Which is the toughest??

Marlin_Fan · Post by **Marlin_Fan** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:36 pm

Which type of leather from Wested is the toughest for real world use??

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:40 pm

Marlin_Fan wrote:Which type of leather from Wested is the toughest for real world use??

Goat and then New Cow. -S

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:36 pm

Goat and then New Cowhide...with the distressed cowhide a close second.

Later!
Indydawg

Bogie1943 · Post by **Bogie1943** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:48 pm

Well, I own a Wested Cowhide and let me tell ya it is "One tough, shut yo mouth"!!! I have distressed it twice with sandpaper, both times restoring it with leather conditioner, it restores nicely. It has been to two countries in back and no tears, rips or holes.

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:08 pm

Josh Maestro,
Any way you could send me pic of your distressed jacket? Im in the market.....And would like to see how one of these looks distressed,
thank you!

IJ

Marlin_Fan · Post by **Marlin_Fan** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:35 pm

So far, its goat or cow....which wieghs more??

Thx

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:39 pm

goatskin is the strongest in my opinion

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:53 pm

Well, scientifically the answer to the durability question is:

Kangaroo, Goat, Deer, Horse, Cow and then at 999,999,999, Lamb. Just kidding on Lamb, but it is way down on the list.

So to answer the original poster's question, which Wested Leather is the most durable? Goat!

-Sergei

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:27 pm

IndianaJames wrote:.....And would like to see how one of these looks distressed,
IJ

This jacket is tough. Really tough.

I took a quick pic of my new cow. I have had it about a year. It's slightly distressed. Some is natural and some is artificial. The distressing will go away with a little leather conditioner. I have it looking like I want it.

Getting the sheen to go away was my biggest hurdle. All the pictures I would take, the jacket looked like vinyl. I rubbed a whole quart of acetone on it and it still was shinny. Getting caught in a Texas flood and helping at a local ranch seemed to help with dulling the jacket.

Pyro.

(Note: Marker caps Marks-a-lot Green and Red and Sharpie Blue for color reference.)

Chamorro · Post by **Chamorro** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:35 pm

I guess you're an LC man, huh?

Nice job.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:39 pm

Chamorro wrote:I guess you're an LC man, huh? Nice job.

What makes you say that?

Thanks. I love the LC jacket from the Motorcycle chase to the beach scene. For me, THAT's a leather jacket.

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:46 pm

Well, I am guessing. But Chamorro correctly guessed, that the distressing style was more LC than Raiders. More distressing on the seams, is what I am seeing. Good job, Pyro!

-S

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:49 pm

Sergei wrote:Well, I am guessing. But Chamorro correctly guessed, that the distressing style was more LC than Raiders. More distressing on the seams, is what I am seeing. Good job, Pyro!

-S

Yup. At the risk of turning this into a distressing thread, one think that I wanted to show is getting as close to the stiching as possible.

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:28 pm

Thanks for the pics pyro! I also have distressed my lambskin to look like the moto scene in LC....And for me, THIS is the THE Jacket...and look I ultimately want to get:

Tanks again-

IJ

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:33 pm

And while were here...Id like you guys to take a look at how far the pockets are from the zipper. With all that everyone has been talking about with this measurment - 1 1/2" I believe, look at these - thats WAY more than that. Also look how long the upper flap is on the pockets.. Can anyone use that form of measuring a picture and relating it to what it would be in real life? (Does that make sense?)

CHeers!

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:28 am

I'm right there with you Pyro!!!

I "LOVE" how the jacket looks during the Last Crusade motorcycle chase! I have a Wested Goatskin, but I heard that, like the Cowhide, it can be difficult to distress naturally. However, what did you use on your jacket? Fuller's Earth? Kitty Litter dust I heard someone here say makes for a good "fuller's earth" dust.....And I too applaud the look of your jacket!!

Regards!
Captain D

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:30 am

Marlin_Fan wrote:So far, its goat or cow....which wieghs more??

Thx

Cow

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:45 am

Indiana Texas-girl wrote:
Marlin_Fan wrote:So far, its goat or cow....which wieghs more??

Thx
Cow

Yep, I agree with ITG that Cow hide is heavier. In fact it's quite a bit heavier. But no one has ever asked what is warmer. In my opinion, Cow is the warmest. That's what I wear when I want to be the warmest. But from what I hear from the more experienced is that Deer exhibits peculiar qualities of being light, cool and warm.

-S

Redbeard · Post by **Redbeard** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:12 am

Peter actually suggested the cowhide to me. He said (or wrote) it's the most durable and heavy (which I think a leather jacked should be).

I mus say he's right. I love my Wested.

Bogie1943 · Post by **Bogie1943** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:27 am

As do I, but I have always wanted a lamskin jacket for the really warm months. I love lambskin, it's my favorite leather.

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:16 pm

Really, who doesn't love the Last Crusade jacket distressing style? Much like the Raiders fedora, it has the most distinctive look of the three films. I spent a great deal of time making my jacket match LC as closely as possible, and the results are out of this world. In all fairness, though, my pictures don't do it justice. It really has to be seen in person to appreciate the level of detail I was able to achieve. Anyway, I'm just writing this post as a cheap excuse to show off some new jacket pics. Enjoy!

http://www.geocities.com/pangaeascape/archive.html

Marlin_Fan · Post by **Marlin_Fan** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:12 pm

Thank you for your inputs!! It'll will be goat or cow....and the LC jacket is the best!! Any more ideas are more than welcome!!

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 5:49 pm

Whipwarrior -
Jacket does look great! But at the same time a little to spotty, you can kind of tell it was purposely distressed - Hey pyro your lamb turned out awesome if I remember....

Cheers!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 5:58 pm

IndianaJames wrote: Hey pyro your lamb turned out awesome if I remember....

Cheers!

Thanks, I have a photo that was mailed to me of me in the jacket. I looked at it and thought, "Is that my jacket? Cool."

I will scan it and post it.

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:36 pm

It only looks spotty because of the flash. (Sorry, our digital camera *****) The raw patches of leather look much more subtle in real life. Like I said before, it really must be seen in person.

-Dale

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:51 pm

Thanks Pyrocitor!

Whipwarrior -
Ah, all apologies then...

Cheers

copper · Post by **copper** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:35 pm

I own two wested jackets Lamb & goat goat is way tougher but thats the one I keep in nice condition.The lamb is what I work in it has gotten a few tears in it & I had to sow am up looks cool I think.I do have to say lamb is tough but goat is way tougher.Well Gezz I ges I just said what everone else said so Ill go now.Copper.

Indiana Joe · Post by **Indiana Joe** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:35 pm

Sergei wrote:But no one has ever asked what is warmer. In my opinion, Cow is the warmest. That's what I wear when I want to be the warmest. But from what I hear from the more experienced is that Deer exhibits peculiar qualities of being light, cool and warm.

Okay. Maybe we can settle this? I've been curious about this question, Sergei but haven't asked. So, if cow is the warmest, how do kangaroo, goat, deer, horse, and lamb rank in terms of warmness? Or, maybe expound on their qualities regarding temperature?

Please, anyone chime in. Even _---if you're still out there, big guy!

Indiana Joe

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:53 pm

Indiana Joe wrote:
Sergei wrote:But no one has ever asked what is warmer. In my opinion, Cow is the warmest. That's what I wear when I want to be the warmest. But from what I hear from the more experienced is that Deer exhibits peculiar qualities of being light, cool and warm.
Okay. Maybe we can settle this? I've been curious about this question, Sergei but haven't asked. So, if cow is the warmest, how do kangaroo, goat, deer, horse, and lamb rank in terms of warmness? Or, maybe expound on their qualities regarding temperature?

Please, anyone chime in. Even _---if you're still out there, big guy!

Indiana Joe

From my readings, I haven't seen any study that addresses warmness. I have only seen durability rankings.

-S

Indiana Joe · Post by **Indiana Joe** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:00 pm

Sergei wrote:From my readings, I haven't seen any study that addresses warmness. I have only seen durability rankings.

So, it will have to be subjective and should be the different leathers but the same jacket, in roughly the same weather, if we are to get some answers.

Well, anybody game and want to try for a non-scientific approach?

Post by **Ken** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:04 pm

Well I can give you a cracking review of the Wested. I am up in Scotland and its absolutly baltic! Snow and all. So if anyone wants to send me a cowhide or two or three for review (I can wear them all at once) if you are getting too hot over sunny stateside please feel free

Ken

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:17 pm

My stab at it? In order from warmest to coldest....horsehide, cowhide, goatskin, lambtouch cowhide, lambskin with deerskin and 'roo skin under misc. Deerskin is about the weirdest leather I've ever worn...comfortable all across the scale, comfortable from the 70's down into the low teens! I've never worn 'roo, so I'll leave that to others to answer. This is just in line to what I've worn and experienced in the area I live. Regards. Michaelson

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 8:51 am

I cannot say much about the hides I haven't owned, but I find that I can wear my lamb down to about 20 degrees (with a thick shirt), and up to about 65-70 degrees.

I think it may have to with one's own tolerance for temperatures, as well as the climate you are used too. As far as for hides, wouldn't a denser hide be warmer? Just a quandry.

Peace,
Cliffhanger

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:49 am

In my list, I was not allowing for layering underneath. I was stating my experience using just a jacket and shirt scenario. You can layer underneath ANY jacket, and take it below zero if you want, which I have done, and still do. Regards. Michaelson

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 5:46 pm

Michaelson wrote:In my list, I was not allowing for layering underneath. I was stating my experience using just a jacket and shirt scenario. You can layer underneath ANY jacket, and take it below zero if you want, which I have done, and still do. Regards. Michaelson

Right, I see...I guess what I should have just simply said (hard for me to do sometimes

) is that deciding on how warm a jacket is can be misleading, as we all have different tolerances to different temperatures. Myself, for example, am fine in short sleeves down to about 50, and with just a Wested lamb down to about 20. Sorry for the confusion.

Peace,
Cliff

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 6:07 pm

Using your criteria, I am also comfortable down to about 45-50 in short sleeves in a goatskin and higher using my list, but below that, long sleeve, then sweater. You're ABSOLUTELY correct. It all depends on location, body build, tolerance to cold and heat, and so forth. I've experienced winters where I was perfectly comfortable in a long sleeve shirt, sweater vest and lambskin in 20 degree weather, only to have a winter where no amount of layering under horsehide could warm me, and still be in the 20's!

Go figure! High regards. Michaelson

Indiana Joe · Post by **Indiana Joe** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:35 pm

Sergei wrote:Well, scientifically the answer to the durability question is:

Kangaroo, Goat, Deer, Horse, Cow and then at 999,999,999, Lamb. Just kidding on Lamb, but it is way down on the list.

So to answer the original poster's question, which Wested Leather is the most durable? Goat!

-Sergei

Are there any gearheads wearing kangaroo or buffalo jackets? Just curious.

Michaelson wrote:My stab at it? In order from warmest to coldest....horsehide, cowhide, goatskin, lambtouch cowhide, lambskin with deerskin and 'roo skin under misc. Deerskin is about the weirdest leather I've ever worn...comfortable all across the scale, comfortable from the 70's down into the low teens! I've never worn 'roo, so I'll leave that to others to answer. This is just in line to what I've worn and experienced in the area I live. Regards. Michaelson

I completely agree on the deerskin!

Michigan Smith · Post by **Michigan Smith** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:44 pm

Holy dead thread resurrection Batman!
Posted: Feb Wed 05, 2003 3:07 am

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:04 pm

yeah, that was weird seeing a Sergei post. I have a water buffalo jacket. It's pretty durable.

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:47 am

Yeah pulled back from the dead!!

Post by **Holt** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:11 am

please don't drag this old threads up from the dead. let'em rest.

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