Wested cut; big/small?

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:58 pm

Sorry to bother yet again but the other night my wife says to me "If you want to oreder your Wested NOW would be a good time". So I raced off to my computer to get the order in before she had the chance to fully embrace the horror of her actions. When done, I was feeling like THE MAN himself. However, today I had a thought tugging at the corner of my mind and hope that someone could set me at ease.

When I ordered I opted to size up because I recall reading that Westeds ran small. Is this true or am I faulted in my thinking? I have a G&B 44reg Expo and went with a 46reg in the Wested (Both in Goat). Did I do the right thing? HELP!

Blue Skies,
Soulman

JerseyJones · Post by **JerseyJones** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:09 pm

Well, I ordered a 54 and sent in my tailor measurements and a photo and got mine spot on. I would advise that you call Wested, ask them to hold off for a day or two and get your measurements taken at a good tailor, then send them to Peter or Gerry so they can work with that.

My .02

Peace
Ken

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:13 pm

I think you will be fine. I don't have as much experience with Wested as some people here have, as I just recently purchased one. I have suits that fit me that are 44 long, they fit snug, not loose. So I ordered a 46 but with the length of a 44 long. Length in mine is fine. It fits like a glove. If it was any smaller, it would not fit. I wonder what would happen if I ordered two sizes up. I think mine fits the way this style jacket should. But, for ordering a size up to accomodate wearing layers under it, mine doesn't have enough room for that.

Trevelyan · Post by **Trevelyan** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:57 pm

I agree with JerseyJones. Wested works like a custom tailor, so the best way to ensure your fit is to send measurements taken by a professional tailor, and then explain to Peter how you want it to fit. Luckily, I fit perfectly well in a 40L, so I didn't have much trouble in ordering mine. I have noticed since then though that my right arm is slightly longer than my left, not long enough to be a problem, but I find it strange.

Post by **Ken** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:17 pm

Personally I have had contrary experience to most people. As I understand it the general consensus is that Westeds run spot on or slightly on the small size (ie - tight/military fit). However I found my most recent Wested to be a little on the large size (just around the waist). I am hoping to see if Peter can fix it for me. I am going to go down to London soon and will see if I can call in and get his opinion.

Ken

Post by **Mike** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:58 pm

Well, aside from Ken's apparent hourglass figure (

), by today's standards of wearing everything so big if falls around your ankles, I'd say yes, Wested would seem a tight fit. But it's a proper fit in most cases if measured correctly. I'd suggest, as others have, get your measurements down, then ask for things like dropping the sleeves or allowing extra chest/shoulder space to accomodate bulkier clothes if that's what you're opting for.

Mike

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:12 pm

I would say that Wested is a slim fit. The European cut in most things is slimmer. We Americans like big baggy cuts, even in our suits. Of course I am generalizing here, but clothes in the UK are generally built around a more slender silhouette. Peter is very accommodating, so if you specify what you want, I am sure he will deliver.

Post by **Ken** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:47 pm

Mike wrote:Well, aside from Ken's apparent hourglass figure ( ), by today's standards of wearing everything so big if falls around your ankles, I'd say yes, Wested would seem a tight fit. But it's a proper fit in most cases if measured correctly. I'd suggest, as others have, get your measurements down, then ask for things like dropping the sleeves or allowing extra chest/shoulder space to accomodate bulkier clothes if that's what you're opting for.

Mike

Oi!! :evil:

Seriously though the problem is more I am a (point down) triangle and the jacket is a square (hmm sounds like a philosophical rummination).

Ken

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:40 pm

Thanks to all! Your insight is truly valued
Blue Skies,
Soulman

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:43 pm

Bear in mind, Mike, that most of us American's ALSO have that hourglass figure. Unfortunately, most of the sand has gone to the bottom.

I honestly don't know how Peter is able to fit us as well as he does.

Regards. Michaelson

indybill · Post by **indybill** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:57 pm

The only place that I notice my jacket being a little too snug is
when I cross my arms the material across my back at the shoulders
limits how far I can cross them. I plan on addressing that issue
specifically on my next jacket. Otherwise it fits like a glove (literally).
Like others I find Peter's ability to make a jacket fit so well from the
few measurements he asks for nothing short of genius. I wouldn't mind
having another jacket a size up though for a looser fitting winter
jacket, or for around the holiday's when I pack on that extra few pounds
of 'stuffing'. Probably the best advice has already been given, and that is
give Peter your actual measurements and then tell him how snug or loose
you want it to fit in different areas.

Regards,
Indybill

MaxPlague · Post by **MaxPlague** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:48 pm

I wouldn't really call it a small or large cut...I'd call them "perfectly cut."

You should be fine, but you might want to shoot an email to Peter and discuss it with him, he's great on sizing advice. I can wear 42reg and 44reg jackets, but the 42s are always a bit more snug. I "sized up" and I ordered my Wested in a 44reg and it fits me perfectly!

The other members are right though, they are patterned for a trim body type, which I am. But basically, if you order for your size (or one size up) you should be ok.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:45 pm

Max Plague, you got your jacket already too? What the freakin flip???
I orderded mine on the 26th of January
I gotta call Wested again

IndianaGuybrush · Post by **IndianaGuybrush** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:19 pm

IndyBlues, I'm sure Wested is working on your jacket and I think the only thing repeated calls are goign to do is agitate them. As it turns out, the reason I got mine was most likely because my measurements are almost identical to most 48 size jackets. Maybe yours recquired more tailoring, who knows. As it stands, what would you prefer, a jacket done quick or a jacket done right?

I'm sure they don't have anything personally against you and if you called them as recently as Saturday I'm sure they haven't lost your order. Short of buy a ticket to the UK and visit them yourself there is not much more you can do. I know you've been waiting longer than some of use had to wait, but rest assured, it's coming.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:24 pm

I hear you, I'm starting to become annoying with this. I'm actually going to wait until this Saturday, and if I don't get it, I'll give them a call Monday morning. I definately want it done right. I'm sure I'll be wearing it in a short time

MaxPlague · Post by **MaxPlague** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:33 pm

Yeah, but mine was pretty much "off the rack" though. Just a standard size, I'm very fortunate for that. I'm guessing it was ready to go before I ever ordered it. Peter and Gerry are great blokes, I'm sure they're doing the best they can to get your's to ya.

cknight · Post by **cknight** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:54 pm

The chest/torso of mine was about perfect, but he armholes were too small. I could barely get my arms through if I was wearing anything more than a T-shirt. I had to send it back

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If you have big arms/shoulders I would recommend getting the arm holes increased by an inch or two.

Henry Jones Sr. · Post by **Henry Jones Sr.** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:31 pm

One thing I might suggest, and which in my personal case added up to what I would call a perfect fitting Wested for me, would be to go to a reputable tailor or costumer, and spend the time (and/or a bit of money) to get a complete set of measurements. when I had a Union Civil War militia shell jacket custom made for me a couple of years ago, these measurements were actually required by the manufacturer (The Quartermaster Shop), and are maintained on file there for future purchases.

Last summer, on our way down to the Queen Mary Summit, my fiancee Mary (Maryon Ravenwood) and I stopped through the Bay Area, where we met with Elizabeth Galeria, owner of The Magic Wardrobe, a costume shop (with a marvelous website!). Elizabeth spent about half an hour with each of us, taking dozens of measurements. We now have those on file, and know how to have those measurements changed as we go through those "hourglass figure" redistribution changes Michaelson alluded to earlier

.

Anyway, to make a long story short, for any Gearheads interested in anything from Fedoras to Aldens, a full set of tailor's measurements are well worth the time and effort.

Sincere regards,

Henry Jones, Sr.