*updated* New Whip

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:09 pm

Just thought I'd try and show a few pics of my latest work.

Granted it is not an Indy style bullwhip, but it is sweeet! Makes that Tasmanian Cutback a lot easier. I will make the second handle next week. Then I've have a matched set as I already have the thong completed.

It is a 4.5' natural tan 8 plait thong, 24" horsehide fall, and 18" graphite handle 16 plait in whiskey and natural tan. The keeper wrapping is covered with a french wrap and a 6 bight turks head and a spanish ring knot. This covers the sinew wrapped keeper attachment.

Will be working on a couple of 8' whiskey Indy bulls later this weekend. Will post pictures when they are done.

Hope this link thing works.
http://members16.clubphoto.com/jerry756 ... 1afa.phtml

Keep 'em cracking,

Jerry R

http://members16.clubphoto.com/jerry756 ... 1afa.phtml

This is the pictures of the 8' Whiskey Indy

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:51 pm

very nice whip! i used that same french wrap to cover the sinew on a stockwhip of mine. It was my sectond whip but i "upgraded it" a little bit. Jerry, your whips always look very nice, cant wait to see thoes bulls.
kindest regards
mola

Dittmer · Post by **Dittmer** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:43 pm

Beautiful work! The more I see of your whips the more I think I need to add one of your whips to my collection.
-Dittmer

Indiana_Hall · Post by **Indiana_Hall** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:31 pm

Jerry,

That is a really good lookin' whip you've got there. You do awesome work - keep it up.
On another note, how well does it crack. For that matter, how well does horsehide work as a fall? One final question: What in the world is the Tasmanian Cutback?

High Regards, Indiana_Hall

racerx · Post by **racerx** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:03 pm

Jerry,

that is a one Be-autiful Stockwhip, love the patterns,

how does Graphite compare to cane with a steel insert?

absolutely sweeeet whip.

ATB

Jim J.

Robert Duke · Post by **Robert Duke** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:28 pm

Indiana_Hall wrote: What in the world is the Tasmanian Cutback?

That basically said is a crack behind the back. To say it more succinctly. one handed version is a 3 crack combination #1 Circus/cattleman's crack; #2 Back crack of the Fast Figure 8; & #3 Behind the back crack.

To make it more difficult do it with two whips at the same time and cracking the whips behind your back without tangling the whips behind you.

Good work Jerry.

It looks llike you've been taking notes from Chris Barr's notebook

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:22 pm

Jerry,
Great job on the stocks. I like the handle and the knot work.

-Sergei

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:19 pm

Howdy all,

Just takin' a break and thought I would answer a few questions.

Molo - thanks buddy. Did you ever get your soap recipe worked out? Have you started any more whips or are you out there crackin' those you already have?

Indiana_Hall
On another note, how well does it crack. For that matter, how well does horsehide work as a fall? One final question: What in the world is the Tasmanian Cutback?

I_Hall - Had a little fine tuning to do on the fall and keepers. Talked t Chris Barr and he suggested folding the keepers. Allows better overall movement of the thong. Also put on a shorter cracker. It works like a champ now!!

Jury is still out on the horsehide for falls, but so far no problems. I have made a number of whips with it and everyone seems to think it is fine. It is a little tighter fiber than cowhide, so we'll see how it stands up.

Robert answered the Tasmanian Cutback better than I could have, and he does it much better than I do! I've tried that two-handed TC like Mike Murphy does in his 'gunslinger routine' and keep wrapping the thongs around my head! Something about bending forward gets me all gill-fluted.

racerx
how does Graphite compare to cane with a steel insert?

Jim - The handle core is made from a graphite fishing rod. I cut the bottom end of the rod off and shove it down inside the part cut for the handle. That gives it a little more strength and still a fair amount of flex. Not quite as much as a good lined cane handle, but there is not an over abundance of tohiti cane growing here in South Texas. <chuckle> Then I build up the handle so that it has a little sharper taper and plait over that.

Sergei
Great job on the stocks. I like the handle and the knot work.

Sergi - Thanks for the kind words. I absolutly love that 20 part 16 bight knot. It closes down to a pin hole so there is nothing exposed on the end. I just doesn't work when putting a hang strap on a whip so I only use it on my stockwhips and long-handled target whips.

Mark - how goes your whip? I keep checking the site looking forward to the next installment. Keep us posted buddy.

Robert - I have been looking at that Barr whip pretty closely, and the 24 plait he has on ebay too. That one is sweeeet! Should end up going for over $500.00 if it keeps going. Glad I got my 6x12x16 for #200.00! He is sending me three whips later on that he has had in a tack shop in Ca. that hasn't sold them yet. I'll let you know when I get them. Hopefully I'll have them before the March whip gathering in Dalllas and I'll bring them along.

Since it's raining here and not much need for irrigation, I have been working on the 8'ers. Had to take a break and get my mind settled down. Just broke a strand on the second belly. Talk about an attitude changer! Also need to go find my fid somewhere in the garage. That was the closest thing to throw, now I gotta go find it.

Keep 'em crackin'.

Jerry R

ecwhips · Post by **ecwhips** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:55 pm

Hey Jerry,

Just wanted to chime in with my praise of that fine looking whip. That handle is absolutely beautiful! Nice job!

Jim

Paul_Stenhouse · Post by **Paul_Stenhouse** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:01 pm

Jerry,

There's fellow in Florida who sells manua cane, which he thinks is better than toheti. His name is Nano, and if you search for Nano's polo mallets, you'll no doubt find him. The cane comes cut to length but otherwise unaltered. That is if you're looking for cane!

I was only able to view to of the pictures, but they did look nice. I'm curious to hear more about the horsehide falls.

Best Regards,

Paul Stenhouse

Indiana_Hall · Post by **Indiana_Hall** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:08 pm

Jerry,

Many thanks for the feedback. FYI, something else that works for stockwhip handles are 1/4" cold-rolled steel rods covered over in 1/2" plastic tubing. That's what I use on my nylon stocks.

Robert,

Thanks for explaining the Tasmanian Cutback. I've heard of and done that crack, just under a different name. Yeah, I see where the shorter whips come in handy for the tricks. I've had falls tangle in the process - not a good thing when doing a demonstration. The really bad thing is that I can't jump-rope.

High Regards, Indiana_Hall

The_Edge · Post by **The_Edge** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:14 pm

jerryrwm wrote: Just broke a strand on the second belly. Talk about an attitude changer! Also need to go find my fid somewhere in the garage. That was the closest thing to throw, now I gotta go find it.

LOL! Been there and done that far too many times myself.

Nice looking whip though. Very nice.

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:23 am

Thanks Kyle, appreciate the kudos.

And of course the strand that I broke wasn't one of the dropping strands, Oh no, it was one of the long ending strands. So I back plaited about 4 - 5" and skived and plaited the strand in so I could finish.

Oh yeah, I found that fid. It wasn't where I thought it went though. Those things apparently ricochet.

Jerry

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:48 pm

Just finished this one about 2:00 am Sun morn.

I gotta find a better place to load pictures to, or get me a real website.

Anyway, this one is 8'5" whiskey. It has an 8" cold rolled steel handle, shot-loaded and rolled leather core. 4 plait and 6 plait bellies, 2 bolsters, and the 12 plait overlay. Traditional indy style turk's heads, and a 6 plait flat hang strap and a 32" horsehide fall.

It is solid, dense, and heavy. It cracks easily, and is accurate for targets.

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keep 'em crackin'

Jerry R

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:55 pm

Paul,

Thanks for the heads up on the cane. I didn't realize those things were that expensive! Heck you could buy a real nice whip for the price of some of those polo mallets! And probably have a lot more fun without having to feed the dang horse.

So far the horse hide has been performing very well. I have it on three stockwhips, and two target whips, plus I've sent out two 4' bullwhips and two 4' snakewhips with horsehide falls. No problems yet. Just have to grease the fool out of it. as it is very dry.

Thanks again for the cane info.

Jerry

Paul_Stenhouse · Post by **Paul_Stenhouse** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:42 pm

Dear Jerry,

I buy just the handle blanks cut into 18-20 inch lengths. I think they sold them to me for about $2 a piece.

Best Regards,

Paul Stenhouse

Robert Duke · Post by **Robert Duke** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:38 pm

jerryrwm wrote:I didn't realize those things were that expensive! Heck you could buy a real nice whip for the price of some of those polo mallets! Thanks again for the cane info.

If Paul says he pays $2 to $3 for the blanks maybe we should make Polo mallets along with our "line of whips"

Paul, How do you like the quality of the cane? I'd be interested in following that up with Nano's manua cane someday. I still have a good quantity of toheti cane left. Is manua pronounced like manure? If someone was from the Deep South that might say it like that.

Paul_Stenhouse · Post by **Paul_Stenhouse** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:27 pm

Hi Robert,

I think manure is pretty close to the pronunciation! Gave me a chuckle reading that.

I like the cane, but haven't tried shaving it down, since the yardwhips that I'm selling are of a 'rougher' in construction, and I'm not spending much time with the handle. About the only thing I'll do is take off any rough spots likely to catch your hand on, but I haven't seen any yet. It is flexible, and in the thickness I have it (3/4th's of an inch) seems pretty good. If you get some and shave it down, let me know if you can break it. My wife played polo for years in college and told me that the handles were really tough stuff and she didn't have many, if at all, break on her.

You'll have to talk directly with Nano, because his wife's english is poor. He travels the asia often enough to scout out quality, so getting him may be hit or miss.

Best Regards,

Paul Stenhouse

PS. Sorry to hijack your post, Jerry.

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