Legend Goatskin!?

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:10 pm

Gorak,

I don't see anything on the website about the vents.
It does mention the "correctly-sized small side gaps". I do believe they are refering to the gaps in the back panel where it meets the shoulder seams.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:34 pm

Gorak wrote:I am going so back and forth over this jacket as the pics of that leather look lovely! I have put it "into my cart" like 5 or 6 times and then just keep stopping...I have some great jackets...don`t need another one...but this leather goatskin just keeps calling me.....so before the sale runs out, can anyone tell me how high up the side vents are on the bottom of the jacket? The website description claims that they are "correctly" small. I need high vents...that`s my personal demon of screen accuracy- the side vents and strap configuration. So if anyone can measure theirs on a medium and post I would greatly appreciate so I can maybe decide before this fantastic sale ends!

the vents go 4'' up on the sides like all are made.

so they are high enuff to give an Indy feel. but not high enuff to get that flap and the droop in the front panels of the jacket when you bend down. (make sence?)

However, they are higher then their standard jackets which is pretty small. Temple of doom height. 2'' I believe...

the standard vent height is 5''. at least on all Indy jackets I have seen or handled or read about. wested. todds. nowak, magnoli, I think GB has 5'' to?

Post by **Holt** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:35 pm

kwad wrote:Gorak,

I don't see anything on the website about the vents.
It does mention the "correctly-sized small side gaps". I do believe they are refering to the gaps in the back panel where it meets the shoulder seams.

yes they do.

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:38 pm

Ooops, my bad...okay, I get it now...cool. thanks a bunch, gang!

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:38 pm

Just ordered one. Should be here on Monday.
C

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:42 pm

Me too...and I REALLY don`t need one but this is really a good deal on one of "our" type of jackets and the pics you guys have been posting have got me drooling. ... if it is as good as I am thinking, I may have to sell off more of my other jackets that are starting to collect dust! Between my Magneto Russian Attack, my Hero, and washed goat, I am really set for the mild winters we get here in South Texas.

Baldwyn · Post by **Baldwyn** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:31 pm

Obsessively hitting refresh on the UPS tracking page....it's been so long since I've done this. The buzz alone is worth $195!

Baldwyn · Post by **Baldwyn** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:04 pm

Got my 30th Legend Goatskin! I'll try and get measurements later, but I'll tell you it is EXACTLY the same pattern as my cowhide imported Legend. No variance here. Quite honestly, we all measure differently so when there are discrepancies between one person's and another's, it might not be the jackets.

I've owned two goatskin jackets; Nowak goat, and a G&B (no longer have it). The US Wings is definitely the drappy-est. The grain is similar to the G&B, but I like it better. It FEELS like a Bantu Wind jacket!!!! Definitely, a great stand in for lamb.

Out of the box, the jacket looks horrible

The collar during shipping gets a weird shape, which probably needs some water shaping. I think it would look great once broken in, just explaining why there are no photos of it on.

Unfortunately, the hide used for my jacket was not evenly tanned. I don't mind small variances in color, in fact I like it. But there are patches of almost white leather. I'm sure it's not up to Wings' standards either and there will be no problem with an exchange.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:05 pm

Yeah! Collars don't seem to like shipping boxes too much, I've noticed.

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:31 pm

Dude! Thia was not a good post to read right now.... I am expecting mine tomorrow and I was all set on breaking it in over weekend on our small vacation...this is so going to put a damper on things ahould this jacket arrive with white hide!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:42 pm

With the thin jacket talk, G, I thought you were going 30th AL..?

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:47 pm

I'm expecting mine tomorrow too, although, I won't be here to sign for it. I'll have to pick it up Saturday ... I hope.
When I ordered mine, I told them that I wanted the darkest jacket with the least amount of aging.
We'll see what happens.

With fingers crossed.

C

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:40 pm

Texan Scott- this one boiled down to "available funds" at this particular time. I've had a USWings Newzealand Lamb and wanted to see this goatskin firsthand.

Canasta-I was unaware one could put in the word for specifics. Did you just ask in the "comments" section of the order form?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:44 pm

Nice skin and fit. It is not too thick either.

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:00 am

Gorak,
I just ordered mine via phone and asked the gal I spoke to.
She said she would make a note when the order went in.

As I said .... we'll see.

Canasta

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:10 am

I'm really hoping mine has the color of Oildale Jones' jacket. That looks nice.

C

Baldwyn · Post by **Baldwyn** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:25 am

Gorak wrote:Dude! Thia was not a good post to read right now.... I am expecting mine tomorrow and I was all set on breaking it in over weekend on our small vacation...this is so going to put a damper on things ahould this jacket arrive with white hide!

I'm sure it's just an aberration! No one else has complained about this.

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:08 am

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:21 am

Arrrrgh. Missed the delivery today. Have to wait 'till Monday as UPS isn't open on Saturday.
Drat.

C

damieneo · Post by **damieneo** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:40 am

CRB wrote:Measurements ? Certainly. I have a medium in the lamb version of this. I'd love to know what the Large measurements are.

Back length: 25.25"
Sleeve length: 24"
Pit to pit: 23.25"
Shoulder: 18.5"

Is the goatskin soft like the lamb ?

Wow. The shoulder measurements seems to suggest this is even smaller than the size small Legend Cow (Steerhide) Imported which I had. It was a little big for my frame. Hopefully a size small of this Legend Goat will fit me well.

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:16 pm

Okay..here`s mine.

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and here I have the Wings on my right side and my Wested Hero on the left. I was hoping for a good way to model the differences but with the shadowing, they look just about the same...at least you can see the color difference.
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The same way some of you have your gripe with Wested, I have that gripe with US Wings. I don`t want to go all into why but I say that here to say that I am somewhat biased....
The leather is FANTASTIC!!!!! I love this goatskin. The color and the grain is almost perfect. Alittle too thick for me but still....the problem is, I am left feeling like some of you here have said before about other jackets...I think a Raiders jacket out of this leather would be awesome!
I don`t know why (It could just be me being childish) but this jacket just looks and feels TO ME like a department store jacket that just happens to have the indiana jones pieces. A high quality department store but still, nevertheless, U S Wings just never really captures that Indiana Jones 'vibe' for me. It feels too baggy in the wrong places and just sits too much like a caricature of the Indy jacket in my eyes. Those armholes are just too big.
On the plus side, it is actually a very well made jacket, feels strong, feels comfy, Aside from the armholes, it fits just right (It is a size medium). It is alittle on the weighty side but not so much to feel like I am hefting a jacket around. I was planning on just selling it but there is a part of me that would love to see this jacket cold water formed and alittle distressed. The leather, again, is to die for.
I give it a reluctant thumbs up.

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:06 pm

I couldn't agree more with Baldwyn regarding his statement we "all measure differently". I currently own 6 Indy jackets from three different vendors marked 4 different sizes but all measure in chest and sleeve length within 1/2 inch . The measurements do begin to differ on front and back length from one vendor to the other. I have two small's and two medium jackets from US Wings, a 42 from Wested w/ a few tweaks, and XL from Todd's Costumes. I have also owned or had in my possesion a Wested 40 regular and a Todd's Large and both were to short for me in sleeve length.

I am really confused about the comments regarding the "huge arm holes" on the US Wings jackets. I have compared them to all my other jackets and the only jacket that seems to have a smaller arm hole is Todd's jacket and it isn't a huge difference.

With all that being said my 30th Anniversary Legend Lamb skin, in a size Medium, is the best fitting jacket I have recieved from any vendor out of the box, the collar did need a little work out of box.

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:31 pm

As has been discussed before in other threads, some of us are prone to "slim fitting" jackets while others need more room...ala _ and the like. And since USWings caters to the military, I would think their gear is geared more to the muscular military type without even knowing it. Now I am in no way "slim" (my growing Buddha belly will attest to that

) but all the Wings jacket I owned fit me like a Letterman's jacket. Again, the jocks as opposed to the geeks....the sleeves just seem to have a bigger circumferance...all the way down even to the wrist. It literally gives the impression of wearing a big guys jacket as opposed to a 'second skin' which is what I saw Indy's jacket in Raiders as. So if you are a muscular guy who is built as God intended, you won't really notice the difference.....but us smaller frames would be swimming in the same jacket. I hope this makes sense...it does in my own head.
Looking at my pics the jacket looks fine but the cut or pattern just gives too much extra material in the back shoulder/arm flab area than any other vendors jacket that I have owned. You can see it in the back pics but I will try to get specific pics when I figure out a good way to present my theory. IMO

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:23 pm

So it looks like the goat is now gone ! Run out of stock I guess ? But the good news is that the lamb version is on offer at $195 ...

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:30 pm

Baldwyn wrote:Got my 30th Legend Goatskin! I'll try and get measurements later, but I'll tell you it is EXACTLY the same pattern as my cowhide imported Legend. No variance here. Quite honestly, we all measure differently so when there are discrepancies between one person's and another's, it might not be the jackets.

Baldwyn's right. It's not the jacket.
I just checked jacket again, and I did screw up on the measurements.
The chest on my size large was 24". Not 23" like in my previous post. My bad!

However, after a long trip in the washer (on hot) & dryer (on high heat)......

Looks like I don't have to worry about getting a Medium!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:54 pm

CRB wrote:So it looks like the goat is now gone ! Run out of stock I guess ? But the good news is that the lamb version is on offer at $195 ...

That was fast and they don't plan to make anymore of these. Gorak, it looks like you made it just under the wire?

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:15 pm

KWAD,
Can we see some pics now that it has been washed?

I've got one too and I will post some thoughts here later.

Thanks
C

Oildale Jones · Post by **Oildale Jones** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:34 pm

kwad wrote:However, after a long trip in the washer (on hot) & dryer (on high heat)......
Looks like I don't have to worry about getting a Medium!

But what happens to the liner?

Baldwyn · Post by **Baldwyn** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:32 pm

CRB wrote:So it looks like the goat is now gone ! Run out of stock I guess ? But the good news is that the lamb version is on offer at $195 ...

Ack! I just returned one. I hope they saved me a replacement!

CRB · Post by **CRB** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:57 am

Mine's on it's way thankfully, just got in before the sell out. Depending on whether I decide to keep it or not, I may put it in the bazaar immediately.

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:22 am

Canasta wrote:KWAD,
Can we see some pics now that it has been washed?

I've got one too and I will post some thoughts here later.

Thanks
C

Canasta,

My Import Legend is made of the vintage cowhide.
I've been loosing weight and was thinking of getting one of these goatskins to replace it.
However, after much debate (and several beers) I decided to wash the cowhide and it worked out.

I would have still liked to get one of the goatskin jackets, but, I guess that ship has sailed.

-Kevin

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:31 am

Yeah, when Wings posts they have a limited number on hand, they're never kidding....and their website is seen 'round the world, and not just by us.

If you ever see something that peaks your curiousity at Wings, you best jump on it or they will disappear, many times never to be replaced in stock either.

Regards! Michaelson

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:43 am

Was the 30th antique goat a more limited run than even the 30th antique lamb? Or did it just sell out faster?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:56 am

I just heard there were 100 units of the goat received.

I never heard numbers on the lambskin.

Regards! Michaelson

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:22 am

I was going to send mine back for an XL, but noticed that they had already sold out, so I decided to keep it. It is a little snug, but not too bad. Sleeves would have been too long anyway.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:21 pm

Sounds like we must be pretty much the same size, Tex.

My XL Legend lambskin fits fine in the body, and the sleeves come down just past my wrist in more of a CS type length, but not bad.

Though I could wear a Large, the first one I ever tried was the buffalo Legend and it, too, was a bit snug.

I've ALWAYS been able to wear a large in any Wings offerings, but the Legend pattern is definitely one of those 'next size up' works best, at least for me.

Regards! Michaelson

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:26 pm

The import is a slightly better fit for me, though I like the well put together US made jackets, too.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:28 pm

Ditto.

Kubrik · Post by **Kubrik** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:58 pm

I got my Legend goat last week, that was close, didn't think they would run out so fast. It's the best jacket I've ever had and I've had over a dozen of these Raiders type jackets. The different tones of brown on it is totally awesome. I was thinking of getting another one but will have to go for the lamb I guess.

Hard to believe they're not going to be making them anymore. Will they stop making Legends after the lamb version is gone too?

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:40 pm

Kubrik wrote:Hard to believe they're not going to be making them anymore. Will they stop making Legends after the lamb version is gone too?

Very likely. That's the thing with Wings; they offer the widest range of leathers for their Indy jackets of any vendor I know of, but they come and go. I'm still hoping that they will work out the issues they had with the kangaroohide, and bring that one back.

Weston

cokewithvanilla · Post by **cokewithvanilla** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:03 pm

I ordered mine monday I think.... just came in today. 30th, goat, large. Mine has some imperfections, a surface cut in the leather...didn't come with tags... I called USW to make sure it wasn't a returned item or something, they say it's not. I don't think the imperfections bother me, after all, I'm gonna beat it up. The fit is alright. I have a small waist, so it kind of lookss funn, especially in this picture. The collar is also quite large.

Here is a terrible picture:

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:14 pm

NICE looking jacket!

Once you wear it for a bit, a lot of the sleeve length will also be drawn up into the elbow bend. Looks like you got a real winner!

HIGH regards! Michaelson

image · Post by **image** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:13 pm

Yes, according to Grace Brothers, "the sleeves will ride up with wear."

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:40 am

"You all done VERY well....."

Regards! Michaelson

image · Post by **image** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:00 am

Thank you Mr. Grace. LOL

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:07 am

This antique goat kinda grows on you fast! Great color and soft leather.

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:03 pm

Here are a few more pics of my goatskin which I felt showed the color and grain much better for those who are interested.....

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CRB · Post by **CRB** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:25 am

cokewithvanilla wrote:I ordered mine monday I think.... just came in today. 30th, goat, large. Mine has some imperfections, a surface cut in the leather...didn't come with tags... I called USW to make sure it wasn't a returned item or something, they say it's not. I don't think the imperfections bother me, after all, I'm gonna beat it up. The fit is alright. I have a small waist, so it kind of lookss funn, especially in this picture. The collar is also quite large.

Here is a terrible picture:

That looks an awesome leather, nice drap and very like what I see on screen. Once you wrinkle those sleeves, it will look perfect. I wish I had arms that fit jackets like that.

cokewithvanilla · Post by **cokewithvanilla** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:38 pm

Is this normal?

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:41 pm

Unfortunately, yes. The back panel construction has that issue on my Legend as well.