UDATE: Wings Striated Lamb—now with BISON SAMPLE

Rick Deckard · Post by **Rick Deckard** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:27 pm

So that picture is of the darker cowhide compared to the naked/antiqued cowhide used in the Hero jackets. Do I have that right? If so, you've darkened up the cowhide considerably for the Legend. I also take it the photos posted earlier of Weston in his antiqued cow Legend was the same cowhide used in the Hero, no? If I have this straight then, any idea when we'll see a Legend in this new, darker cowhide?

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:04 pm

Rick Deckard wrote:So that picture is of the darker cowhide compared to the naked/antiqued cowhide used in the Hero jackets. Do I have that right? If so, you've darkened up the cowhide considerably for the Legend. I also take it the photos posted earlier of Weston in his antiqued cow Legend was the same cowhide used in the Hero, no? If I have this straight then, any idea when we'll see a Legend in this new, darker cowhide?

Yes the New Legend Cow is a dark rich brown But looks a lot like the Hero Naked Cow.. This leather is a very high end leather and should start shipping in one to two weeks.. I am sure the Fans won't be disappointed in the Look.. The feel and lastly the price!! BTW this will be the same Leather as our New Raiders Legend for Kids!
Sarge

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:08 pm

Weston wrote:Oops!

Sorry about that guys, I got it wrong. I'll pull the picture. I'd guess better have someone check me before I leave that house to make sure I've got my pants on.

Weston

Could you put it back up so we can see what the cowhide will look like?

Travis

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:19 pm

Bison.....

Not only tasty, but makes for a great leather too!

Regards! Michaelson

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:12 pm

Hollowpond wrote:
Weston wrote:Oops!

Sorry about that guys, I got it wrong. I'll pull the picture. I'd guess better have someone check me before I leave that house to make sure I've got my pants on.

Weston
Could you put it back up so we can see what the cowhide will look like?

Travis

No problem! I'm moving it to the Wings comparison thread.

Weston

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:59 am

Hello everyone

I saw this
http://www.uswings.com/ijlegend.asp#LGNDSL

and really liked how dark the striated lambskin jacket was. Is the color in those pictures accurate?

Is this the perfect Indy jacket?

What is the difference between imported and USA made? I am almost inclined to trust the imported better.

Are there alternatives to this from other companies?

Everytime I've tried a Wings jacket it was very baggy and oversized. If I usually wear large stuff should I size down to medium? Or are these naturally slimmer fitting?

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:42 am

Wow, blueoakleyz, there's at least a half dozen threads to answer all of your questions on the first page of the Jacket section.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:56 am

Indiana Jeff wrote:Wow, blueoakleyz, there's at least a half dozen threads to answer all of your questions on the first page of the Jacket section.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Please don't make me do work I'm running low on time and can't get wrapped up into the all nighters of forum browsing.

djd · Post by **djd** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:48 am

Quick catch up. Us and imported should be the same except for inner facings on the import. Maybe better quality control from US? jacket supposed to be more fitted pattern than the other models. If you want striated lamb the only other options are TN for three times the cost or possibly Todd when he starts up his custom orders again. The only thing against the Wings offering is the zip on the wrong side. Hop that helps

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:36 am

djd wrote:Quick catch up. Us and imported should be the same except for inner facings on the import. Maybe better quality control from US? jacket supposed to be more fitted pattern than the other models. If you want striated lamb the only other options are TN for three times the cost or possibly Todd when he starts up his custom orders again. The only thing against the Wings offering is the zip on the wrong side. Hop that helps

Thanks I do appreciate it.

a zipper on the left side? that is a little annoying. I have one on my hoodie so I might get used to it

what did you mean inner facings? the liner?

djd · Post by **djd** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:40 am

Leather facing on inside next to zip. helps to protect lining but spoils drape of jacket in my view.

Kentucky Blues · Post by **Kentucky Blues** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:58 am

blueoakleyz wrote:
djd wrote:Quick catch up. Us and imported should be the same except for inner facings on the import. Maybe better quality control from US? jacket supposed to be more fitted pattern than the other models. If you want striated lamb the only other options are TN for three times the cost or possibly Todd when he starts up his custom orders again. The only thing against the Wings offering is the zip on the wrong side. Hop that helps

Thanks I do appreciate it.

a zipper on the left side? that is a little annoying. I have one on my hoodie so I might get used to it

what did you mean inner facings? the liner?

Blueoakleyz, zipper on these jackets is on the right side. The original zipper in the movies was on the left, so having them on the right technically makes them "wrong," which is what DJD meant.

-KB

djd · Post by **djd** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:56 am

No, I'm English, I meant 'wrong'.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:57 am

Touche'!!

Regards! Michaelson

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:23 pm

Kentucky Blues wrote:
blueoakleyz wrote:
djd wrote:Quick catch up. Us and imported should be the same except for inner facings on the import. Maybe better quality control from US? jacket supposed to be more fitted pattern than the other models. If you want striated lamb the only other options are TN for three times the cost or possibly Todd when he starts up his custom orders again. The only thing against the Wings offering is the zip on the wrong side. Hop that helps

Thanks I do appreciate it.

a zipper on the left side? that is a little annoying. I have one on my hoodie so I might get used to it

what did you mean inner facings? the liner?
Blueoakleyz, zipper on these jackets is on the right side. The original zipper in the movies was on the left, so having them on the right technically makes them "wrong," which is what DJD meant.

Ahh that's great news from a wearer's pov. Accuracy can wait

-KB

djd · Post by **djd** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:24 am

It's a great looking jacket at a great price - really looking forward to get mine

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:20 pm

Anyone know what the length and width of the pockets on these jackets run? I won't get into a debate as to whether the dimensions are "good" or "bad", I'll keep that to myself, but I was kind of interested in that info., I haven't managed to stumble across it in the discussions on the forum.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:44 pm

Sarge said he doesn't want to given them because other vendors would try to copy the Cooper pattern before his even hit the market. When they start to arrive then we'll all know and some one will post them. Until then, the few who have received them have been asked not to give specs for said reason.

-TS

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:44 pm

Tennessee Smith wrote:Sarge said he doesn't want to given them because other vendors would try to copy the Cooper pattern before his even hit the market. When they start to arrive then we'll all know and some one will post them. Until then, the few who have received them have been asked not to give specs for said reason.

-TS

That's right sorry, it slipped my mind, I should have remembered that! Guess I'll wait to see until I make a purchase.

Canada Jones · Post by **Canada Jones** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:29 pm

Would love to see a Bison (and/or the Horse Hide) jacket. Any word on when we might see a sample of a finished jacket? Have we ever seen an indy jacket in bison before and is the color in the end going to be a pretty good match?
thanks
Canada

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:08 pm

I would like to see pics of the new dark cowhide Legend, have they shipped yet or are they in "the works" still?

ron521 · Post by **ron521** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:38 am

The Bison option intrigues me....hoping it will be offered in a non-distressed finish, perhaps like the Orvis flight jacket.
I'm not too picky as to the particular shade of brown.
I like the rich brown of my VIP jacket, but darker brown would be perfectly acceptable.
I like the cut of the new jackets, the fit looks good in the photos, but I don't want pre-distressed leather.
A non-distressed cow or goat option (as in the current Signature Series) would also be great.
However, after some thought, I decided I will be keeping my VIP, even if I do get one of the new Legends.
The fit on me is just so good, it would not be a wise move to part with it.

Digger4Glory · Post by **Digger4Glory** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:40 am

I would imagine that bison, is the thickest hide out there.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:36 am

Sarge has said he's been trying to keep the thickness the same on the hero jackets. That said I'm sure the Bison and Horse are going to be the thicker of the 4(#?).

-TS

Digger4Glory · Post by **Digger4Glory** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:34 pm

Tennessee Smith wrote:Sarge has said he's been trying to keep the thickness the same on the hero jackets. That said I'm sure the Bison and Horse are going to be the thicker of the 4(#?).

-TS

Can't wait to hear more about it from members!

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:31 pm

Digger4Glory wrote:
Tennessee Smith wrote:Sarge has said he's been trying to keep the thickness the same on the hero jackets. That said I'm sure the Bison and Horse are going to be the thicker of the 4(#?).

-TS
Can't wait to hear more about it from members!

Yes I would like to keep all the Indy Jackets 1.1 MM The Bison is very soft and will blow you away!! I have never felt leather this soft before!
This is going to be a very exciting X-Mas for all fans world over.
Sarge

Digger4Glory · Post by **Digger4Glory** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:38 pm

Sgt. wrote:
Digger4Glory wrote:
Tennessee Smith wrote:Sarge has said he's been trying to keep the thickness the same on the hero jackets. That said I'm sure the Bison and Horse are going to be the thicker of the 4(#?).

-TS
Can't wait to hear more about it from members!
Yes I would like to keep all the Indy Jackets 1.1 MM The Bison is very soft and will blow you away!! I have never felt leather this soft before!
This is going to be a very exciting X-Mas for all fans world over.
Sarge

Wow Sarge, I would not expect Bison to be soft. I would think just the opposite. That is a pleasant surprise and now my wheels are turning brother!!

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:21 pm

Pics of the Bison Legend jacket are up on the site, so take a look.

http://www.uswings.com/ijlegend.asp

Weston

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:10 pm

Oh that looks VERY nice! It is out of my price range though. But it does look like it would withstand being drug by a truck.
Is anyone getting one of these? It has good texture, good color and I really am diggin' the Legend look, even if it doesn't have silver colored zipper and sliders.

I guess it's time to say TATANKA!

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:24 pm

That looks like a really good Last Crusade look too - just about perfect LC color. Verrry nice.

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:56 pm

whipcracker wrote:Oh that looks VERY nice! It is out of my price range though. But it does look like it would withstand being drug by a truck.
Is anyone getting one of these? It has good texture, good color and I really am diggin' the Legend look, even if it doesn't have silver colored zipper and sliders.

I guess it's time to say TATANKA!

A major plus with this Jacket.... $ 100.00 discount to Cow members! I have never seen or felt leather like this before.. The best of the best!
Sarge

djd · Post by **djd** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:52 am

It's a great offer. As nice as it looks nothing is going to put me off the SL version which is as close to my perfect jacket as I've seen within my price range!

Digger4Glory · Post by **Digger4Glory** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:02 am

Weston wrote:Pics of the Bison Legend jacket are up on the site, so take a look.

http://www.uswings.com/ijlegend.asp

Weston

I tell you what, that should be the hide for a possible Indy 5!

Really top shelf!

Indiana Dymond · Post by **Indiana Dymond** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:41 am

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I tell you what, that should be the hide for a possible Indy 5!

Really top shelf!

[/quote]

A good jacket wont guarantee us a good movie

.........but I'd pay to see that jacket on the big screen

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:48 am

No doubt about it... that Bison is also a very, VERY cool looking leather!

ron521 · Post by **ron521** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:16 am

It occurred to me that the bison could also be viewed as a sort of "Indy Begins" jacket, from one of his earlier adventure, perhaps in the late 20's or early 30's, before the jacket had acquired so much wear.

Great looking jacket! The pictures make me think of a shorter and slightly modified version of my VIP jacket, which I hold in very high regard.
I like the shorter yoke, which should allow the bi-swing to work more freely, and the trimmer cut in the upper sleeves.
I hope US Wings sells a TON of these (including one to me).

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:08 am

Sgt. wrote:
whipcracker wrote:Oh that looks VERY nice! It is out of my price range though. But it does look like it would withstand being drug by a truck.
Is anyone getting one of these? It has good texture, good color and I really am diggin' the Legend look, even if it doesn't have silver colored zipper and sliders.

I guess it's time to say TATANKA!
A major plus with this Jacket.... $ 100.00 discount to Cow members! I have never seen or felt leather like this before.. The best of the best!
Sarge

Sarge, are you suggesting I should get one of these? Man, would I justify THAT to my wife,:anxious:

,... sell more houses...sell more houses...

Seriously, how tough is that leather? I have seen some bison that scratches with your fingernail.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:45 am

From the reading I've done, bison is equal to or a hair above horsehide in tensile strength, due to the animal it's taken from.

Regards! Michaelson

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:09 pm

Michaelson wrote:From the reading I've done, bison is equal to or a hair above horsehide in tensile strength, due to the animal it's taken from.

Regards! Michaelson

I have never seen leather like this before! Roz and I both feel this is the best leather we have ever seen! M. I know how much you like Horsehide.... But this leather is 100 times better! Oh BTW from what I have been told there will be a Indy 5.... Don't know if I will supply the Movie But I do know we will sell a lot of Indy-Style Jackets.
Sarge

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:27 pm

No, you misunderstood me.

I'm saying it's STRONGER than or equal to horsehide, and therefore much BETTER in terms of strength vs weight for a jacket.

All in all, a better leather in my personal opinion.

Rergards! Michaelson

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:03 pm

Michaelson wrote:No, you misunderstood me.

I'm saying it's STRONGER than or equal to horsehide, and therefore much BETTER in terms of strength vs weight for a jacket.

All in all, a better leather in my personal opinion.

Rergards! Michaelson

I have been wearing my sample now for three days and everywhere I go I get the same question...Where did you get that jacket!!M. I wish Roz would have told me about Her contact long time ago !!At My age I don't get excited about much but this Bison sure helps the old heart.
Sarge

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:25 pm

Like I told you a while back, I've been aware of bison leather for several years after seeing and examining jackets made from the hide in speciality stores in Jackson Hole, WY.

I was HIGHLY impressed then, and never ever thought something like that would be available through one of our vendors.

I know G&B made a few out of water buffalo calfskin, but I never heard of any bison being attempted.

I'm glad to see you got hold of this leather. It's just amazing stuff, or at least the jackets I saw in Wyoming were.

Regards! Michaelson

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:54 pm

Sarge, what size Bison jacket are you wearing in the pictures on your website?

Post by **Holt** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:57 pm

Its a large

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:19 pm

TheExit148 wrote:Sarge, what size Bison jacket are you wearing in the pictures on your website?

I am wearing a Large.. I am 6ft and my weight is 195 Lbs to 197 Lbs I am out of shape.. I could wear a size XL but I really like to feel My Jacket on and That is the main reason I like the Legend... I'm not much for a jacket that makes me look out of shape even if I am !
Sarge

Post by **Holt** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:31 pm

well, to me, you look to be in good shape Sarge!

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:00 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:well, to me, you look to be in good shape Sarge!

You need to talk to my Wife!!
Sarge

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:33 pm

Ok, I'm seriously kicking the idea around on getting me a striated lamb, and as I read this thread I saw there was a 100.00 discount to COW members. Is that on all U.S. Wing jackets or on just one or two. Size looks to be a M size 40 would work as every jacket I've owned the sleevs could just be a tad longer so when the get all crinkly they'll still hang down by my top thumb nuckel.

Any one have a M in size 40 and could measure the sleeve length.

Man this jacket looks nice, how come there hasn't been more posted pic's, seems like this thread got hijacked on bison (which does look nice).

Croft

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:03 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:
Man this jacket looks nice, how come there hasn't been more posted pic's, seems like this thread got hijacked on bison (which does look nice).

Croft

The reason no one else has posted pictures of theirs is that they are still being made. I've been lucky enough to feature the jackets because Sarge has been sending me his own personal jackets that are made for him and sent to him for final approval to photograph and submit for his website. He didn't send me the Bison though, and I'm going to have to wait like everyone else. That should tell you how much he likes the Bison; he's not about to part with it! As to the discount, as always, best to just ask them directly.

Weston

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:31 pm

Weston wrote:
Indiana Croft wrote:
Man this jacket looks nice, how come there hasn't been more posted pic's, seems like this thread got hijacked on bison (which does look nice).

Croft
The reason no one else has posted pictures of theirs is that they are still being made. I've been lucky enough to feature the jackets because Sarge has been sending me his own personal jackets that are made for him and sent to him for final approval to photograph and submit for his website. He didn't send me the Bison though, and I'm going to have to wait like everyone else. That should tell you how much he likes the Bison; he's not about to part with it! As to the discount, as always, best to just ask them directly.

Weston

Amen.. I wear my Bison every where But to Bed.. Crazy but I just love the look and feel! Weston I would loan you my Bison But You would not give it back.. BTW I sent out all of the Old Cow Legend Jackets Fri. and will send out all the Kids Old Cow Legend this Wed. Now we are going to have some very happy Little Indy Fans When they open the USW Box when Moms and Dads are not around!!
Sarge