Fedora's Leather jacket

CM · Post by CM » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:43 pm

Since the ideas are comming thick and fast these days, maybe TN could try one of these too?

Does anyone have any good captures or photos of a similar jacket to the one worn by Fedora at the start of Indy 3? I like that it is longer, has buttons and is made of a thinner hide. If I could get a good pattern I would have one made.

I know Peter made it but I am sure his patterns no longer exist. Didn't Michaelson have one made? I wonder how well it was done.

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:53 pm

Sure, just to get the ball rolling:

Front & Back

http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/ ... ts/042.jpg
http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/ ... ts/055.jpg

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:49 am

honestly, next to Indy, FEDORA is my favorite character!

CM · Post by CM » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:21 am

Love it. Thanks guys.

Dragonlady Jones · Post by **Dragonlady Jones** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:32 am

ReturningSon wrote:honestly, next to Indy, FEDORA is my favorite character!

Well, it does seem that he was the inspiration behind much of Indy's attire.

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:50 pm

Yep, I have one, and commisioned it from Wested. Personally, I think he nailed it. Photos are back in the archives somewhere, dated around 2006 or before.

Check with Peter. He should still have the patterns, and was seriously considering offering it....but other projects got in the way, and it kind of fell by the way side.

Regards! Michaelson

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:34 pm

The Fedora jacket just doesn't do it for me. There is something amorphous about it. That may have been on purpose.
Indy's jacket has character.

djd · Post by **djd** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:23 pm

I'd have to agree with you there. To me it's a shapeless horror of a jacket. Don't like it one it

VP · Post by VP » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:51 pm

Michaelson wrote:Photos are back in the archives somewhere, dated around 2006 or before.

All I found was this: http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?p=349880#p349880

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:13 pm

Must have been 2005 then. Time flies now. As I recall, KT shot photos of the jacket while it was still in the Wested shop and posted them here.

KT, any chance you still have those squirreled back somewhere?

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:19 pm

No, not 2005. http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?p=259937#p259937

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:21 pm

You're surrounding it, VP!

Regard! Michaelson

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:24 pm

Michaelson wrote:Must have been 2005 then. Time flies now. As I recall, KT shot photos of the jacket while it was still in the Wested shop and posted them here.

KT, any chance you still have those squirreled back somewhere?

Regards! Michaelson

I'm not sure I did! I think I may have missed that one!

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:26 pm

Crud. Well, apparently I got it some time between July and November of 2006, according to VP's research. I KNOW photos were posted, as I remember the poster apologized for showing them to the community before I had even received the jacket...which was ok by me.

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:35 pm

Fall 2006 it seems. http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?p=285256#p285256

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:12 pm

Yeah, two links prior to this one was dated to November, so it had to be Fall, 2006.

Regard! Michaelson

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:37 pm

VP wrote:Fall 2006 it seems. http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?p=285256#p285256

The requested topic does not exist.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:10 am

OK, am I nuts or in the third picture (first link) when looking at Fedora from the front it looks like the jacket has an action pleat. But in the picture of Fedora's back I can't see one.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

VP · Post by VP » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:04 am

RCSignals wrote:
VP wrote:Fall 2006 it seems. http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?p=285256#p285256

The requested topic does not exist.

Seems like they deleted it after my link. Basically it was dated January 2007 and was about quality control issues Wested had back then, and Michaelson had some problems with his Fedora jacket too. Probably removed because it's all water under the bridge now and no need to beat a dead horse. Man there were a lot of threads by PLATON in the jacket section back then.

Hey Mark, the first link was dated in Nov. 2007, the second Jul. 2006 and the last one Jan. 2007.

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:06 am

I was going to ask the same thing, VP. All I found in your last link were my comments about a posted jacket received by another individual, and nothing about my "Fedora" jacket, then this morning the mesage the thread no longer exists.

I do remember that Wested QC thread, though, and there were issues about the cuffs on my jacket...but I can't find that thread either.

I wonder if the server 'hick-up'd' again.

So, it appears it was late summer 2006 to be the target date area that my jacket arrived.

Regards! Michaelson

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:41 pm

so the thread just disappeared?

VP · Post by VP » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:55 pm

Yes. Here's another: viewtopic.php?p=281273#p281273

Post by **Holt** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:06 pm

personally I dont like this jacket.

but if people want to have a vendor copy this ajcket then here are some good pictures of it.

Cuff detail: two buttoned cuff.

also, look at this guy. he would rock as an Indy replacement!!

Full back: see the split that goes down the middle and the hem seam. I think it has a double hem seam.

Pocket placement and corner detail

Length and pocket detail: There is no flap on the pocket.

Collar detail

Chest pocket and button'd stormflap

Rear shoulder pleat:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ ... doraj2.jpg

Full back close up and placement of rear shoulder pleat
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ ... ket1-1.jpg

another length shot
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ ... oraj10.jpg

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:14 pm

Well, I DO like it, enough I put my money where my 'interest' was and had one made.

We have so many rubber stamped 'Indy' jackets floating around, why NOT expand our horizons and include something different from the film series in our collections?

Yes, I did have issues with the QC on the cuffs, but that said, everything else was dead on regarding details from Wested if you're interested in picking up one of these items. He DID have the patterns 3 years ago, and should still have them somewhere.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:18 pm

True, I agree there

CM · Post by CM » Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:29 pm

Thanks Holt, good captures. And Michaelson - nice to know the repo looked legit.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:45 pm

Michaelson, did you just ask for the jacket or did you provide photos?

Isn't it about time we saw some photos of it?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:46 pm

Peter worked from these exact same photos that Holt posted.

Pictures? what's that?

Regards! Michaelson

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:48 pm

OK thanks. So he made a pattern for you.

The Fedora jacket to me sometimes looks dark brown other times black. Anyone know which it is?
Is the collar with a suede insert or is that cloth/wool?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 pm

Yes, he did.

From all reports, it was black. I had mine made out of black 'new finish' cowhide, though the original was lambskin (so we were told). The collar was nubuck wrapped in the lambskin (or cowhide), as is mine.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:54 pm

it actually reminds me of a longer version of the steranko jacket.

I think the original leather is lambskin. really reminds me of the old english lambskin peter used to use.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:55 pm

Agreed, Eric!

Regards! Michaelson

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:15 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:it actually reminds me of a longer version of the steranko jacket.

I think the original leather is lambskin. really reminds me of the old english lambskin peter used to use.

I don't see the steranko jacket in it much.

when you say old english lambskin, looking at the jacket in photos you must means some kind of capeskin glove leather

CM · Post by CM » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:38 pm

I always wondered what the collar was. Now I know. Has anyone else had one made?

It's like a car coat but with an interesting film pedigree. I guess I liek it because I like longer leather jackets.

Cheers - CM

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:45 pm

It is car coat like.
The length, collar and button front without zipper added reminds me of a 'Barn' coat.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:16 am

Perfect description. That's why I wanted one, as it's the perfect length to wear on those cold Plymouth seats in cooler weather.

There's a reason they were/are called 'car coats'.

Regard! Michaelson

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:13 am

I have a black car coat that is certainly a close enough if I ever want to go with a Fedora costume. Of course, the problem with that is if I'm in a brown fedora, black leather jacket, khaki colored pants and wearing a map case people will call me Indiana Jones all day long!

And to boot, he wore his bag outside the jacket.

Indy must have finally remembered this later in life.

Though Fedora quickly "lost" his bag somewhere along the chase based on the other pictures posted by Holt.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:15 am

That bag moved in and out of his jacket more than Indy's did in the Streets of Cairo fight, didn't ?

If you'll notice, it's INSIDE his jacket in the cave (check the photo from the back of the jacket above), but in the photo immediately above where he runs out of the cave chasing Indy, it's OUTSIDE his jacket...then on the train, it's completely gone.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:20 am

Gotta love the bags. First, they didn't even exist yet. Then, they have a mind of their own moving all around.

But that coat, yeah, Fedora's coat. Cool stuff.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:29 am

This is certainly interesting as I'm a fan of car coats (spent quite a while tracking down the Dean Winchester/Supernatural car coat) and I like the Indy connection.

Would you people stop uncovering more jackets for me to want?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:31 am

But....that's our job! It's what we DO! $\:D/$

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:40 am

So is the topic Fedora's Leather jacket or Abner's Car Coat?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:44 am

Could be they're one and the same....

Regard! Michaelson

T.S. · Post by **T.S.** » Fri May 13, 2011 6:16 am

I really need to find the time to study it in more detail but work has me snowed under so I've barely looked at any of my mail. However in the corner I have the latest creation of Indy Magnoli and it is magnificent. Light rain is forecast for the weekend so I'll be wearing for a stroll very soon.

He actually has some pics of it up on his site:

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Post by **Michaelson** » Fri May 13, 2011 8:14 am

I didn't know Indy made those. VERY nice. Looks exactly like my Wested prototype, including the nubuck collar, though mine is made in new finish cowhide.

If I had the funds to order a jacket from Indy Magnoli, THIS is the jacket I would purchase....right down to the goatskin hide.

Regards! Michaelson

T.S. · Post by **T.S.** » Fri May 13, 2011 11:12 am

This one is the first Indy has done as far as I know but hopefully there will be a lot more to come.

I got in contact with him a few months ago with a few grainy screencaps and an order for a custom leather jacket and this is what came back.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri May 13, 2011 11:15 am

I hope so too. Like I said, Wested made a prototype for me several years ago, but never followed up on the line.

Indy was just getting into the business himself, so I never approached him with the project.

I'm pleased you did. It's a great looking jacket, and knowing Indy's product (owning a couple items in cloth myself from him), I KNOW the quality is top drawer.

The only thing I would add/suggest to the design is to have one or two zippered inside pockets, as ALL the pockets are open top. Things tend to fall out unless you have at least ONE that you can close up.

Like I said, if I were buying a jacket from him, this is the only one I would buy myself. I've always had an affinity for the 'Fedora' Utah jacket, and always will.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Fri May 13, 2011 12:05 pm

Ooooo, the Utah Jacket. Great looking jacket and I love the name.

Well done all involved.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Fri May 13, 2011 12:30 pm

That is one HANDSOME jacket by Magnoli... VERY nice work!

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri May 13, 2011 12:38 pm

Hey, I have a birthday coming up next thursday, and wear size 44R, if anyone is looking for any ideas.....

Regards! Michaelson