I got shot with rubber bullets with my Wested

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:07 am

'Hear hear' to both your safe escape, and to Peter's work for you.

HIGH regards! Michaelson

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:15 am

Just wanted to show you this picture taken this morning on Tahrir Square in Cairo, where the protesters concentrate and are camped. It shows Egyptian christians protecting their fellow muslims while they are praying, in case there are clashes. Although I am agnostic (no religion), I do believe in God. And things like this touch your heart.

(Photo by Nevine Zaki)

Travner Ravenweird · Post by **Travner Ravenweird** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:17 am

Wow! What a first post for my first check in in a few days!
I've been following this as much as possible on Democracy Now http://www.democracynow.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So glad you're safe and let me add my

to what has previously been posted.

Now, may I be the fisrt to say How about a drink? The first round is on me

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:22 am

tekors, so glad to hear that you're out of Egypt.

How are the wounds doing?

afterthedog · Post by **afterthedog** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:41 pm

tekors wrote:Egyptian christians protecting their fellow muslims while they are praying

Kudos to the Christians for their truly Christian attitude. If more of us were like this we would live in a wonderful world indeed.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:34 am

Travner Ravenweird wrote:Wow! What a first post for my first check in in a few days!
I've been following this as much as possible on Democracy Now http://www.democracynow.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So glad you're safe and let me add my to what has previously been posted.

Now, may I be the fisrt to say How about a drink? The first round is on me

Travner,

Deal... but you get whiskey... and I get tequila...
Sorry mate, as a good latin american, I prefer the Cuervo shots!!!

cheers

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:52 am

Canyon wrote:tekors, so glad to hear that you're out of Egypt.

How are the wounds doing?

Hey Canyon,

My small wounds are healing ok. I have bruises in my chest and left arm... but each deay getting better.

Thanks for asking

teko

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:05 am

Guys,

I asked Peter to make my jacket as following:

- Raiders of the Lost Ark model
- size 44
- Dark brown in soft goatskin
- inside leather facing
- Rectangular sliders with X-box stitching
- Yoke and arm seams not lined up
- Larger sized cargo pockets
- ONE PIECE (small) underarm gussets
- Slit inside pocket
- Snap button to the bottom of storm flap (hidden)
- Standard Raiders collar going HALFWAY the zipper and the storm flap
- Cotton liner to the body, and satin to sleeves (the liner at the sleeves holes not covering the inside leather)

teko

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:55 pm

Teko, you're welcome.

BTW, the jacket sounds gorgeous.

Post by **Dr. Nebraska S.** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:26 pm

Tekors, I'm very pleased and relieved to hear that you made it safely to Beirut!

"made it safely to Beirut" isn't a phrase I expected to ever say...

I'll join in with the drinks to offer a toast to your safety and to the well-being of the Egyptians.

Best wishes,
Nebraska Schulte

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:54 pm

Nebraska Schulte wrote:Tekors, I'm very pleased and relieved to hear that you made it safely to Beirut!

"made it safely to Beirut" isn't a phrase I expected to ever say...

I'll join in with the drinks to offer a toast to your safety and to the well-being of the Egyptians.

Best wishes,
Nebraska Schulte

Thanks Nebraska,
Get that top of the shelf bottle behind the Peruvian idol and pour two glasses

To the Egyptians!!!
cheers
teko

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:16 am

Guys,

Just talked to Peter over the phone. He said my jacket will have to be in a bit lighter brown shade... he doesn't have the very very dark brown. He said it's still dark brown though in goatskin.

I asked him if it was the same shade as my standard lambskin, he said yes. So, I think is very dark, because mine is dark in depending the light. Sometimes get lighter when the sunlight hits the jacket.
This picture was taken 2 years ago, the very next day after I left Peter' shop with my brand new Wested:

or here, more recently:

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:21 am

It will be a good jacket, regardless of shade of brown, and will quickly become your new best friend. Goatskin jackets just do that, regardless of maker.

Regard! Michaelson

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:26 am

Michaelson wrote:It will be a good jacket, regardless of shade of brown, and will quickly become your new best friend. Goatskin jackets just do that, regardless of maker.

Regard! Michaelson

Excellent

Michaelson always know things

Anyways, I asked him if it was the same shde as the picture shown in his website. he said "yes".

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:32 am

OUTSTANDING!!!

Look forward to pics of the new arrival! And congrats on getting out of there!

Regards!
Indydawg

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:38 am

Great deal.

the dark brown soft goat sould be very much like the color in your bottom picture.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:46 am

Indiana Holt wrote:Great deal.

the dark brown soft goat sould be very much like the color in your bottom picture.

Cool Holt...
I sent him the list of specs (copied from other topics here). And Peter said it will be a 80's slim cut.

Indydawg,
thanks mate...

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:01 am

so, your going for a raiders this time?

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:06 am

Indiana Holt wrote:so, your going for a raiders this time?

Yes, my favourite... very excited to have it.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:12 am

good choice

my favorite too.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:33 am

I saw the pics of your dark thick lambskin...
That's a very very nice jacket you've got.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:47 am

Thanks dude. you hve seen my goatskin wested? it is even better then the lamb. stronger and better constructed. I asked wested to reinforce the jacket from the inside. they did. it is extremely well made.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:20 am

Indiana Holt wrote:Thanks dude. you hve seen my goatskin wested? it is even better then the lamb. stronger and better constructed. I asked wested to reinforce the jacket from the inside. they did. it is extremely well made.

Hmmm... any thread here with the pics of this jacket???

Curious to check it out...

When you say "reinforce".... do you mean the seams of the liner, etc... form inside?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:24 am

They need to make that jacket STRONG for you, as we all know it's going to be used in the field in real world situations.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:25 am

well, there is an 11 page long thread on that jacket.

it's on page two or three.

no, not the liner, inside under the liner. ask them to do reinforced outside stitch endings. like armpits, vents, yoke, pockets, shoulders.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:28 am

Ah, i got it guys...

Will send en email to Peter right away with this...
Thanks

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:02 pm

tekors,
So glad to hear you're okay and made it out in one piece. I just started following your thread yesterday as I've been off the boards the past few weeks. I bet you're counting your lucky stars as you know some people did not fare as well as you. Someone upstairs must like you. And I'm so glad to hear that Peter is getting you another jacket.

Take care and be safe.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:47 pm

JC,

Thanks mate... yes, I guess someone likes me... and I wasn't with my lucky hat.

Many of my coleagues got arrested, beaten, robbed... i took some measures to avoid being caught, low profile.

cheers

Post by **Dr. Nebraska S.** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:56 pm

Tekors, if you don't mind me posting this...
For those of you interested in seeing the latest info about how the antiquities are holding up in the midst of all of this, you may want to check out this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=50165

Because of the closely related topics, I'm also putting a link over there to this thread, too.

Best wishes,
NS

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:08 pm

Good... they are related indeed...

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:39 am

Holt,

I had a look on your goatskin jacket... wow, amazing.

I sent Peter another email asking for the backpanel to be lined up with the yoke. I hope Peter doesn't bother

... I called him 3 times, sent him many emails. Just want my jacket to be really nice. I asked for the specs I listed before and said it was Holt's specs (not dimensions of course, although I am size 44).

I can't wait to have it. Then a nice shower in cold water, only from the outside, a soft brushing, and then some sandpaper on themain parts just to give the well worn touch. THe rest is natural distressing (that doesn't include bullets this time

)

Post by **Holt** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:34 am

be carefull with the sandpapering tho. it can rip the sewing thread. i would just soak it and wear it. a good hot soak will kill the shine and make it look really nice and worn in.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:42 am

Indiana Holt wrote:be carefull with the sandpapering tho. it can rip the sewing thread. i would just soak it and wear it. a good hot soak will kill the shine and make it look really nice and worn in.

Holt,

I did it on my Wested "bullet holes" lambskin... I used a fine sandpaper and did it with care, being carefull not to sandpaper right over the sewings. But I do love the distressed spots... will do it, but carefully.

About washing the jacket. I used cold water on my current jacket and let it dry naturally. Doesn't warm water shrink the jacket? Only hot water kill the shine?

another question... after i wash and sandpaper the jacket, I would leave it to distress naturally overtime. Should I use Pecard right after the wash/sandpaper? Or can i wait after some time? I don't think I can find Pecard in Beirut, will have to order it form Todd's...

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:35 pm

So, here's an update of requirements I asked Peter to do on my new Wested Raiders dark brown soft goatskin, after tips form Holt and Michaelson. I hope Peter gets the email and read it...

- Raiders of the Lost Ark model, 80's slim cut
- size 44
- Dark brown in soft goatskin
- Inside leather facing (don't need to be wide, just enough to keep the zipper form snagging the liner)
- Rectangular sliders with X-box stitching
- Yoke and arm seams not lined up
- Backpanel lined up with the yoke
- Larger sized cargo pockets
- ONE PIECE (small) underarm gussets
- Slit inside pocket
- Snap button to the bottom of storm flap (hidden)
- Standard Raiders LONG collar going HALFWAY the zipper and the storm flap
- Cotton liner to the body, and satin to sleeves (the liner at the sleeve holes not close to the edge, not covering all the inside leather)
- Reinforce stitch endings like armpits, vents, yoke, pockets, shoulders

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:25 pm

Just a word to the wise....don't go TOO overboard on this.

All I said was be sure to tell them to make it strong.

As I understand this, Wested is replacing your jacket on their dime, right? Don't overdo and make them regret their gracious offer. If you're paying for it, well and good, but if not.....well, you may want to let this be your last request and let the cards fall as they may now.

Just a suggestion. If they incorporate all your requested points above, you'll have a very nice jacket indeed.

Regards! Michaelson

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:17 pm

Michaelson wrote:Just a word to the wise....don't go TOO overboard on this. All I said was be sure to tell them to make it strong.

As I understand this, Wested is replacing your jacket on their dime, right? Don't overdo and make them regret their gracious offer. If you're paying for it, well and good, but if not.....well, you may want to let this be your last request and let the cards fall as they may now.

Just a suggestion. If they incorporate all your requested points above, you'll have a very nice jacket indeed.

Regards! Michaelson

Good point M.

I told Peter your advise was the reinforce and make it strong, not the list I post it.
I am paying for it, with a discount. I don't mind paying more, as long as I have the specs I need. Peter has his work and he has the right to ask the amount for it, that's fair.

Will call Peter tomorrow to make sure he is ok with it. If needed, I will pay the price he ask for this requirements. As we say in Brazil, what is right is right!!!

Thanks for pointing this out M.

Post by **Holt** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:46 pm

better call on friday. Peter is usually not in on thursdays..

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:55 pm

Thanks Holt,
Will do..

I already sent Peter an email regarding this question. I don't want to abuse his good will. I really don't mind paying more. Just didn't realise that I was asking so much stuff. Good that Michaelson brought my attention to this.

have you seen my question regarding the warm/cold water? Would like your thoughts about it..

best
teko

Post by **Holt** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:05 pm

it doesn't really matter wheter its cold or not. the point is getting the leather fibers wet and when the skin dries the fibers tighten up and shrink alittle. the only thing you do NOT want to do is to speed dry it with hot air or something. that you will regret.

you actually do not need to use pecards right away on a goatskin. the jacket will tell you when she needs the pecards. I like to pecard my jackets once a year. the goatskin will be pecarded once every 3rd year or something. goat is REALLY hardwearing. I have seen a 60 year old goatskin jacket that looked brand new compared to a 60 yeard old cowhide.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:10 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:it doesn't really matter wheter its cold or not. the point is getting the leather fibers wet and when the skin dries the fibers tighten up and shrink alittle. the only thing you do NOT want to do is to speed dry it with hot air or something. that you will regret.

you actually do not need to use pecards right away on a goatskin. the jacket will tell you when she needs the pecards. I like to pecard my jackets once a year. the goatskin will be pecarded once every 3rd year or something. goat is REALLY hardwearing. I have seen a 60 year old goatskin jacket that looked brand new compared to a 60 yeard old cowhide.

Aha, I understand... well, I was planning the cold water shower and then natural drying, no hot air.
As for the pecard, good to know about the goatskin and how resilient it is.
Thanks Holt for the insight...

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:34 pm

tekors wrote:
Michaelson wrote:Just a word to the wise....don't go TOO overboard on this. All I said was be sure to tell them to make it strong.

As I understand this, Wested is replacing your jacket on their dime, right? Don't overdo and make them regret their gracious offer. If you're paying for it, well and good, but if not.....well, you may want to let this be your last request and let the cards fall as they may now.

Just a suggestion. If they incorporate all your requested points above, you'll have a very nice jacket indeed.

Regards! Michaelson
Good point M.

I told Peter your advise was the reinforce and make it strong, not the list I post it.
I am paying for it, with a discount. I don't mind paying more, as long as I have the specs I need. Peter has his work and he has the right to ask the amount for it, that's fair.
Will call Peter tomorrow to make sure he is ok with it. If needed, I will pay the price he ask for this requirements. As we say in Brazil, what is right is right!!!

Thanks for pointing this out M.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:56 pm

Guys,

Wish me luck. Tomorrow morning I will be heading to Cairo for another week there....

Best
tekors

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:57 pm

Oh, my! Keep safe and take a thicker jacket this time!

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:08 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:Oh, my! Keep safe and take a thicker jacket this time!

I am actually takin the old Wested "bullet holes" lambskin again...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:08 pm

May as well. It's already been ventilated.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:13 pm

Michaelson wrote:May as well. It's already been ventilated.

Yes M.
I guess is one of Peter's special edition jackets....for warmer days

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:15 pm

Yes Tekors, be safe!

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:15 pm

He USED to call his lambskin jackets his 'summer leather'....but I somehow don't think THAT'S what he MEANT!

Man, THAT was a lifetime ago. His lambskin was 'summer weight', and his pre-distressed cowhide his winter weight. That was it.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:36 pm

stay safe my friend!

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:11 pm

Please be careful and keep us posted!!!