The Penman post 'em up Pages....The Adventure Continues...

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:32 pm

Noah, "well worn" doesn't even begin to describe this hat. This hat has literally had all of the snot beat outta it. Truly a champ. Thanks, man.

Dave

fuzzjunk · Post by **fuzzjunk** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:36 pm

DR Ulloa wrote:
Texan Scott wrote:Them floppy Penman's, they ride with you everywhere!

...rollin', rollin', rollin'....

Good to hear from ya', Dave! Don't be a stranger.
Thanks, TS. I try to get on here as much as possible but I seem to have very little time for lounging around these days, which is good, I guess.

fuzzjunk, that hat looks great, man. And more importantly, it looks great on you! I love the color of that hat. I don't think I've ever seen a Raiders hat with a more mellow brown right outta the box. That will fade to a beautiful light brown in a few years. Wear it in good health.

Dave

Thanks Dave,

I took the pic right under a lamp so the color looks lighter then it actually is. Its neat how the lighting gives off that faded look though. I love the look of yours as well, they just seem to get better with age!

Noah wrote:Dave, your hat looks well worn and floppy.

Fuzzjunk, the hat looks amazing! Great job John as always John.
Thanks Noah!

Scott

P.S. Who made that hat? I think I may want to get me one!

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:53 am

fuzzjunk:

Awesome, AWESOME photos of a truly beautiful hat that suits you perfectly!

WELL DONE!
Mitch

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:29 pm

Thanks for the comments guys! Hopefully will get some sun up here in Maine, the weather has been miserable.

Maine ?, how far up, I'm near Portsmouth NH.
Still love the lid, and I second the "at arms length" shot, as it goes your arms must be just the right length.

Croft

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:15 am

BendingOak wrote:Nope, got the screws but the thread guide broke. Cost me $95.00 to have the guy tell ne that. Now I'm waiting for a $2 parts

You can't win!

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:34 am

binkmeisterRick wrote:
BendingOak wrote:Nope, got the screws but the thread guide broke. Cost me $95.00 to have the guy tell ne that. Now I'm waiting for a $2 parts
You can't win!

I can just imagine some guy shaking his head whilst saying, 'Oooooh....cost ya!!'

Ian

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:35 pm

You have no idea, Ian!

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:13 pm

Great looking hat Fuzzjunk...

teko

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:26 pm

Dave,

Loved the pics of your Penman in the car front panel...

very natural, casual, a true Raiders...

teko

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:17 pm

tekors wrote:Dave,

Loved the pics of your Penman in the car front panel...
very natural, casual, a true Raiders...

teko

Thank you. As it should be. That hat is one of John's first ten. I bought it for $200, a discount he extended to his first ten orders. It was reblocked about a year ago. And all I've ever done is wear the thing. It gets brushed when it gets too dirty and thats about it. When it is raining out, this is the only one I go to. It is my rain hat, but so much more too. Like I said before, this is one of three, another Penman and one of my ABs, that I wear most often. Nothing like a Penman on your head.

Dave

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:28 pm

Well done...

fuzzjunk · Post by **fuzzjunk** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:00 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:
Thanks for the comments guys! Hopefully will get some sun up here in Maine, the weather has been miserable.

Maine ?, how far up, I'm near Portsmouth NH.
Still love the lid, and I second the "at arms length" shot, as it goes your arms must be just the right length.

Croft

Thanks Croft, I live in Lisbon about 45min north of Portland and 1hr 30min from Portsmouth.

Scott

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:23 am

Thats not so bad, a few yrs ago I did a mini summit at my home, thinking next summer might be a good time for another, seems theres more and more members close by.

Now back to those awsome shots. $\:D/$

Croft

fuzzjunk · Post by **fuzzjunk** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:40 am

Nice! Let me know if have another, I'd love to go.

-Scott

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:51 am

Hey Oak, would it be possible for you to post a few shots (or a few Links to photos) showing a profile view of that beautiful Penman Last Crusade prototype you were recently perfecting?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:19 pm

If there is a shot it would be on my face book page www.facebook.com/penmanhats

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:28 pm

Much obliged John... Thanks

(And I realize now that even if I needed to ask this question, I likely should have done it specifically in the Last Crusade Prototype Thread you started... sorry 'bout that!)

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:02 pm

No worries.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:37 pm

Texan Scott wrote: But even then, I just don't think today that the Raiders fedora was 5 1/2 open crown. I think the tallest of the Raiders hats was 5 1/4 open crown MAX, with some at 5 inches open crown. I say this because I can make a hat with a 5 inch open crown height, and I can get the 4 1/2 front, 3 3/4 back and 4 3/4 on the sides which looks to be more accurate to most of the film hats.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:13 pm

I don't think it was 5 1/2 myself but it's just a guessing game on everyones part.

The point I was making is that you con not go simply by open crown shape alone. Every time I adjust the block shape or transition point.the open crown height must change.

When someone states that the raiders hat was a certain open crown height. It means nothi g to me without the right block.

I have change my raiders block five times and with three of them the open crown height had to change.

To say the open crown height was 5 1/4 for sure or 5 1/2 for sure or whatever height you think it might be. Means nothing.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:01 pm

No brain drain to identify that you are the hatter, John, and I see what you mean by transition points relative to block tweaks and the small changes you must make in order for the proportions to look right and be sized appropriately. Personally, I've never liked alot of felt material in the center dent, ie a deep, bashed center. The taller the crown, though, the more difficult it is to arrive at say, a 4 1/2" bashed crown in the front. As you pointed out, the transitional point has to be factored into the equasion. I would think that theoretically, if you have a high crown height, the transitional point would be higher on this hat than the transitional point of a lower unbashed crown. Hence, if you want to arrive at a 4 1/2" front bashed crown, with a good, untapered crown, as we have come to know and love, then it would appear that it would be easier to achieve this scenario with a lower unbashed crown than a higher one. It would seem that it is all about keeping the right proportions relative to the transitional point. Not to beat it to death, but it would seem that if you want a hat with little to no taper and you want a higher unbashed crown, then you would need for the transitional point to be higher. A lower bashed crown, keeping a square block shape, then you would need a lower crown with a proportionally lower transitional crown.

As an example, when the Henry first arrived, it is roughly 5 1/2" unbashed. I tried to bash it to a 4 1/2" bashed front. I then had two problems: the center dent was too deep and the sides were tapered, and I believe it was because I had reached the point of no return...ie I had bashed it lower than the transitional point would allow in order to keep straight sides, etc. Had I kept it at say, a 4 3/4" bashed front, the center dent would have been shallower and the sides would have been straighter...because the transitional point was higher on the high unbashed Henry. In my opinion, the total height of the crown and the transitional point has everything to do with where you most prefer the bashed crown vs. at what height you HAVE to bash the crown.

All of that to say that I cannot wear a high crown and need to have a lower crown, etc. Just something I look for.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:00 pm

Tex, you just made the 2500th Post in this Thread (give or take) and closed the door on a fantastic 50 Pages of praise, questions, answers and correspondence on the subject of John's amazing Penman Hats!

Anybody feel like carrying on for another 50 pages?
'Cuz I sure do!

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:35 pm

Mitch LaRue wrote:Anybody feel like carrying on for another 50 pages?
'Cuz I sure do!

I sure do too.

Keep the pics and hats coming!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:33 pm

Mitch LaRue wrote:Tex, you just made the 2500th Post in this Thread (give or take) and closed the door on a fantastic 50 Pages of praise, questions, answers and correspondence on the subject of John's amazing Penman Hats!

Anybody feel like carrying on for another 50 pages?
'Cuz I sure do!

That's amazing, Mitch! I didn't realize...got caught up in crowns, of all things, etc.?

I was just admiring your TNO Last Crusade jacket and many times, I've been taken aback by them. Each one practically deserves its own spot in a museum as works of leather art as much as personal articles of clothing. Hope you will enjoy it for a great many moons!

Just say the word! Here's to another 50...

I know those Penman's are lerking about, so...Post 'em UP!

(Every once and awhile, I'll go back to the first few pages and remember that sense of anticipation and the waiting for these Penman's to start rolling off the assembly line of John's fingers. It's still kinda funny to me, and I want to thank you guys for helping to make it what it is. Everyone should feel welcome to post your new felt creations in this thread, and in doing so, you truely take ownership of a part of it, and the unprecidented choices available in this forum by our talented hatters! Each of you play a part!)

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:37 pm

Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool to see that it was a post by you that ushered in the next "phase" of this great Thread!

(After all, for those who might be reading this who don't know, it was YOU that got this great Thread underway!)

And Scott I know what you mean when you say that you often "remember that sense of anticipation and the waiting for these Penman's to start rolling off the assembly line"...
Every so often I'll jump into this Thread from the Index page and then mistakenly scroll down to the bottom of Page 1 absentmindedly THINKING it's Page 48, 49, 50, whatever... and I see my Comment from back in September of 2008 where I'm saying "Chin Up, kids... I've got a feelin' that TOMORROW you'll ALL be proubly wearing those sharp lids!" because everyone was just chompin' at the bit to get their mits on these beautiful fedoras!

Ahhh... the memories...

Plenty has changed in the last 2 years but one thing's for certain: the quality of John's work and product just keeps getting better & BETTER!

Thanks again for firin' up this Thread, Tex!
ONWARD, Page 51!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:57 pm

....rollin', rollin', rollin'....

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:10 pm

I remember when John was just posting pics of hats he was making before they were for sale. We all kept hounding him to sell them. I would log on every night at around 12:00 or 12:30 pm as that was the time that John was generally on here posting new pics. I was on here specifically at those times because I had a feeling he would be making the announcement that he would officially start selling them. When he did, I was online. He said that the first ten orders would get their hats (then only beaver) for $200. I was the first to respond, within milliseconds too I might add, and got my first Penman for $200 from John. Still my favorite hat, my beaver Raiders hat. Four Penmans later, I still want more! Keep up the good work, my friend. I should give you a call to see what is brewing in the Penman Hat Co. shop. Been a while since we spoke.

Dave

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:28 pm

Thanks Dave. You have the number.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:19 pm

Yes, I do. I have been a bad customer.

Dave

gi_canuck · Post by **gi_canuck** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:21 pm

Woohoo!! Just got my reblocked hat from John Penman!! Awesome work John!! I love it!! Love everything about it! The pouncing work... stitching... Ribbons etc. It looks like a brand new hat and My hat definitely fits me better now. Here's the pic of me wearing it!! Thank you John!!

djd · Post by **djd** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:28 pm

Nice job

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:46 pm

Great re-block!

Does it look too high in the front or too low in the back, though.

Ian

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:55 pm

Ian wrote:Great re-block!

Does it look too high in the front or too low in the back, though.

Ian

Looks good but I agree that the back center got lowered during shipping.

achi11es · Post by **achi11es** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:41 pm

Is that a round oval there?

gi_canuck · Post by **gi_canuck** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm

achi11es wrote:Is that a round oval there?

Yup John used Round oval band block to make it fit my nogging better.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:52 pm

GI, thanks for posting these photos of that fine lid! I don't think John makes any other kind.

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:20 pm

That's a great re-block!

gi_canuck · Post by **gi_canuck** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:42 pm

Thank you everyone... Now I can't wait till my brand new Penman Raiders to come in.... Muahahahaha.... Joy....

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:07 pm

MmmmHaHaahahah!

...what are we laughing about?

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:40 am

I believe he's experiencing one of the symptoms of his newly realized case of Penman Fever.

gi_canuck · Post by **gi_canuck** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:13 am

Mitch LaRue wrote:
I believe he's experiencing one of the symptoms of his newly realized case of Penman Fever.

That's correct.... Hello everyone... my name is GI Canuck and I am a John Penman addic... I mean ENTHUSIAST!!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:14 am

..the first step to recovery is admiting you have an addiction!

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:16 am

Mitch LaRue wrote:
I believe he's experiencing one of the symptoms of his newly realized case of Penman Fever.

Ah yes! I almost died from it while searching for the lost city of Akator. I'm not sure it...wait, sorry. The Penman Fever has got me confusing fact and fiction...hey, how did that leprachaun riding a mastadon break through that teeny tiny door in my cell? Why am I in a cell?

...CURSE YOU JOHN PENMAN AND YOUR CRAZY PENMAN FEVER!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:20 am

....Pennyfart fever is sweeping the nation!!!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:47 am

Texan Scott wrote:....Pennyfart fever is sweeping the nation!!!

I hate that.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:01 am

I have an addiction too, I love my Penman.

One of these day's before Steve retires, I'm gonna have to get me another Penman, just don't know which........ so many desions.

Croft

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:23 pm

I've been meaning to order another Penman Raiders (this one in gray with the black liner) but have been waiting for a job. Of course the CS looks nice too. Like I said a while back; darn you John Penman, why do you have to make such great hats?!?

So many hats, only one head.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:13 am

John,

Just an idea I was thinking about recently...it would be cool to have an ultimate adventure/work hat. Something that had the adventure look, wide brimmed, etc., and was cool/vinted to wear on the gord. I'll soon be going back to Jordan for my third season, so my thoughts are starting to shift to those distant desert scapes...

Bdgsi11 · Post by **Bdgsi11** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:03 pm

Has anyone received a new Penman recently? Things have been kind of quiet around here lately.

jlee562 · Post by **jlee562** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:16 pm

Bdgsi11 wrote:Has anyone received a new Penman recently? Things have been kind of quiet around here lately.

I'm saving for a Black Cherry hat...unfortunately, I just bought another custom hat right before John made the announcement. D'oh!