I recently aquired two new stockwhips and tiday was the first day I had to really play with them...and I just beat the snot out of myself!!!
I'm no spring chicken when it comes to whips but this is my first ever attempt at stock whips. I have several bullwhips and snakewhips and though I knew there would be some adjustment, my ego told me ,"You got this..."
Well now I'm nursing my lashed legs, arm, left ear and ego.
So am I just having an off day or are there any particular nuances when handling a true stockwhip? I have a nylon cow whip but the handle is only about 7 inches long. I thought it would handle about the same but, so far..OUCH!
Tips and advice please....
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Re: Tips and advice please....
Hi Gorak. Eventhough much people will tell you that bullwhips and stockwhips are handled the same way, they're not. Yes, both whips have a handle, a thong, fall and cracker, and yes, you have to make both types of whips move in similar ways to make them crack.
In my opinion, there are some differences between these whips:
Bullwhip
- When handling a bullwhip, what you usually do, is you just put your thumb and your index finger around the handle right over the knob. The knob rotates freely inside your palm when you swing and cut the whip back to make it crack. There is little wrist action to aid the whip when cracking.
- When making a flick, you hold the knob firmly, but the handle is always aligned with your forearm.
Stockwhip
- When handling a stockwhip, you must grab the knob firmly, holding it at a 90° angle with your forearm. You swing and cut, and then you use your wrist to move the handle away from you to make it crack at the end of this movement.
- When making, let's say an overhand flick, you hold the knob firmly inside your palm and you almost want it to remain static, at a 90° angle with your forearm. You place the thong in front of you, pull it back, let it take off, continue moving the handle to the back and then up. You stop when the handle is perpendicular to the ground, and let the thong roll out and crack.
- With stockwhips, you can do things you can't with a bullwhip. For example, you can make underhand flicks by holding the handle parallel to the ground, sticking out of one of your sides (as in the "cow and calf" crack).
That's how I would describe those little differences between handling a bullwhip and a stockwhip.
Hope it helps.
Aldo
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In my opinion, there are some differences between these whips:
Bullwhip
- When handling a bullwhip, what you usually do, is you just put your thumb and your index finger around the handle right over the knob. The knob rotates freely inside your palm when you swing and cut the whip back to make it crack. There is little wrist action to aid the whip when cracking.
- When making a flick, you hold the knob firmly, but the handle is always aligned with your forearm.
Stockwhip
- When handling a stockwhip, you must grab the knob firmly, holding it at a 90° angle with your forearm. You swing and cut, and then you use your wrist to move the handle away from you to make it crack at the end of this movement.
- When making, let's say an overhand flick, you hold the knob firmly inside your palm and you almost want it to remain static, at a 90° angle with your forearm. You place the thong in front of you, pull it back, let it take off, continue moving the handle to the back and then up. You stop when the handle is perpendicular to the ground, and let the thong roll out and crack.
- With stockwhips, you can do things you can't with a bullwhip. For example, you can make underhand flicks by holding the handle parallel to the ground, sticking out of one of your sides (as in the "cow and calf" crack).
That's how I would describe those little differences between handling a bullwhip and a stockwhip.
Hope it helps.
Aldo
http://elasticrods.wordpress.com
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Re: Tips and advice please....
Thank you so much for the response..I figured that there had to some type of adjustment as the handle length alone was different not to mention the way the whip is attatched to the handle I felt made some kind of difference. I have seen people do amazing things with stockwhips and I spent yesterday working on it and it really felt much different than my bullwhips. I will take your advice to practice...thank you very much.
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Re: Tips and advice please....
I got my 8' bullwhip out for the first time in a couple weeks yesterday, ( had been using a 6 practicing multiples ) and the first thingGorak wrote:Thank you so much for the response..I figured that there had to some type of adjustment as the handle length alone was different not to mention the way the whip is attatched to the handle I felt made some kind of difference. I have seen people do amazing things with stockwhips and I spent yesterday working on it and it really felt much different than my bullwhips. I will take your advice to practice...thank you very much.
i tried was an underhand flick, and i popped my ear
But after that, i never popped myself with it again, all it took was that first throw to get used to it.
You will with your stockwhip also, i know it's not quite the same as 2 different bullwhips, but it'll come just keep trying
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Re: Tips and advice please....
My advice; Quit hittin' yourself!
Seriously, we've all been through the pain of learning. In your case, you get to be a beginner all over again. I found a stock whip to handle very differently from a bullwhip. (Actually, I even had trouble when I first switched from cowhide to a heavy roo.) Fortunately, I used a short nylon version and didn't lash myself. When I finally have my own, though, I expect to be a bit clumsy at first.
Seriously, we've all been through the pain of learning. In your case, you get to be a beginner all over again. I found a stock whip to handle very differently from a bullwhip. (Actually, I even had trouble when I first switched from cowhide to a heavy roo.) Fortunately, I used a short nylon version and didn't lash myself. When I finally have my own, though, I expect to be a bit clumsy at first.
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Re: Tips and advice please....
There's nothing wrong with hitting yourself, just as long as your don't start liking itChewbacca Jones wrote:My advice; Quit hittin' yourself!
Seriously, we've all been through the pain of learning. In your case, you get to be a beginner all over again. I found a stock whip to handle very differently from a bullwhip. (Actually, I even had trouble when I first switched from cowhide to a heavy roo.) Fortunately, I used a short nylon version and didn't lash myself. When I finally have my own, though, I expect to be a bit clumsy at first.