USW Striated Lamb Legend, US Made

tmurph · Post by **tmurph** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:34 pm

That is a nice looking jacket!

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:56 pm

Hollowpond wrote:I guess I am saying that I want a jacket that looks exactly like this one (US made)

GREAT looking jacket (took the liberty of lifting those from you Weston ). IF the import is going to be less a jacket than this one. Then I am perfectly willing to pony up the extra money to ensure I get a jacket of this quality.

Travis

Good question... I received my first leather Jacket in 1947 and it was a WW11 A-2 and I have been a Collector ever since.. Some collect stamps and then some collect Coins.. I happen to collect Leather Jackets and that is where the Schott family came into Play! All Roz Schott knows is how to make the best leather jacket in the world and that is all Roz Schott Great Grandfather knew.. They are the Masters in the business and have been since 1912.. My other two partners around the world have also been in the business for over 75 years.. I just happen to think Roz Schott Jackets are built like a tank.

Sarge

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:24 pm

Glad you chimed in here Sarge! So are you saying that everything, materials and all, are the same on the import? Same pattern, etc., etc.? I have heard you say the import has a facing, so I know that much is different. But what else, other than one is made in the US by Schott, and the other is made overseas?

Travis

Illinois James · Post by **Illinois James** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:25 pm

No matter where it's made, the jacket in the pictures above are the proof! Who wouldn't want one?

Regardless of price here, I'm going with what I know. My Perfecto feels like armor. I gotta go with the U.S. jacket. I only have to buy the jacket once. I try to buy the best stuff I can afford regardless what it is. I don't want to have to wonder about it afterward.

I know U.S. Wings is going to stand behind what they sell, whatever it's country of origin.

And, Sarge is trying to provide options, I understand that. U.S. manufacturing is expensive.

I work in a union manufacturing facility, and am well paid for what I do. I gotta support that. But that ain't everybody, I know. I have no doubt the import jackets will be outstanding.

Thanks again, Sarge, for this offering. U.S. Wings has so many great choices, so just about any fan can have an outstanding Indy jacket.

I've been excited about this jacket ever since the beginning, and Weston's pictures reveal a jacket that surpasses what I expected, frankly, in terms of 'the look'. I never doubted the quality.

IJ

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:54 pm

Decision made...its gonna be a Schott for me! For both patriotic and quality reasons.

Travis

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:02 pm

Hollowpond, I know exactly what you're saying. That jacket is the one I want. It's gorgeous and screems raiders. I'm amazed at how thick the leather looks. I know it's lamb and that lamb is supposed to be the weakest of leathers but that looks like it could take on the whole German army and still stand up. I'm sold. The color, the colar, the pockets... man, I'm pining for mine right now!!!!

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:43 pm

Have to agree, guys....

Now...where did I put my pint...of plasma

Regards!
Drac.....ahhhh...Indydawg

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:14 am

Mitch LaRue wrote:Just a quick note in order to help avoid confusion for anyone Re-reading (or speed-reading!) through this page:
Ian you credited ME with something that Hollowpond actually wrote.

Ian wrote:
Mitch LaRue wrote:I have already overpaid for the import by $100 thanks to the Wings discount (Myke has said they will refund that! Thanks guys! )
So you've already been contacted and paid for the jacket?
Ian
Again, just to prevent any confusion.

Sorry ol' chap!

Ian

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:30 pm

Hollowpond wrote:Glad you chimed in here Sarge! So are you saying that everything, materials and all, are the same on the import? Same pattern, etc., etc.? I have heard you say the import has a facing, so I know that much is different. But what else, other than one is made in the US by Schott, and the other is made overseas?

Travis

The only reason we put a facing in the imports is ...So our shipping department can tell them apart ! I think the Imported Cow is better and then I think the Lamb Roz has is the best.. Will both of them hold up the same.. I think so ! Roz Schott makes all of My US Military Jackets and Her Family has been making US Military Jackets before WW1 and there is no other Company in the World can make that statement.
With that said I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
Sarge

Baldwyn · Post by **Baldwyn** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:52 pm

This jacket looks so amazing, I can't even see the zipper colour or what side the pull is on

I wish that Schott was making the horsehide jackets! Horsehide and Schott just seem to go together. Maybe I should get two jackets...

Post by **Holt** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:06 pm

well, they are offering Bison which I've heard is even stronger then horse.

and they also have a dark brown american cowhide which is very ineresting to me...

I would love to see either a bison or dark cowhide jacket on a person before I would give my preffered hide choice to Sarge.

thanks again Sarge

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:21 pm

Illinois James wrote:No matter where it's made, the jacket in the pictures above are the proof! Who wouldn't want one?

Regardless of price here, I'm going with what I know. My Perfecto feels like armor. I gotta go with the U.S. jacket. I only have to buy the jacket once. I try to buy the best stuff I can afford regardless what it is. I don't want to have to wonder about it afterward.

I know U.S. Wings is going to stand behind what they sell, whatever it's country of origin.
Thank you!! Roz Schott is the best of the best.
Now for some good news for the Members.. The Kids Raiders Legend Jacket will be up late tonight! Now that is a Hoot..... Just think a Little Raiders Legend and for COW members only $75.00. All others pay $ 149.95.
Sarge

And, Sarge is trying to provide options, I understand that. U.S. manufacturing is expensive.

I work in a union manufacturing facility, and am well paid for what I do. I gotta support that. But that ain't everybody, I know. I have no doubt the import jackets will be outstanding.

Thanks again, Sarge, for this offering. U.S. Wings has so many great choices, so just about any fan can have an outstanding Indy jacket.

I've been excited about this jacket ever since the beginning, and Weston's pictures reveal a jacket that surpasses what I expected, frankly, in terms of 'the look'. I never doubted the quality.

IJ

m.s · Post by **m.s** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:24 pm

This morning I complimented Sarge on the Striated Lamb Legend, which I think looks amazing, and asked him about the possibility of changing the jacket leather when already on the order list. Sarge encouraged me to post his reply for you all.

Sgt. wrote:I have never been a big fan of Striated Lamb because it is so hard to work with and the cost is another story! But with that said I love the look of the Raiders Legend Striated Lamb to the point it looks like I can see Harrison Ford wearing it in the Raiders Movie!
I think the best thing for Myke and I to do is when each and every shipment walks through our Corp. HQ to send out a e-mail and also post and even call each Fan and give them a heads up and let them have the first Decision before we contact our other customers! If Not.. some Fans will not receive theirs ! We have two major customers that will take all of the Raiders Legend jackets we can make and that is no joke!( COW Members come First)
Michaelson has known for over ten years who we are and I ask Him not to tell anyone and He kept the secret.. I let the cat out of the bag and thought it was time .. Roz Schott and I are Business partners and have been.... when it comes to business reality SchottNyc is the best in the world... We are not Small Business but not that big to take care of our Friends at COW.

Regards,
Sarge

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:26 pm

Yep. I have known it all this time.

Unfortunatly, I'm no longer getting reponses from Wings to any email, so I'm getting news from this same area that you are now.

Regards! Michaelson

Canada Jones · Post by **Canada Jones** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:46 pm

Baldwyn wrote:... I wish that Schott was making the horsehide jackets! Horsehide and Schott just seem to go together.

I whole heartedly agree. A bullet proof jacket from a bullet proof factory! I hear US Wings Horsehide is fabulous but I really want a US made jacket so that makes the choice much more difficult.
best
Canada

Forrest For the Trees · Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:17 pm

So if we placed an order for Calfskin, via the form we filled out a few months back, we should still get a call/e-mail regarding changing our order? Just trying to clarify. Since calf does not seem to be an option anymore (and since it probably was not the original leather in the first place), I would change my order to the American-made Striated Lamb. There must be others in the same boat.

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 pm

Forrest For the Trees wrote:So if we placed an order for Calfskin, via the form we filled out a few months back, we should still get a call/e-mail regarding changing our order? Just trying to clarify. Since calf does not seem to be an option anymore (and since it probably was not the original leather in the first place), I would change my order to the American-made Striated Lamb. There must be others in the same boat.

We should but I would call/email before waiting. Just to be on the safe side that the order is changed and confirmed.

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:36 pm

Forrest For the Trees wrote:So if we placed an order for Calfskin, via the form we filled out a few months back, we should still get a call/e-mail regarding changing our order? Just trying to clarify. Since calf does not seem to be an option anymore (and since it probably was not the original leather in the first place), I would change my order to the American-made Striated Lamb. There must be others in the same boat.

Roz and I are still looking for the right Calfskin.. It must be 100 % or we will not make it until we find the right leather that we both like! Look how long it took for that right Striated Lamb!!
Sarge

Gringo · Post by **Gringo** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:58 am

That was very sweet Kelly, Todds a lucky man!
Sarge, should I change my order from calf to cow?

Cheers to you,
Billy

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:26 am

Well, it's like taking a gamble, and for me I folded.

I was on the list for a Calf. We've not really seen the calf skin, but we've seen / heard loads about the lamb. The lamb looks absolutely amazing and had me practically salivating on my keyboard.

I know the Calf will be amazing as well, because Sarge has certainly delivered on the Lamb, but I emailed Myke and asked to switch anyway. The 'We covet the things we see everyday' rule overcame me.

I'll probably get an itch to get the calf when we see it as well.

Ian

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:46 pm

This SL Legend is going to be available for a while isn't it? I have this fear that this particular hide is going to vanish before I can save up the "Indy Bucks" to order one for myself.

Has Weston done anything else beyond just wearing the jacket and breaking it in? Each time I see pics of the jacket it looks better and better.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:37 pm

Pitfall Harry wrote:This SL Legend is going to be available for a while isn't it? I have this fear that this particular hide is going to vanish before I can save up the "Indy Bucks" to order one for myself.

Has Weston done anything else beyond just wearing the jacket and breaking it in? Each time I see pics of the jacket it looks better and better.

All I've done is wear it Pitfall. I did end up in a heavy rainstorm over a week ago and kept wearing the jacket as it dried and that helped things along. Sometimes I'll knead the leather in my hands, areas like the pockets and storm flap, to help soften it up. That's all.

Weston

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:16 pm

Gringo wrote:That was very sweet Kelly, Todds a lucky man!
Sarge, should I change my order from calf to cow?

Cheers to you,
Billy

Hello Billy,
Roz Schott and I have been searching the world over to come up with a Calfskin we like and to this date no luck... I would think about the Lamb or Cow and or even the Bison! I am looking at My own Horse hide here in my Office and it is as soft as Calfskin and that is also a thought.... No matter what I will not give up on the Calf and will still find the leather that Roz and I both like.
Sarge

Gringo · Post by **Gringo** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:25 am

THANKS FOR THE INFO SARGE, HORSE OR COW I QUESS. I WILL FLIP THE COIN. CHEERS.

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:29 am

Well, I think with the news from Sarge, I will wait for the calf. Whatever young moo they find I am sure will be spectacular! Also that will give me time to get the dinero together...

m.s · Post by **m.s** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:32 pm

Sgt. wrote:I honestly think the key to these economic times are cutting cost i.e. overheard Business and or Home! One can not and should not spend what they do not have.
I am sure before X-Mas I will have all the leathers and styles out for all the Fans to enjoy...
Regards,
Sarge
Do the Fans a favor and post what I just said.. I know a little about business.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:37 am

Well, I have _ to thank for this one! I had other reasons as well, and though this picture may not be up to the usual standards, it shows off the effect well enough for now. I don't usually go for this kind of thing, but I went ahead and sent it through one cold water wash, and just look at the grain! I'll get a better pic up when it's dry!

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5571/dsc03192p.jpg

Weston

Rick Deckard · Post by **Rick Deckard** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:04 am

Wow, is that the striated lamb? I'm assuming it is b/c of the thread the pic. is in. It's much browner looking now than in the original pics. where it has an almost black quality to it. Is that from the washing, or the different lighting being that it's inside and it looks like you used a flash?

Also, any idea when we'll get a look at the dark cowhide Legend?

Thanks, Weston!

Edit: You know, I would never do that to one of my jackets...er, my only jacket...but I have to say that it looks even more like a Raiders jacket now that you've washed it and that grain has popped.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:19 am

Thanks Rick! I'll have pics of the dark cowhide up yet this weekend. This is Striated Lamb, and it's still wet in the picture. The shot is taken inside with a flash, so I'll take an updated pic of me wearing it outside when it dries.

Weston

djd · Post by **djd** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:57 am

Looks interesting.... Looking forward to the pics later. Thanks

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:13 am

Any news on the release date yet? It's getting cold here in the UK.

Ian

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:31 am

Weston, that SOTWSL (StraightOuttaTheWasherStriatedLamb) shot is INSANE... LOVE it!

Looks fantastic, my friend... I can't wait to see it once it dries and "calms down" a little, though...

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:34 am

I agree. its awesome.

I wonder if we can get the same effect by just giving it a cold water soak and then wringe out the grain?

djd · Post by **djd** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:44 am

Pretty sure you would get the same effect as long as the leather is completely saturated. A shower treatment wouldn't do the job.... My magnoli is in the washer as I type...

KingHamlet · Post by **KingHamlet** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:44 am

Pitfall Harry wrote:This SL Legend is going to be available for a while isn't it? I have this fear that this particular hide is going to vanish before I can save up the "Indy Bucks" to order one for myself.

I have the same fear, as it will take me a lot of time to save up for my own Indy jacket at this time and probably won't have the ability to place an order until next summer at the earliest.

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:48 am

KingHamlet wrote:
Pitfall Harry wrote:This SL Legend is going to be available for a while isn't it? I have this fear that this particular hide is going to vanish before I can save up the "Indy Bucks" to order one for myself.
I have the same fear, as it will take me a lot of time to save up for my own Indy jacket at this time and probably won't have the ability to place an order until next summer at the earliest.

I doubt that most people understand what is gong on around the world with Prices But I can remember all to well me saying I would never pay .50 for a Gal. of Gas ! Well here is a major wake up call.. The price of a Leather jacket is going up and going up big time! If You can afford it buy now, Do it no matter who the vendor is! China is buying everything in sight that is not nailed down!! They have the cash thanks in part to the USA.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:22 am

Sgt. wrote:China is buying everything in sight that is not nailed down!! They have the cash thanks in part to the USA.

Yep, it's our cash

KingHamlet · Post by **KingHamlet** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:20 pm

Sgt. wrote:
KingHamlet wrote:
Pitfall Harry wrote:This SL Legend is going to be available for a while isn't it? I have this fear that this particular hide is going to vanish before I can save up the "Indy Bucks" to order one for myself.
I have the same fear, as it will take me a lot of time to save up for my own Indy jacket at this time and probably won't have the ability to place an order until next summer at the earliest.
I doubt that most people understand what is gong on around the world with Prices But I can remember all to well me saying I would never pay .50 for a Gal. of Gas ! Well here is a major wake up call.. The price of a Leather jacket is going up and going up big time! If You can afford it buy now, Do it no matter who the vendor is! China is buying everything in sight that is not nailed down!! They have the cash thanks in part to the USA.

I understand, but I just want to make sure the Shrunken Lamb will stick around. I'm also on a major weight loss, body building tangent right now. I swore to myself that I will never weigh this much again, and I'll be in the best shape of my life in two years. I don't want to make major purchases until I'm in a happy shape.
But I understand what you are saying Sgt., and I agree completely.

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:08 pm

KingHamlet wrote:
Sgt. wrote:
KingHamlet wrote:
Pitfall Harry wrote:This SL Legend is going to be available for a while isn't it? I have this fear that this particular hide is going to vanish before I can save up the "Indy Bucks" to order one for myself.
I have the same fear, as it will take me a lot of time to save up for my own Indy jacket at this time and probably won't have the ability to place an order until next summer at the earliest.
I doubt that most people understand what is gong on around the world with Prices But I can remember all to well me saying I would never pay .50 for a Gal. of Gas ! Well here is a major wake up call.. The price of a Leather jacket is going up and going up big time! If You can afford it buy now, Do it no matter who the vendor is! China is buying everything in sight that is not nailed down!! They have the cash thanks in part to the USA.
I understand, but I just want to make sure the Shrunken Lamb will stick around. I'm also on a major weight loss, body building tangent right now. I swore to myself that I will never weigh this much again, and I'll be in the best shape of my life in two years. I don't want to make major purchases until I'm in a happy shape.
But I understand what you are saying Sgt., and I agree completely.

I don't know about that! It took Roz and I a long time to find just the right Striated Lamb.. Not a whole lot of that around.. I saw this sign that said If if you see it today it may not be here tomorrow! Guess that also goes along with Life.
I vote for getting in shape.. That means you may also be around in two years.
Sarge

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:51 pm

Mitch LaRue wrote:
Weston, that SOTWSL (StraightOuttaTheWasherStriatedLamb) shot is INSANE... LOVE it!

Looks fantastic, my friend... I can't wait to see it once it dries and "calms down" a little, though...

Thank you Mitch!

Weston

KingHamlet · Post by **KingHamlet** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:47 pm

Sgt. wrote:I don't know about that! It took Roz and I a long time to find just the right Striated Lamb.. Not a whole lot of that around.. I saw this sign that said If if you see it today it may not be here tomorrow! Guess that also goes along with Life.
I vote for getting in shape.. That means you may also be around in two years.
Sarge

A process which takes time. I'm not going anywhere. If I miss out on this, other jackets will come along, and buying a jacket that will be too big on three months time is silly. If I'm not meant to have a shrunken lamb jacket, c'est la vie.

Dragonlady Jones · Post by **Dragonlady Jones** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:31 pm

Great attitude - yup, it's just a jacket.

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:37 pm

Oh. My. God!

I hate to qoute Paris Hilton, but "That's Hot"!!!

I've already cleared it with the finance manager (aka Wifey) to get one when the taxes are returned! $\:D/$

Don't Call Me Junior! · Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:44 pm

That's definitely a great looking jacket!

The pic has a Halloween vibe that has me a little concerned though. Is that blood spatter on the table to the left of the jacket?

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:19 am

Yep, and of those who shed their blood to bring this jacket to the table.

Regards !Michaelson

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:27 am

Wow! First full shot of the jacket after the wash treatment...VERY cool, Weston!

Good work, guys!
Regards!
Indydawg

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:49 pm

Alright, its Nov. 1, when do these puppies ship?

Travis

IndyBrit · Post by **IndyBrit** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:37 pm

Hi Weston,

It's a great jacket. Some simple questions: What size is the jacket? and what size do you normally take. Me a 42R. I am 5.11. I would apprecaite your input

Canada Jones · Post by **Canada Jones** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:03 pm

How tough is this leather? I know it is thick which should make it tougher but my other lamb jacket had no where near the strength of my goatskin one.
bst
Canada

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:07 pm

I have a piece laying on the desk in front of me as we 'speak'.

It's surprisingly robust, in comparison to other lambskin samples I've handled to date.

Most lambskin I've handled and owned seems rubbery in texture, easy to pull in each direction. This reminds me of a nice, lightweight cowhide. Just more textured.

I'm impressed!

Regards! Michaelson