Webley WG COW "27" pistol project!

singsingjohnny · Post by **singsingjohnny** » Fri May 21, 2010 12:11 am

If you end up with any extras, please let me know!

jd pilot · Post by **jd pilot** » Fri May 21, 2010 10:16 am

singsingjohnny wrote:If you end up with any extras, please let me know!

Get in line

I've been pestering him for months!

singsingjohnny · Post by **singsingjohnny** » Fri May 21, 2010 1:03 pm

jd pilot wrote:
singsingjohnny wrote:If you end up with any extras, please let me know!
Get in line I've been pestering him for months!

Oh yeah, as nice as these look, I figured there'd be a long, LONG line!

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Wed May 26, 2010 3:55 pm

Thanks everyone!

I don't have any open spots yet, but when i do I'll make it known.

Cheers,

Russ

azuma · Post by **azuma** » Thu May 27, 2010 12:23 am

Hi Russ,

Just received mine this morning! Great job!! Love it very much. Thank you again for making this available.

I am also interested in the metal version you are currently working on. Just don't know if the local law is allowed.

Thanks again for everything.

Best regards,
Azuma

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:29 pm

Yup. I'll be watching this thread waiting for the next run. Now that Im working, and this is the best Webley replica ever, Im keeping my eye on you.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:03 am

I have a few open slots on the run now. I have to wait for the last
people on the list who I just PMed to contact me about moveups
before I open them up to the group.

Cheers,

Russ

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:10 am

I Pmed ya. Just in case you see the thread before the PM

andrewindy · Post by **andrewindy** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:52 pm

hi rook

got the webley, it is just awesome.

thank you for your talented craftmanship.

andrewindy

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:32 pm

*whew*

Glad you received it! I was looking through my PMs and didn't see a recent one from you.

And glad you like it as well!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:21 pm

I took these pics the end of May but apparently never uploaded them. Doh.

http://www.rookscastle.com/photos/weble ... ay20_1.jpg

http://www.rookscastle.com/photos/weble ... ay20_3.jpg

http://www.rookscastle.com/photos/weble ... ay20_4.jpg

http://www.rookscastle.com/photos/weble ... ay20_5.jpg

I hope to get 3 more out the door on Monday. Enjoy!

Russ

jayrobinson · Post by **jayrobinson** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:17 am

Has Anyone in the UK receive one of these guns with no hassle??

I am dying to get one of these, but dont want it confiscated, please let me know!

cheers

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:22 pm

I got mine today! Good old no. 38...I was surprised by the other item, didn't know it came with that! Aweseome! Very happy Rook!

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:58 pm

Glad you like it!

Russ

theotherbruce · Post by **theotherbruce** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:19 am

pm sent about the open slot...yes, my fingers are crossed

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:04 pm

I've updated the list for those who were interested.

Successfully shipped on to the UK, so (*knocks on wood*) far I have a 100%
successful shipping ratio! yay!

Summer sure is flying by. Seems like I've been gone or busy every bloody weekend.
I hope to get some more Webleys in the pipe soon.

Russ

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:26 pm

Got mine awhile back but I forgot to post it. What a fine piece of art you've made Russ! Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Now I need a belt and holster.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:44 pm

Depending on the style of holster you're looking for, we have a couple board members who do nice work.

Glad you like the Webley!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:20 pm

I'm underway to finishing out the run! I know, finally!

So far I have 6 guns rough trimmed and buffed/polished. I have one rough trimmed and not buffed.

I'm only able to work on these about one day a week, sadly. I'm hoping to finish castings on the
remaining 3 to bring the total up to 10. One of which is already spoken for.

When the "spare" guns are available, I'll let everyone know.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:28 pm

Sorry for the long overdue update for those still interested in this project.

I have 11 pistols on the workbench right now.

Yesterday afternoon I put in appx. four hours and accomplished...

-Trimmed all sprues from the pistols.
-Trimmed all major excess.
-Hand buffed the surfaces.
-Drilled the barrel hinge points, stirrup latch points, release lever holes, grip slab holes and grip hole in grip frame.

Sorry for the poor camera phone picture. It was easier to post it to facebook
with my phone than get my wife off the computer.

What's left to do...

-Metal cast parts
-Drill/clean up metal parts including making the lanyard ring assembly. Very time consuming...
-drill barrel muzzle
-drill lanyard post hole
-drill lanyard lock pin hole (actually should have done this yesterday. Doh.)
-Wet sand all casting seams to smooth them out (also time consuming...)
-Test fit metal parts and hand fit adjustment of said parts (also time consuming...)
-Mask off the trigger and hammers.
-paint
-weather
-clear coat
-numbering and marking
-final assembly
-price hike to $500 each (Just seeing if you're still paying attention).

So that's where we sit. Some stages take more time than others due to all the custom fitting.
Be nice if I had an assembly line of sexy amazons doing the work. Alas, it's just me.

Russ

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:53 pm

Thanks for the update Rook, do you require any funds?
Let me know.

Croft

Oh and .....

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:58 pm

Tundrarider wrote:
Rook wrote:-price hike to $500 each (Just seeing if you're still paying attention).

Actually, considering how labor intensive and time consuming these "hand-made" replicas are, you could easily charge this much or more!!!

Michael

Also with how rare AND expensive a decent real one is, that isn't a bad price. I'm just glad I got one of these for the price I did. I have no plans of ever selling it either.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:35 pm

Just a status update for those curious about what's going on with the project.

I'm taking a few days off this and next week and I'm hoping to if not outright finish the last 11 guns, at least get to the 95% stage.

I'm also hoping to get the next 10 stunt guns done as well.

I'll update with pics when they're ready to rock.

Thanks for the interest!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:25 pm

Tuesday afternoon saw me clear the top straps so the grip and
barrel section can join togeather and close. Took about 3 hours to do 11 barrels.

Not sure if I'm doing metal parts or barrel/lanyard hole drilling today. One
is certainly less messy than the other.

We'll see how it goes, maybe I'll be able to do both.

Off to the Sankara mines...

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:39 pm

Well, that was productive!

Got all the barrels drilled, and the lanyard loop holes. Also got all the metal parts raw cast!!
They still need trimming, drilling, etc. but I'm halfway there with the metal parts!

I have 3 days off next week too, so the end is in sight!

Russ

Capt_Zak · Post by **Capt_Zak** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:56 pm

My mouth is watering Russ. Must have one...must have one.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:22 am

Jeez Capt_Zak, judging by your avatar, you might want to save as much h2o as you can, your lookin a little dehydrated.

Seriously though, love it.

Croft

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:01 am

LOL! Another update...

Yesterday I completed the seam cleanup on the barrel sections.
3-4 hours of wet sanding... yay...

Today I'll be working on the grip sections.

It's getting there.

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:42 pm

Just a quick non-update.

Things have been busy so I've had to put these at the back of the list for as bit. I hope to get back and finish them in the next couple weeks.

I'll post more updates as I actually accomplish something.

Sorry for all the delays.

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:26 pm

Spent 4 hours yesterday getting the triggers and hammers masked off for painting!

Slowly moving again!

Russ

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:02 pm

Slow but sure wins the race, thanks for yhe update.

Croft

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:24 am

Got the first coat of paint on them last night! yay!

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:34 pm

As of last week I have 8 of them weathered. Had to do some touch up painting on
two of them because I had a small amount of paint flake off when I was blowing
the dust off with the air compressor. Doh.

Planning on getting back at them this week.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat May 14, 2011 4:00 pm

Just a status update.

This run will be completed this month. It's not only the 3 year anniversary of Crystal Skull, but also 30 years since Raiders, so I'm going to get them done.

After that, I'll be doing a 10 gun "Hero stunt" WG run, similar to my last WG stunt run.

Guns are already cast, I just have to clean them up (trim, sand, etc.) and paint.

Thanks for the interest in the last 3 years, and to everyone who has participated thus far!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sun May 15, 2011 2:51 am

Tundrarider wrote:
Rook wrote:After that, I'll be doing a 10 gun "Hero stunt" WG run, similar to my last WG stunt run.
Gosh, Russ! No rest for the weary, huh?

Curious about the stunt run, as I have one of your stunt guns from your last run. How will the new run differ?

Michael

They'll differ... in that they'll be numbered #11-20 instead of 1-10.

Other than that, same quality.

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:03 pm

Took 2 days off from work, but only made one day's worth of headway. Sheila had one of those days off,
so I blame her. Yeah... that's it...

Got the release levers all fitted, as well as the sturrup latches. Plus two coats of clear coat on all the parts.

Down to manufacturing the lanyard loops now, which is very labor/time intensive.

All the pretty ladies in a row...

And a test fit of a set of grips...

So what's left?

-Make & fit the lanyard loops.
-Detail painting/adjustment (shell casings, screw heads, etc.)
-Numbering.

Getting there!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:49 am

After 2.5-3 hours, ten lanyard loops are DONE! YAY!

This week/coming weekend should see final assembly and then touch ups and numbering. The end is in sight!

Russ

rnrlifestyle · Post by **rnrlifestyle** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:20 am

You have a pm Rook.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:53 pm

People wonder what takes me so long.

Well, honestly, after working all day at my society-approved-imitation-real job, I don't feel
real motivated to do more work when I get home at night. Sad, but true.

But, if you crunch the numbers...

50 guns spread out over 3 years averages appx. 16 guns a year, or bettter
than one a month. Now, in actuality, I did them in spurts, so the initial 25-27
guns took me 6 months, then 6 months off, then another 10 or so, etc.

But in the end, I think making 50, hand built, hand assembled, painted
and completed replicas is a pretty big accomplishment...

Especially for what they cost.

Plus, I also did 10 stunt guns in that time frame as well.

So I KNOW some of you have waited a LONG time for your replicas,
but good things to come to those who wait... in time.

And that time is now!

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:55 pm

My how time flys...

And...

98% done!

Just have to number the beasts and touch up the front sight and they're ready!

This coming week I'll be sending out PMs to those on the list.
If someone doesn't respond, or bows out, their slot will be opened
up to someone here.

Happy 30th of Raiders everyone!

Russ

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:57 pm

And all I can say is Rook's Webley is one of my most cherished things I own, and I don't just mean Indy gear. It's just a very cool replica. Every guy loves it.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:17 am

Aw...

I'm just very lucky that everyone who's received them has liked them.

And soon 10 more will be in the club!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:47 pm

PMs are going out to those currently on the list, and if you're not, I'm going back through my PMs and sending one to those who's
asked in the past.

If I don't hear back within a week, I'll assume you're not interested and open the slot up to someone else.

Cheers!

Russ

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:27 pm

Well, the last 3 of 55 went out the door today!

Three years. THREE YEARS of doing these things, and in all honsety,
I still like the look of them.

I have 9 stunt guns I need to build up, and when I do I'll post an announcement,
but until that time, I just want to extend a heartfelt THANK YOU to all
in the Indy Community who have participated in my pistol run.

I've been very blessed to have had the opprotunity to bring these to you all,
and will do so again in the future, with possible replica design revisions as well.

But for now, a well deserved break from British Boer War era pistols.

Thanks again!

Russ

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:47 pm

I too own one. Thanks for all the hard work!

How does resin look when using a brass powder? Does it appear gold? Just curious because there's so many gold props in the Indy realm.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:12 pm

I haven't experimented with the bronzing powders to be honest. I
HAVE been tempted to try it though.

I don't believe it would come out
"Ark Gold" but more of a... well... bronze color. Gold-ish, but not 24k gold.

LOL@Tundrarider: I've contemplated repainting my own Webley with my
new paint techniques as I like the finish as well. It's just such a pain in
the buns to strip the old paint off for repainting.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:44 pm

I love mine. I cant believe I havent taken a photo yet. I got it last year and due to cirumstances, I had to pack it away. I had a chance to take it out last night and finally be all geared up wearing it, and I didn't even get to show anyone. I plan on wet molding my IMA holster to it one of these days.

Rook, what's the difference in the WG and the MKVI besides the grips? Is the barrel longer? I ask because I know where I can get a replica of the MK with cocking action and it does other neat stuff, but as I love the one you made, I was wondering if it was possible to get some parts from you to cannibalize this replica and make an uber indy gun:)

I just get a kick out of being able to pull back the hammer, pull the trigger and have the cylinder revolve, etc...Then I can frame yours:D

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:49 am

The birds head grip on the WG is different than the standard grip on the MKVI. The Birdshead grips on the MKVI's that had them, were a different shape and didn't have the sharper curve of the WG. The cylinder on the WG is longer, the section of the receiver under the cylinder is longer as well.

Those are the major physical differences between them. Somebody here mated the birds head grip section from I believe a MK3 and the barrel of a MKVI. It looked close (and quite nice!) but it's not exactly the same thing.

Depending on which parts you're talking about, some "might" be compatible, but in all honestly
I haven't tried it myself. The internals of the WG are quite different from those of the MKVI.

Kind of like the differences between... a Colt 1911 (made in 1911) and the 1911A1 made in 2011.

Send me a PM and we can see what you have in mind.

Russ

gi_canuck · Post by **gi_canuck** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:53 pm

GM Chrysler!! My "prop" has finally made it to Canada!! Was worried because the shipping status said "Item sent back to the sender due to wrong / missing information on the label.", but somehow it cleared the customs and finally it arrived here!! It's a beauty!! I have to saw off the plug in front of it, but wow... just wow. What a craftsmanship Russ!! Thank you sooo much!! Pics to come!!

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:17 pm

I'm glad you received it! Shipping mostly finished items to Canada always makes me paranoid. The only other Webley I've shipped there was a true unfinished kit.