Shawl-Necked Cardigan

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:10 am

Can anyone point me toward the shuffle board or knitting circle?

These are the threads my Bride laughs at me over.

"Aren't you guys all interested in the rugged manly nature of the character?"

"Of course, My Sweet, but a good shawl neck cardigan keeps you toasty warm in the winter too."

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:01 am

HEY!

You can let your lady know that just yesterday morning I ate a meal that consisted of egg mixed with leather, sawdust, sandpaper, snakemeat and burlap seasoned with Old Spice...

Sure, it also had cheese in it and was technically a quiche with a delightfully flakey crust, but...
Hey, what are you all grinning about?

Aaaanyway, HERE's the dish on my latest yummy sweater find (*squeal*)

Seriously, though... Stumbled across this a little while ago...

If you wear either an XL or an XXL, go to Amazon.com and Search under "Ben Sherman Men's Long Sleeve Shawl Collar Sweater"

It's a pretty nice looking Close Enough in a color I love called "Almond Marl"...
No mention of exactly what material it IS, though... but it sure looks pretty good.

I'm the wrong size for this, so it doesn't help me, but I hope it helps one of you fellas...

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:10 am

Ooooo, do pass along that quiche recipe.

Um,

I'll be over here if you need me.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:25 am

Well, they're just now starting to clear out the summer stuff and stock the fall stuff, so if they're coming out this year in the stores, it will be within the next few weeks.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:02 am

Mitch LaRue wrote:HEY!

If you wear either an XL or an XXL, go to Amazon.com and Search under "Ben Sherman Men's Long Sleeve Shawl Collar Sweater"

It's a pretty nice looking Close Enough in a color I love called "Almond Marl"...
No mention of exactly what material it IS, though... but it sure looks pretty good.

It says 'wool' at the first bullet point near the bottom.

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:05 am

Also, one reviewer says they are 'woefully undersized. easily two sizes smaller than advertised,' so if you wear a medium, the XL, or maybe even the XXL, will fit you.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:35 pm

Kohls has this offering, in grey only. Haven't seen it yet in store, has anyone else?

http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/zbrands ... rdigan.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Croft

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:49 pm

The Kohl's in town has little to no winter sweaters in stock yet. I'm sure they'll be roling them out in the next couple of weeks though. I wish I would have gotten the one they offered last year though. Hopefully, it or something more S/A will come around this year.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:29 am

Old Nazi(old navy) has them. I havent checked yet to see if they are terrible yet.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:23 pm

This doesn't look to bad, kinda like the patches on the elbows. My duluth (I think it's a Dulth) is a tad thicker at the batck of the neck, sorta pushes my head forward when wearing the jacket.

Heres the O.D. one.
http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.d ... =174161002" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Croft

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:15 pm

Hi guys,
I’ve got a couple of possibilities here to pass along… including the one I’ve settled on (just placed my order, in fact!)

When all is said and done, it captures what I’m looking for in my own take on this look.

The first is a tip about an ebay auction that’s happening right now:
Go to ebay and type in “Ralph Lauren mens rugby cardigan sweater large $128 nwt”
Assuming it's till available, it’ll take you to an auction for a pretty nice Ralph Lauren version of this sweater… Someone in Florida is asking $99.99 for it.

The other cardigan is produced by Canterbury of New Zealand…
First, here’s the SCENIC Route:
Go to their website at http://www.canterburynzusa.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Once there, a little down the left side of the page you’ll see “Sweaters & Fleece” under the heading of “LIFESTYLE MEN’S”…
Click on that and it will take you to a page showing you a selection of Sweaters & Cardigans including one called a “Jack Shawl” that’s been marked down from $168.00 to $126.00 …
Click on the picture and it will take you to the next page where you can view the cardigan in either the Charcoal OR BROWN color simply by selecting the colors to the right of the photo.

The DIRECT Link to that page is HERE: http://www.canterburynzusa.com/JACK-SHA ... 51889.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(This is the version I’ve just ordered… Looking forward to seeing it in person!)
It will quote you a Shipping Cost the further you get into the purchase process, but the price it quoted me (but don’t QUOTE me) to ship to Maine was about 20 bucks on top of the total. Despite the exotic name, the distributor appears to be located in New Jersey.

Anyway, I hope these two leads might be helpful to some of you as well... Lemme know if it was!
Cheers!
Mitch

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:46 pm

Me likes. Nice find and thanks.
Will look foward to your review, Mitch.
Croft

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:01 pm

Hey guys...
Be advised that Drake's London also seems to have a couple of things... (but WOW, I don't know about you guys, but it's a bit outside my price-range)

http://www.drakes-london.com/knitwear/all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:37 pm

Croft

Adventure Dog · Post by **Adventure Dog** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:51 pm

Wonder why it's so expensive? Mammoth wool.

Thanks for the updates gents! I stopped by Kohls and didn't see a dang thing. I'll be looking! Be sure to hit us with updates when it comes in Mitch!

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:34 am

Guaranteed!

Christian Jones · Post by **Christian Jones** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:36 am

Adventure Dog wrote:Wonder why it's so expensive? Mammoth wool.

No, they say it's baby camel hair... Something Indy may have worn

.
Now, it's not in my price range either.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:49 am

Many thanks to Indiana Jeff for the heads up on this (just listed this morning in the Bazaar)...Hope someone can use it!

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=53424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:46 pm

Oh man, if that was two size's smaller, I'd snagged that. I recently inquired with Mr. magnoli on his "knit wear" and it won't be any time soon.

Croft

Adventure Dog · Post by **Adventure Dog** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:33 pm

Here is a gray one made from Merino wool and Nylon.
http://www.overstock.com/Clothing-Shoes ... oduct.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:16 pm

So Mitch, has yours shown up yet, curios as to your take. Don't mind spending some coin, but I trust your opinion.
Oh and was the S7H 20.00
Croft

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:21 pm

As it turns out, the Canterbury of New Zealand Cardigan is gonna take a little bit more time to get to me:
I'm up in the Great White North and they charge $60.00 to ship to Canada!

So I've got it going to my brother in Maine instead (for the cost of $20.00 S&H), who'll then pack it up and send it along to me in Nova Scotia for about 10 bucks.

There's the extra wait for me, but I'll save a little dough.

Funny thing is, the minute I found what I think is the right sweater for me, I found another one that I picked up as well!

I was out shopping with my wife when she pointed out the store called H&M, saying "like most other men's clothing stores, they're not only following the trend of epaulettes and military styles in their menswear that finally put you BACK in Style, but they're also likely going to carry shawl-neck cardigans since those have started showing up in movies & shows like X-Men First Class and MadMen... Did you want to go in and check?"

I did go in and sure enough, found this:

Without Flash:

With Flash:

Really LOVE the color of this one! Seems to match -quite nicely- the color I seem to be seeing on the one Ford wears in MOTB.

So, when all is said and done it looks like I'll have a couple of “close-enoughs” to choose from!
Not bad considering a few weeks back I was assuming this would be my second winter of wanting this extra layer but not HAVING it.

Cheers!

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:45 pm

Thanks for the heads-up on this sweater Mitch. I found it today at the H&M store in downtown D.C.

I had no plans on getting it today but it was 1 block away from the Alden shop next to Ford's theatre so I literally walked into it. The color is more golden than brown IMO and it is a lot thinner that last years offer from Kohl's which makes me think it's going to work a lot better under the jacket. But the color

I might have to dye it darker, not sure yet. Post pics when I get home.

-TS

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:32 pm

Cool. Glad you (for the most part) seem to like it. I agree about how it being perhaps a bit thinner than what Ford wore but how that my be a better, more comfortable way to go.

Not sure if I agree about needing to darken it, though... the color in the shot above (with NO flash) looks pretty close to what I think I'm seeing in this photo below (despite color being such a very subjective thing)

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:36 pm

on second thought it looks spot on!!!

Thanks for posting that pic for the reaffirmation

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:42 pm

Cheers, my friend.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:52 am

MAN I love these sweaters, and not just to be SA. I wear this kind of sweater around the house just about year round, but ESPECIALLY this time of the year.

Still haven't come across one in my travels (as TS has proven, he had to leave Tennessee and find one in D.C.

).

Maybe my sister can make me one. She's currently the knitting czar of the family.....

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:57 pm

Thoughts any one on this one.

has some potential.

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/pr ... =876522002" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Croft

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:21 am

I had a sweater in the same thick fabric and pattern, big buttons, collar and all as what Ford's wearing in that pic back in the mid 80s. The only difference was it was a cream color with a brown geometric pattern on it. It got very hot wearing that garment as I recall. I can't remember wear I got it. When was that photo taken?

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Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:04 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:Thoughts any one on this one. has some potential.
http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/pr ... =876522002" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Croft

I'm glad you added that one, Croft... It's a good one to have in the List.
I actually tried on one of those about a month ago while in my local Banana Republic, but I hadn't seen it online.
Thanks

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:51 pm

Your welcome Mitch, well I went to my local Banana R and bought one, regulary 130.00, but this weekned and in the store only, there 40% off.
So a 130.000 shawl neck swaeter only cost me $78.00, a $52.00 dollar savings, couldn't pass it by. Tommorow I'll have the misses snap a shot, won't be all MOTB, but you'll get to see it.

Basically a light tan color, not the SA brown, but there still get others in so who knows.

Croft

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:09 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:Thoughts any one on this one. has some potential.

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/pr ... =876522002" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Croft

It doesn't appear to have a folded down collar, although it is knitted to appear that way.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:16 pm

Collar does stand upright so to speak, the site pic does look like the collar is sewn right to the sweater. I'll try to make that one of the pic's.

Croft

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:39 pm

While not MotB style this fit the Indy gear. I love the look.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx ... ds-_-83094

This ones 80% wool. Can wool be dyed easily?
http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11643435

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:23 am

I really like the looks of that Orvis sweater, too bad about the price though. If it were a bit cheaper I'd pick one up right away.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:44 am

As promised, here's some pic's the misses just took.
Tried on the Med & Sm back and fourth, back and fourth. And where I typicaly take a M, I opted for the S this time. Why you ask, let me explain. All my other cardigans when worn with the jacket hang to far past the jacket and I feel as though it should just be past the bottom. Just my nickels worth.

with collar up.

And with the jacket.

I'm pleased with my purchase and I'll be watch there site as they might be getting some darker ones soon.
Croft

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:26 pm

Has anyone figured out what vintage brand/model the MotB cardigan was? I've scanned numerous thread about this sweater and I see conversations, links and photos of only close enoughs. When was the pic of HF taken? I've never seen the video. The stuff on Netflix doesn't seem to have it.

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:26 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:As promised, here's some pic's the misses just took.
Tried on the Med & Sm back and fourth, back and fourth. And where I typicaly take a M, I opted for the S this time. Why you ask, let me explain. All my other cardigans when worn with the jacket hang to far past the jacket and I feel as though it should just be past the bottom. Just my nickels worth.

Croft, that's a great looking sweater (he says while checking his wallet).

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:35 pm

I wore it all day today at work, not exactly an inclosed area, but w/t-shirt and a summer long sleeve, I was quite comfortable, never once did I over heat. I imagine if I was to be moving around all, I'd be warm, we'll test that theory tommorrow night at Kohl's in the ol shoe dept.

Croft

RaidersBash · Post by **RaidersBash** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:31 pm

That's a GREAT color Croft, in general and for you!

What's the material make-up?

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:02 am

Raiderbash, this is whats on the inside label.

52% acrylic
48% wool

Croft

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:31 am

Great looking sweater, Croft... and -perhaps more importantly- as RB said, it looks really good ON you!

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:21 am

Croft, sweater looks good. I think you made the right call on the size.

lantzn wrote:Has anyone figured out what vintage brand/model the MotB cardigan was? I've scanned numerous thread about this sweater and I see conversations, links and photos of only close enoughs. When was the pic of HF taken? I've never seen the video. The stuff on Netflix doesn't seem to have it.

I don't think that's ever been discovered. The picture is from the Young Indy Chronicles TV show. The show was struggling with viewership so GL asked HF to make a cameo to bookend the Mystery of the Blues episode. HF was filming The Fugitive at the time, hence the beard. IIRC The Fugitive was released in 92 or 93.

Here's the bookends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfSHM0Ryvxg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:30 pm

Wow poor viewership is surprising. My wife and I didn't watch much tv during that time and so we are only now catching up on the episodes on Netflix. The production is amazing with some of the most beautiful scenery. Every episode feels like a movie. We are into season 3 now and love the series.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:09 pm

It started out on ABC, but when it failed to find it's audience (it was usually shown on a weeknight, and most kids weren't allowed to watch TV on those nights

), it was picked up by Family Channel.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:54 pm

Yeah, I remember watching one episode on a Friday night when it was first aired. Even then I thought what a dumb idea to show it then.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:20 am

GL's audience was definitely kids and hoped showing Indy as a child would attract them as well as their parents that had enjoyed the movies. He wanted to use the show as edu-tainment to teach kids about some of these historical figures and events, Forest Gump style, with Indy in on the action. I think though, as Michaelson and TS pointed out, the show aired too late on weeknights for the target kid audience to be reached. And the production values are very good, but that also made it very expensive to produce.

Based on interviews GL's has given since, in regard to producing TV shows, it seem GL took it personally when the show was cancelled. Hence the early days of the Clone Wars, he had at least a season's worth of episodes 'in the can' and sold them in mass so that whomever bought them would have already paid and have the incentive to run them regardless of the viewership. I haven't heard anything lately about the live action Star Wars show GL has talked about producing, but he has said in interviews he wants to have (IIRC) 100 episodes already finished before he shops them to networks. That's basically 5 seasons worth of shows. Seems very high to me.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

IndyOriginal · Post by **IndyOriginal** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:18 pm

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know, if anyone has been interested in the cardigan at Banana Republic that Croft has, you should buy it this weekend. BR is having a 30-50% off one item sale this weekend. Normal price is $130, I just picked it up for like $68. Good deal.

wpg · Post by **wpg** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:21 pm

I have been working on a shawl necked cardigan for a while now, and they are finally available. I wasn't really thinking IJ when I undertook this project, but it might be of some interest.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:26 pm

Ya might want to resize that one my friend as that pic is huge.

Otherwise, looks nice, any other colors or just the off white.

Croft