The Federation IV Display Page

Arch Stanton · Post by **Arch Stanton** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:49 pm

I went to the hatsdirect website this morning to order a Fed IV in tawny fawn, but alas, they don't have it anymore! The have something called "heritage fawn". Is this the same, but with a new name? It definitely looks darker than the tawny fawns I've seen.

Also I noticed that they only have 4 options for colors now. I could have sworn they used to have 5, but I can't for the life of me remember what the other color was. Was it perhaps a lighter brown between the dark brown and tawny?

jlee562 · Post by **jlee562** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:47 pm

They have Tawny Fawn, but only in the regular Fed, not the deluxe. To my eyes, they look to be slighty different colors.

Arch Stanton · Post by **Arch Stanton** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:02 pm

Thanks for the reply and the info. I did not know that. And you helped me figure out the missing color I was thinking of. The Fed 4 Regular has 5 colors with "Carbon Grey" being the one I forgot about. The Deluxe only comes in 4 colors.

Federation IV Regular - Tawny Fawn

Federation IV Deluxe - Heritage Fawn

darthbish · Post by **darthbish** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:09 pm

a little of topic here, but I recently ditched the centre dent on my DB Fed IV for a teardrop bash.

Not strictly 'indy-accurate', but I'm seriously LOVING the look of it now.
I'll try and post some pix later

Arch Stanton · Post by **Arch Stanton** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:11 pm

Can you get a pic of the back of it as well?

darthbish · Post by **darthbish** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:36 am

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:52 am

Looks like you're wearing that hat the way it was meant to be!

darthbish · Post by **darthbish** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:30 am

Thanks dude...

A little bit of a turn distorts the brim nicely too..

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:36 am

While I'm normally not a fan of the tear drop you did an incredible job on that bash!!!

Well done DB!

-TS

Bartram · Post by **Bartram** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:10 pm

Looks sharp!
The Fed is a versatile hat indeed.

B

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:17 pm

Tennessee Smith wrote:While I'm normally not a fan of the tear drop you did an incredible job on that bash!!!

Totally agree.

VERY nice job, db!

darthbish · Post by **darthbish** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:53 pm

Many thanks Gents..

It might sound odd, but I think the hat 'prefers' that bash too..It just seems to sit right/better....I dunno..

Does that make sense??

Forrest For the Trees · Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:56 pm

Yes! My Fed III had a teardrop shape when I was brave enough (or silly enough) to wear it. It gave the appearance of a lower crown which looked more natural. The hat's proportions were just too big for my head, but that's another story. Yours looks good.

fenris · Post by **fenris** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:55 am

I got caught in the rain yesterday and here's how the hat looked after:

For some reason, the brim got wet the most. The crown had fewer water spatters... it's like the rain was aiming for my front brim the whole time.

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:51 am

...and held up like a trooper....I believe that you get quite the downpours in your neck of the woods...

Great looking fed!!

Ian

fenris · Post by **fenris** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:45 am

Ian wrote:...and held up like a trooper....I believe that you get quite the downpours in your neck of the woods...

Great looking fed!!

Ian

Rainy season is from June to August... sometimes reaching mid-September. The rain last Monday was freaky and hard! It wasn't even supposed to be raining that day (according to our weather service), but it did!

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:25 am

fenris wrote:
Ian wrote:...and held up like a trooper....I believe that you get quite the downpours in your neck of the woods...

Great looking fed!!

Ian
Rainy season is from June to August... sometimes reaching mid-September. The rain last Monday was freaky and hard! It wasn't even supposed to be raining that day (according to our weather service), but it did!

Good job you were wearing that Fed then!!.

My fed just laughs at the rain we get here....although it's not nearly as heavy as you get it...

Ian

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:52 pm

Glad to be joining the ranks of the FED once again! Feels like home. My first Indy hat was a Fed., and it didn't quite fit me well, so I gave it to Fenris (see my avatar) and bought this one from another member, whom I owe many thanks.

I've been blessed to receive such high quality hats, and glad to include this one among them. This Fed may occompany me to my next adventure.

This pic doesn't do it justice, but the next one is a bit better, in terms of displaying the overall shape of the hat.

TheSavoryTrim · Post by **TheSavoryTrim** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:20 am

Arch Stanton wrote:

There are too many things I love about this picture, not the least of which is the way the snow looks on your hat and the wonderfully snowy background, and the look on your face. <3

fenris · Post by **fenris** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:30 am

Texan Scott wrote:

...and I'm still enjoying the Fed IV you gave me! Thank you very much!

From that angle, the hat looks really tall... as in Downtown-ish tall. Funny how a camera lens can play tricks on the eyes... or it's probably just me as it's almost midnight here and my eyes are drying out (contacts).

Also, I can now see how much the front of my hat had tapered compared to your avatar pic. On your avatar pic, it's much straighter. But I still prefer this kind of taper as compared to side taper... with the taper in front, you don't have to deal with being called a cone-head.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:45 am

It looks tall, but it is about 4 1/2". Difficult to get that just right photo by snapping one into the mirror, especially due to the angle-below the face, etc. But you know, the best kind of taper, if it is there, is because you used it, and that's the main thing.

fenris · Post by **fenris** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:44 pm

Texan Scott wrote:It looks tall, but it is about 4 1/2". Difficult to get that just right photo by snapping one into the mirror, especially due to the angle-below the face, etc. But you know, the best kind of taper, if it is there, is because you used it, and that's the main thing.

Oh, the pic with you wearing it doesn't look tall at all. It's the other pic that makes it look big.

Also, I have tried that technique of taking my picture in the mirror and I always fail... either it's blurred, or part of me is cut off or the angle is wrong - making the hat look super tapered.

Arch Stanton · Post by **Arch Stanton** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:54 am

To my eyes that is a perfect hat.

Arch Stanton · Post by **Arch Stanton** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:08 am

TheSavoryTrim wrote:There are too many things I love about this picture, not the least of which is the way the snow looks on your hat and the wonderfully snowy background, and the look on your face. <3

Thank you, but I think it is just the red necktie. It contrasts and pulls it all together at the same time. I love Christmas time.

Chiliana Jones · Post by **Chiliana Jones** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:11 pm

just felt like bumping this one a bit

here's my Fed4-D after 3 years through lots of wear,traveling, heavy weather, being crushed in a backpack and in a luggage compartment on a plane (the last one i seriously was about to beat up a guy for throwing his suitcase on my hat without asking me politely to remove it. You should have seen his face when i got up from my seat. hehe!)

pic from trinity college, Dublin. 2011

still looks the same as when i got it. the sweatband is a little bent because of the wire but not badly enough to make it uncomfortable to wear. man do i love this hat

regards

CJ

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:15 pm

Here, here!

Mr_Vader · Post by **Mr_Vader** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:23 pm

Got my Fed IV today, its my first bash, be brutal

and on the old melon:

and lastly on the whole ensamle

InexorableTash · Post by **InexorableTash** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:45 pm

My Fed IV. Not the best view of the hat, I admit.

Ocean Beach Cave by inexorabletash, on Flickr

This is in San Francisco. My sister was having a post-wedding photo shoot (hence the fancy duds) and my son spotted a cave that we'd never noticed before, so we explored. We talked my father into checking it out as well and he caught me checking up on him.

jkdbuck76 · Post by **jkdbuck76** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:54 pm

Mr_Vader wrote:Got my Fed IV today, its my first bash, be brutal

Looks really good. Great for a first bash. Just my own preference, I like to push the
crown down a tad lower in the front. But that's just me and that's how a hat looks
better on me.

How you got it to pinch so tightly on the first bash is pretty good, sir.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:47 am

I have now had this hat for 3 years and still looking awesome! it just keeps getting better.

I replaced the ribbon and bow with a darker and more SA one. new bash job. (no reblocking) tweeked the brim and took out the steel wire.

Arch Stanton · Post by **Arch Stanton** » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:23 am

That is awesome.

I never really considered taking the wire out. Does it make the hat feel any different on your head? What's the best way to remove it?

Forrest For the Trees · Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:55 am

Holt, that looks really good. Is that a regular or deluxe?

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:42 pm

Thanks,

this is a deluxe

jkdbuck76 · Post by **jkdbuck76** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:53 pm

Holt wrote:I have now had this hat for 3 years and still looking awesome! it just keeps getting better.

I replaced the ribbon and bow with a darker and more SA one. new bash job. (no reblocking) tweeked the brim and took out the steel wire.

Probably the best general Raider's bash I've seen on a Fed IV. You, sir, are the master. Teach us Thy ways.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:16 pm

Thank you! may ways?

make hat wet, pinch, bash, wear

backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:31 pm

TheSavoryTrim wrote:
Arch Stanton wrote:

There are too many things I love about this picture, not the least of which is the way the snow looks on your hat and the wonderfully snowy background, and the look on your face. <3

Such an amazing LC look with that fedora, congrats! I would LOVE to be able to get mine to do that...

Holt wrote:....... and took out the steel wire.

Steel Wire, What steel wire? (in the fashion of, "Truck, what truck!")

jlee562 · Post by **jlee562** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:25 pm

backstagejack wrote: Steel Wire, What steel wire? (in the fashion of, "Truck, what truck!")

There's a wire in the sweatband.

Harry Gooch · Post by **Harry Gooch** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:40 pm

Chiliana Jones wrote:just felt like bumping this one a bit

here's my Fed4-D after 3 years through lots of wear,traveling, heavy weather, being crushed in a backpack and in a luggage compartment on a plane (the last one i seriously was about to beat up a guy for throwing his suitcase on my hat without asking me politely to remove it. You should have seen his face when i got up from my seat. hehe!)

pic from trinity college, Dublin. 2011

still looks the same as when i got it. the sweatband is a little bent because of the wire but not badly enough to make it uncomfortable to wear. man do i love this hat

regards

CJ

You can always remove the wire. I did that when I got the same hat. Just clip it with a pair of small side cutters at the back of the sweatband by the bow. Then, pull out the wire with pliers.

I believe Michaelson is a great fan of this approach.

Harry.

bounos · Post by **bounos** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:56 am

This is my first Fed IV,

George

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:08 pm

I tweaked the bash on my Fed to give it more of a Raiders feel and changed the ribbon with some I picked up from LLS.
How's it look?

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:52 am

I can definitely feel (and SEE) the Raiders "vibe" coming from that fedora, now... Very NICE job bashing that hat kwad!

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:21 pm

Thanks Mitch!

It was your most awesome Fed4 displayed a few pages back which got me to tweaking mine.

I always thought that the Feds just weren't made to be a Raiders fedora, then I saw yours!

I like the hat so much now that I'm thinking about picking up another in moonstone (might even treat myself and get me one of them dee-lucks models).

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:14 pm

Good job on the bash, kwad.

Post by **Holt** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:04 am

kwad wrote:I tweaked the bash on my Fed to give it more of a Raiders feel and changed the ribbon with some I picked up from LLS.
How's it look?

very nice!

did you upgrade the bow? looks very good!!

(update, I just read now that you changed it)

btw, if you mssed it..

here is my fed.

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Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:51 am

Harry Gooch wrote: You can always remove the wire. I did that when I got the same hat. Just clip it with a pair of small side cutters at the back of the sweatband by the bow. Then, pull out the wire with pliers.

I believe Michaelson is a great fan of this approach.

Harry.

Gooch, Michaelson, and anyone else with the knowledge and experience, feel free to jump in:

I've been thinking about doing this. What does it do to the hat looks, feel, and durability-wise? I am thinking it allow the hat to more closely conform to the head. Will the hat also have a more relaxed look about it? Why is the wire there to begin with? To help the hat keep its new looking shape longer? I like my hats to look lived in. Will removing the wire help in this regard, as well? Will the hat turn into a mushball in way to short a time?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:38 pm

I believe, and hatters correct me if I'm wrong, but the "Reed" is used to maintain shape and assists in flanging out the sweatbands (moving the sweatbands seam away from your head for comfort). The fed 4, while an awesome hat, has a poorly flanged (if at all) sweatband, so no harm there. And as an adventuring lid who cares how much shape it keeps IMHO? Ever seen the SOC?

When I did have one, I pulled it. Made it more comfortable to me.

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:31 pm

Thanks Scott!

Holt,

Your Fed looks great! (I'm also really diggin' your LC/CS hat

)
How did you get that reverse taper in the back of the Fed?
I've tried, but gave up as all attempts caused unwanted changes everywhere else

Post by **Holt** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:38 pm

once you beat the hat like I have done with mine it has no choice of standing against the reverse taper..

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:32 pm

So, you have to beat the hat into submission first?
No problem. I think I might have a whip somewhere around here.....

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:52 pm

[/quote]

Steel Wire, What steel wire? (in the fashion of, "Truck, what truck!")[/quote]

Akubra still use a wire in their reed tape. Most have moved over to a plastic. It's a much improved replacement because if you get a kink in the wire its done. You will need to replace it. The plastic ones don't kink up very easy and they can be moved back into shape, much better in my opinion.

The plastic in the reed tape has a purpose and should be removed. the plastic is to keep the sweatband belled into the hat.. remove it and no more bell. Just a friendly FYI.