wife commented on how nice and soft the leather feels, so I mentioned how I liked how this characteristic contributed not only to the way the jacket drapes but also how it swings (and then told her the same thing I just wrote in the paragraph above)
As it happened, my wife had our camera with her, so even though we didn't have the time and opportunity to do the photos I'd still like to eventually do to accompany a little write-up, there was time for me to throw a few air-punches for the camera to try and capture what I'm talking about.

Here then, at least, are a few of the photos we had some quick fun in taking: a little collection I call "It Don't Mean a Thing..."
Hope you like 'em.

(Oh yeah... And once we'd finished taking those photos I asked my wife to grab a quick shot of the front right - my right - panel of the jacket to try and capture the look of the grain ...The jacket looks a little "gray" in some of these shots, but I assure you it's nice & brown in person)

All the Best,
Mitch

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:10 pm

Mitch looks awesome! That back shot really looks full on Raiders. What size did you order? Any changes in measurements at all?

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:11 pm

Thanks, man. It's just a straight Size 42 with no changes whatsoever in measurements.
It IS what I'd call a tiny bit big on me (mostly in the length of the arms), but I figure that between the little bit of arm-length you lose when the arm creases start to define themselves and the way leather itself can shrink up a little over time (and good or bad, I've never run from getting a little rain on my jacket), that I'll be all right in the long run.

It is one, soft, beautiful, comfortable leather, though, I've gotta tell ya.

trdaggers · Post by **trdaggers** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:41 pm

Is it numbered inside?

Gailen

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:26 pm

Looks like a nowak to me.

great fit!

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:34 pm

Mitch, that is one heck of a beautiful jacket. I agree with you completely that it's gotta have the swing. I love that shot of the back. It looks like that jacket really tapers from the shoulders to the waist, or do you just have the straps cinched tight? I look forward to seeing more shots of it

Wear it in good health!