Here's a question for you all!

[G-Roberts]

OK guys,
I'm always aiming to improve my whips in performance and looks. Here is my question,

What do you guys see and think is SA for the trilogy whips. Forget all the stuff you have read and been told and just tell me what you think is SA and what you see. I know this is a hard question but when I look at the doom whip I don't see a tapered handle and when I look at the crusade I see the same whip as the doom but only aged more. In some scenes I see a slightly thicker looking whip but for the most, still the same as Doom and Raiders. The doom looks like an aged Raiders to me also. I'm sure some of you have screen grabs to show and compare and I thought this would be a good way to go about it.

I'm looking forward to reading your views and comments.

Graeme

[Noah]

On some of the TOD whips, I see a slightly tapered handle. On others, I don't see taper. In some LC whips, I see a very slightly tapered handle, and in some I don't. Many of the TOD and LC whips seem to be the same, especially when I look at the shape of the butt knot. Some whips in LC do look a bit thicker. In the Doom whips, I see color ranging from natural tan, to saddle tan, to dark brown. In LC they all appear dark brown. I guess the reason why we see differences in the whips in the same movie is because they used more than one whip.

This is all IMO.

[G-Roberts]

I agree that they used more than 1 whip in each movie though I want to know what is SA for you for each movie. I know everyones opinion will be different and thats what is so fun about this hobby.

[Noah]

When I think of a TOD whip, I think of a longer, tapered handle and thin thong. When I think of an LC whip, I think of it being a little thicker, and very little taper in the handle. I think of the Raiders whip being thin, with no taper in the handle except right before the turks knot. Also the butt knot is different from the TOD and LC whips.

[G-Roberts]

Thanks for your opinion Noah I think this is what most will think too.
Graeme

[kwad]

I pretty much agree with Noah.

LOTR: thinner thong, long straight handle. Bulbus buttknot. Ring knot placed above tip of of spike (partially over the transition are and will move when the thong bends).

TOC: same thong as Raider, with a long, gradually tappered handle. Buttknot has a somewhat rain drop shap. Same ring knot placement as Raiders.

LC: thicker thong (due to extra binding?) Handle has a small amount of taper right before the ring knot. Ringknot has been moved back onto the end of the spike, making the handle look shorter. Similar butknot to TOD.

[Noah]

I agree, the butt knot shape of the TOD and LC whips are tapered, tear drop shaped, while the Raiders butt knot is more bulblous. I also notice that the transition is flexible on the Raiders and TOD whips, probably the LC too.

[tomek9210]

Hi guys! Most details have been already told. I can add pics to proof it
Raiders
- flexible transition -
- large buttknot -

TOD
- tapered handle -
- shape of buttknot -

LC
- shape of buttknot -



Good luck Graeme!

[Eloquent 1]

In my humble opinion, the ToD whip is distinguished from ROTLA in that it appears to be older, and because of it's age and use, the portion of the handle closest to the heel/butt knot is darker from use (attributable to the oils from the user's hand) while the portion nearest the transition knot is lighter from less handling. The contrast from dark (heel knot) to lighter (or "less dark") (toward the transition knot) creates an optical illusion of a tapered handle.

Again, this is just my own perceptual abstraction as I am sure there are folks out there who are much better informed than I

Cheers!

[G-Roberts]

Thanks for the great shots Tomek, I notice on the first TOD picture I can clearly see a tapered handle but the second pic I cant. Thats why I asked what you see as SA because we all know many whips were used and any one of these patterns is SA. I've always liked the straighter handles to be honest with just a small amount of taper before the ring knot.

[tomek9210]

The second one TOD whip looks like dark Raiders whip or LC whip from tank chase. It's more like general Indy whip. For me SA TOD whip is whip with tapered handle, just like that one hanging on belt of hanging Ford

[Marhala]

I've always seen them as whips with a thinner, longer looking handle, with a bulky knob, and a very broken in transition, coarse looking (wide strands), whitehide fall, and the wristloop. That's the general impression they give me in the trilogy.

Aldo.