Raiders gun question

[knibs7]

Ok so before anyone all but KILLS me, I did use the search button and couldn't find anything.

So here's the question: What happened to Indy's gun during the truck chase?

Kyle

[Chewbacca Jones]

My guess is, he just didn't have time to pull it, or thought it would be too dangerous to try shooting while driving.

[knibs7]

I mean because when he's on the front of the truck, it doesn't even look like it is in the holster!

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Kyle

[knibs7]

He's bummed because the gendarmes took away his guns...

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Haha. Actually the last time we see him with his gun is when he rescues Marion from the cockpit.

Kyle

[Mountaineer]

His revolver is last seen on the flying wing; the Hi-Power is seen on the Bantu Wind.

My guess to there possibly being no holstered revolver in the picture you referenced?

Safety. No need to have a lump to fall on, metal or resin, if you don't need to.

[knibs7]

My guess to there possibly being no holstered revolver in the picture you referenced?

Safety. No need to have a lump to fall on, metal or resin, if you don't need to.

Ya, I figured. But as _ hinted at, you'd think they would put a rubber stunt gun in there or something, especially since you get a pretty good view of the holster... would be different if it was a scene where the holster wasn't very visible.

Kyle

[Oildale Jones]

My guess to there possibly being no holstered revolver in the picture you referenced?

Safety. No need to have a lump to fall on, metal or resin, if you don't need to.

Ya, I figured. But as _ hinted at, you'd think they would put a rubber stunt gun in there or something, especially since you get a pretty good view of the holster... would be different if it was a scene where the holster wasn't very visible.

Kyle

I'll go with 1) safety and 2) "It'll be a quick shot, no one will notice, and if they do, it will take them 30 years."

[Tennessee Smith]

I'm pretty sure that when they filmed it the last thing they were concerned with was the gun, plastic or not.

Having a moving vehicle with someone moving around it pobably had enough logistical problems to deal with anyways. And their intent was to make it cheap and in the vein of a serial. So S.S. probably just said "forget about it, its moving so quick no one will notice"!!!


...now we have the internet

[Mountaineer]

They went to great pains to try to get that very gun back for CS.

Not to be overly harsh, but then they dropped the ball on that one.

I've always thought the S&W a better revolver, but that's another gripe for another thread.

[Michaelson]

So, you were the one bidding against Lee Keppler, eh?

Regards! Michaelson

[Mountaineer]

I (a complete industry outsider looking in) if I were trying to get the "look" of the original, wouldn't even get hung up on getting the original revolver.

I mean, to make a "Raiders"-ish S&W 1917, if you were to purchase a base pistol from a dealer and then have the barrel work completed to "look" the part; would cost somewhere in the range of $700 - $1,200+. Those costs depending on if the base gun was a Brazilian export to one of the current production pistols.

I know California can be a little different with their gun laws and I have no idea how the places that rent/loan guns for movie productions work, but seriously, that seems like throwing away money for something that could be done for much less. Especially if it is just the "look" of a certain firearm you are looking to achieve.

Now, if you must have THAT pistol, then, I get it; price goes out the window.

[Michaelson]

That's exactly what he told me, but had no clue who. He had the right suspect in mind, though. He figured LFL was in the hunt....

Regards! Michaelson

[Michaelson]

Yeah, I know. I heard all that too. Like I said, I just wasn't aware YOU were in the hunt at the time.

Regards! Michaelson

[Tennessee Smith]

It went over 50K?!?!?

Just think how many they could have made for that...


And yes, I get the idea, they wanted it back but still. I can't reason with that.

[Michaelson]

That, too, as said at the time.....

[Tennessee Smith]

I wish I had that kind of money to play with. I'm working for the wrong company...er government...

[Michaelson]

No, it would have probably caused more heart attackes than you could imagine!!!!



Regards! Michaelson

[Oildale Jones]

I'm coming at this from a position of complete ignorance, but what I'm getting is the GL wanted this particular piece (for whatever reason). Why not just write a blank check? General principle?

[Oildale Jones]

You replied while I was revising. But the essence of the question remains and was answered. Thanks.

[Michaelson]

Yeah... Probably right. I've extended an open offer to buy it, but NOT at NEAR what they paid. I've had the priviledge of holding it. You know how a Wested just LOOKS like the jacket? Sometimes? Well, that gun feels like the gun. I've held a few impressive weapons. I've held Arnold's sword from Conan. Some just feel exactly like they should. That S&W is the real McCoy, bruthas...

I've fired them before, and just missed owning two in my gun collecting career. They're the real thing, that's for sure, but WAY out of my range now.

There was a day, though, they were cheap as dirt, and could be found in all manner of NRA conditions in gun stores everywhere. I just had to decide if I wanted to put groceries on the table for Mom and the kids, or own a S&W triplelock. Needless to say, the kids went well fed, and Dad is still looking back over his shoulder at 'what if'.

Regards! Michaelson

[knibs7]

Yeah... Probably right. I've extended an open offer to buy it, but NOT at NEAR what they paid. I've had the priviledge of holding it. You know how a Wested just LOOKS like the jacket? Sometimes? Well, that gun feels like the gun. I've held a few impressive weapons. I've held Arnold's sword from Conan. Some just feel exactly like they should. That S&W is the real McCoy, bruthas...

I've fired them before, and just missed owning two in my gun collecting career. They're the real thing, that's for sure, but WAY out of my range now.

There was a day, though, they were cheap as dirt, and could be found in all manner of NRA conditions in gun stores everywhere. I just had to decide if I wanted to put groceries on the table for Mom and the kids, or own a S&W triplelock. Needless to say, the kids went well fed, and Dad is still looking back over his shoulder at 'what if'.

Regards! Michaelson

Those dang kids!

Kyle

[Michaelson]

Yeah. Sold 'em to the gypsies twice. They brought' em back.



Regards! Michaelson

[wellofsouls]

There was a day, though, they were cheap as dirt, and could be found in all manner of NRA conditions in gun stores everywhere. I just had to decide if I wanted to put groceries on the table for Mom and the kids, or own a S&W triplelock. Needless to say, the kids went well fed, and Dad is still looking back over his shoulder at 'what if'.

Regards! Michaelson

Remember that the Model 17 is not a Triple Lock. Ignoring the odd short barrel and ramp front sight on the Bapty revolver:
Model 17:
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Triple Lock :
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The difference is in the ejector shroud - always a giveaway.

[Oildale Jones]

I noticed something, so I've returned to this thread.

I think I get your point, i.e. that they weren't concerned to have the gun in the shot... Because the Armourer WAS VERY concerned about taking care of that S&W. That was the only gun they had - the only revolver. The gun was more important than just about any prop they had. They went to great pains to try to get that very gun back for CS.

That might explain why the gun in the holster appears to NOT be the S&W. In fact, I don't know what that gun is, but it doesn't seem to fit the holster very well. This is the last time we see a(ny) gun in the holster. When Indy goes under the truck, not only is the holster empty (it collapses when it touches the road) but the strap appears to be missing.

(Also note that Terry Leonard's stunt fedora has a hole in it!)

[Holt]

The browning HP maby?

[Oildale Jones]

It looked to me like a Walther P38, probably borrowed from one of the soldiers, but I think you nailed it, Holt. I think the silver "stripe" is light reflecting off the bottom edge of the grip panel.

It's not the most productive use of my time, but I can foresee myself making photo comparisons in Pixelmator...