Todd's Jacket Owner's Thread

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:22 pm

Definitely a beautiful jacket!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

I'm looking for a used jacket in size L.

Will trade it (if interested) for one of our hats (a new hat):
www.steele-jones.com.ar/en/sombreros.htm

Let me know.
Thanks!

jlhampton · Post by **jlhampton** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:42 pm

i, too, have a few items from todd's and i'm very pleased. i was on the list for the wings jacket, but after all the drama, i've narrowed it down to the todd's standard. there are too many good things said out there to pass it up now. i probably will wait for the next run, though.
i've been so looking forward to seeing his pants prototype for quite some time, as i'm sure we all have.

so, how many jackets have to go until a new run starts again?

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:53 pm

Todd has excellent gear. I have a lot of items from Todd's, and all are great quality. I've had great customer service too.

And did you say, pants!?

Kubrik · Post by **Kubrik** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:53 pm

I've had 3 Todd jackets, 5 Wested's in different leathers, such as goat and horse, and had also 3 A2 jackets. I mostly wear the Todd's. It's the lightness and thinness of it that makes it so easy to put on.

Very comfortable for outdoors and indoors. Some jackets you can't stand wearing for a second indoors cause they are just too hot and heavy.

Post by **Holt** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:06 pm

soon this jacket will be yet another year older. I think it will be 3 years old..

Im so loving this jacket. it just gives me the raiders vibe as soon as I slip it on. Everytime I grab I get the feeling of grabbing one of the production originals.. weird, I know... but thats the feeling I get.. Its just so close to what I see on screen.

Todd, Never stop offering this jacket. I love'em so much, we all do! cant wait until I get a few more of these jackets...

Take a look at one of THE best raiders jackets around. Oh, btw, its the old style jacket. Im glad I am the owner of one of the old styles jackets.

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:09 pm

Holt, the jacket looks great! I'm really loving mine too. It really gives you a Raiders vibe. It's very close to what's seen on screen. I have one of his newer ones but it is still great.

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:02 pm

Man those pics look great! I too have one of the newer jackets. I bought it used here at the COW and I just love it. It has been really wet here in VA. over the past couple of days and the jacket got a good drenching. I was amazed by how well it held up and how it somehow "thickened" as it dried. I can't explain it but even my wife says that the leather no longer feels thin and fragile. To me it feels like a thin goatskin now. Just awesome!

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:43 pm

You're right about that soulman. They do thicken up and feel tougher after a good rain. I don't hesitate to put on my Todd's jacket and head for the work truck.

Holt, I've always thought that is your best Raiders jacket, even better than your custom Wested! Mines about the same vintage, and my only wish is that I had ordered one size larger. It's a good fitting jacket, just not a relaxed looking jacket like the one you're sporting.

Weston

Indy_1971 · Post by **Indy_1971** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:03 am

Holt, please refresh my memory. What is the difference between the old style jacket and Todd's current offering??? Thanks!

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:05 am

I'd love to get one of these. I hope Todd gets a new batch with all the correct details soon.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:43 am

Indy_1971 wrote:Holt, please refresh my memory. What is the difference between the old style jacket and Todd's current offering??? Thanks!

I believe its the fit.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:51 am

Satipo wrote:I'd love to get one of these. I hope Todd gets a new batch with all the correct details soon.

yeah, me too.. need one more of these. Im jsut so curious of the 'new' leather he is using on these standards.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:43 am

Here,

this is what I ment when I wrote above, 'feel like grabbing a productin original'

Todds jacket just REALLY reminds me of this jacket. The color, the cut, the details, the drape, the skin, all of it. Its just raiders all the way baby..

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:10 am

NO DOUBT... RotLA all the way!

Holt, you've (potentially) sold me on this jacket...
IF (as Satipo said) Todd gets a new batch with all the correct details, I'm definitely going to have to get one of these to add to my little collection...
It's definitely got it's own VERY Raiders thing going on.

(and GREAT photos, Holt!)

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:24 am

lol. yeah you should definitely get one of these. it is the most accurate jacket out there.

one thing though you have to be aware of ( dont know if the new batch of leather reacts like this did) but the leather can get a very creaky/squeky sound after it has become wet. just put some pecards boot oil and it goes away instant. I did this last year when I gt it and it is gone.

and yes to the above. when a leather jacket is soaked the leather bloats, it gets 'thicker' and feels more stronger. which is the case too.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:29 am

Indiana Holt wrote:
Indy_1971 wrote:Holt, please refresh my memory. What is the difference between the old style jacket and Todd's current offering??? Thanks!
I believe its the fit.

The main difference is that under the old style, the hand warmer pockets did not go into the lining of the jacket. With the new new issue jackets, the hand warmers do go into the lining. Also the fit/sizing has been revamped. Under the old style, I wore a size XXL-A, and it fit perfectly, though I'm a 44. With the new jackets and sizing scheme, I need an XL, closer to a truer fit. The texture of the leather on the newer jackets are a bit rougher, a bit more grain, and due to the factory, the sleeve seams and yoke seams line up. The old style yoke-sleeve seam config. was misaligned, as you know. These are the basic differences.

I think you are right with your analysis, Holt. These jackets are the closest to the Raiders hero jacket. It was a costume piece. One exception is that Todd's jackets are sturdy. (though G&B deserves a definitive nod)

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:33 am

Thanks my friend. you answered a few questions I had aswell. mainly the pockets going into the lining. that I something I am really missing on the one I have. So, we are both a size 44 and the new xl is a better fit then the xxl-a?

I really cant wait until the new jackets come with the right yoke/sleeve detail.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:37 am

No, the XXL-A was the best fit. The XL would be just a bit more relaxed. According to the size chart: XL (sleeves) 36 1/2" (Chest) up to 49" (waist) up to 46"

In terms of fit, you have the best fit for you, if you can live with the hand warmers?

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:42 am

yeah, I was just on his site...

I think a new size L will be just about like a 42 on me. which is TRIM, and a XXL will be too big. so I will have to go with a xl. what is the wasit on the old xxl-a? was it not up to a 48''? I believe so..

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:44 am

I wish I could remember the old numbers. I may have posted the size chart previously in this thread?

Mountaineer had posted them, as well:

Coyle's Indiana Jones Jackets
Sleeve : Chest : Waist
S: 33 1/2" : up to37" : up to 34"
M A: 33" : up to 40" : up to 38"
M B: 34 1/2" : up to41" : up to 38"
L: 35 1/2" : up to 45" : up to 42"
XL: 36 1/2" : up to 49" : up to 46"
XXL A: 36" : up to 48" : up to 44"
XXL B: 37 1/2" : up to 53" : up to 48"

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:08 am

Indiana Holt wrote:I really cant wait until the new jackets come with the right yoke/sleeve detail.

I also hope the new batch don't have that little protrusion of the collar stand beyond the collar on the non-storm flap side, which I've seen on some here. Never a major issue, of course, but one I'd prefer was ironed out. Does yours have that, Holt? I can't see it in the pics.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:42 pm

Texan Scott wrote:I wish I could remember the old numbers. I may have posted the size chart previously in this thread?

Mountaineer had posted them, as well:

Coyle's Indiana Jones Jackets
Sleeve : Chest : Waist
S: 33 1/2" : up to37" : up to 34"
M A: 33" : up to 40" : up to 38"
M B: 34 1/2" : up to41" : up to 38"
L: 35 1/2" : up to 45" : up to 42"
XL: 36 1/2" : up to 49" : up to 46"
XXL A: 36" : up to 48" : up to 44"
XXL B: 37 1/2" : up to 53" : up to 48"

thans. there they are. I was looking for'em....

but wow. up to a 44'' waist... man, I feel this xxl-a is big in the waist... imagine a up to a 46'' waist. wow. thats big aint it?

and satipo. yes mine has that too...

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:44 pm

Thanks for the confirmation, Holt. I have to say it doesn't look that obvious on yours.

Hmm, those waist sizes do seem a tad generous. 40"/41" chest and a 38" waist - not a lot of taper happening there. Is this a standard chest to waist ratio in jackets? I generally measure up as a 40" chest and 32" waist.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:19 am

The real jacket was not a tapered jacket like we have always thought. you know ''80's cut'' (No! wait... stop Eric. we know that the ''cooper'' jackets was more straight, I dont know how the wested HERO was, it very well may have been an tapered ''80's cut'')

the real ''cooper'' one had a thight chest with slight taper to waist. only an inch or so...

it was more tube like cut.

adding more space in the waist like Todd does on his standards will make the body more bell shaped.

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:28 am

I'm not sure how you are arriving at these measurements, the jackets are two inches smaller at the bottom than at the chest - flat. That's four inches difference in circumference. The waist and chest measurements on the chart are to show the range of body measurements that will comfortably fit inside the jacket.

The two inch taper is standard and I've used it since the beginning. Tony's jacket confirmed it to be correct. _'s measurements, USW, Flightsuits, and Wested all use the same taper.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:05 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:The real jacket was not a tapered jacket like we have always thought. you know ''80's cut'' (No! wait... stop Eric. we know that the ''cooper'' jackets was more straight, I dont know how the wested HERO was, it very well may have been an tapered ''80's cut'')

the real ''cooper'' one had a thight chest with slight taper to waist. only an inch or so...

it was more tube like cut.

adding more space in the waist like Todd does on his standards will make the body more bell shaped.

Eric, I think the "X" factor to the jacket, was that the Hero jacket was custom fitted to him. He was personally measured for the jacket, and that has seemed to make all the difference.

I would add too, that the old style jacket you have measures +/- 26" in the back length, and the newest version in XL measures 25". I found the old style to be a near perfect fit.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:16 pm

Texan Scott wrote:
Indiana Holt wrote:The real jacket was not a tapered jacket like we have always thought. you know ''80's cut'' (No! wait... stop Eric. we know that the ''cooper'' jackets was more straight, I dont know how the wested HERO was, it very well may have been an tapered ''80's cut'')

the real ''cooper'' one had a thight chest with slight taper to waist. only an inch or so...

it was more tube like cut.

adding more space in the waist like Todd does on his standards will make the body more bell shaped.

Eric, I think the "X" factor to the jacket, was that the Hero jacket was custom fitted to him. He was personally measured for the jacket, and that has seemed to make all the difference.

.

lol. i know, i know.

bounos · Post by **bounos** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:09 pm

hello everyone!
Is the Todd's jacket longer in length from the collar down the back in
the XXL compared to the XL?
George

MARQ · Post by **MARQ** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:26 am

I found this chart from Ebay,after a brief ecxamening few things jumped out.
Like the shoulder,XL=21" and XXL=22" would make more sense,that way the sleeve could be longer,a little,but nevertheless.Also "armpit to armpit" is like,narrow.What do you cuys think?

JACKETS Sleeve Chest Back Waist A-A Collar Shoulders
XXL 26.5" 51-53" 26" 46-48" 27" 20" 22.5"
XL 25.5" 47-49" 25" 44-46" 25" 19" 22"
L 25.5" 43-45" 24" 40-42" 23.5" 18.5" 20.5"
M-A 23.5" 38-40" 24.5" 36-38" 22" 17.5" 19.5"
M-B 24.5" 39-41" 23" 36-38" 22" 18.5" 20"
S 24.5" 35-37" 22" 32-34" 19" 17.5" 18"
Chest size is estimated with about 4" room to move. All other measurements are taken from the actual jacket.
If you order a jacket, and A or B is not specified, we will ship the B version.

generalFROSTY · Post by **generalFROSTY** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:06 pm

Despite my displeasure for cold weather, now that things are getting a little chilly, I'm really happy to wear my Todd's standard again!
Seems like just last month I was rocking this thing down in Orlando - it really is an increadibly comfortable jacket, love the way it moves and drapes - and I'm stoked about the weathering I did to it.

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:59 pm

I have a Todd's standard I bought about 3 years ago. I like the look and it has held up for its part. The pockets lining started to unravel, but no big deal. I always thought the lamb was a little on the thin side. I bought a Wested in washed goat and it is substantially heavier but doesn't have the drape and movement that my Todd's does. Anyhow, I would love to see a distress job of a Todd's standard from roughly 3 years ago. The lamb is so thin I was afraid to try it on the Todd's. My Wested is my everyday and I don't want to distress it. However the Todd's would be a good one to experiment on if I see the work someone has done and it turned out ok.

Beaverlid

BenBrim · Post by **BenBrim** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:20 pm

Hello all,

I just received my Todds. What do you guys think, does it fit well? Its a standard small. I'm barely 5'7 and its a little tight in the chest/loose in the waist. But I am satisfied

Here are the pics. hope it works this time

Forrest For the Trees · Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:34 pm

Hard to tell how it fits so far.

You will need to get registered with a photo hosting site, like photobucket or flickr, and then link the webpage that is hosting your photos.

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:24 pm

I use photobucket and find it to be pretty simple. Once you get photos posted in photobucket you can post them directly on your thread by clicking the Img button where you type your message body and link a photo directly to it by copying from photobucket and pasting between the 2 Img brackets and wah-la the pic shows up. Or if you go over the number allowed you can link a spread of photos they can view outside the thread. Anyway, it is easier than my description makes it sound.

Beaverlid

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:26 pm

Hear Hear to what Beaverlid is saying:
I'm a techo/gadget/internet-thingy ignoramous and even I was able to figure out how to use Photobucket through a little trail & error... pretty "user friendly" stuff.

Lookin' forward to seeing your photos once you've got things up & running.

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:44 pm

Mitch LaRue wrote:Hear Hear to what Beaverlid is saying:
I'm a techo/gadget/internet-thingy ignoramous and even I was able to figure out how to use Photobucket through a little trail & error... pretty "user friendly" stuff.

Lookin' forward to seeing your photos once you've got things up & running.

Mitch, I don't know about your internet tech skills, but you post some of the best gear photo spreads on COW my friend.

Beaverlid

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:53 am

You're kind to say so... but the way I see it, it's just 4 things that contribute to making that happen for me:

- We're living in an age of such wonderful (and varied) choices of quality IndyGear that the clothes can often make even a clown like me LOOK the part

- My understanding (and co-operative) wife is also my photographer... so, it's HER eye that's getting the shot

- On the occasion that I've posted something "Photoshoppy" (where I've been plopped down into a Raiders Scene setting) it's been entirely the work of my talented sister-in-law amusing herself

- And, of course, as I mentioned: these photo editing/hosting/posting websites ARE very friendly to those who are new to this sort of thing... I definitely used to be someone who matched that description!

(Regardless of all of this explanation, however, I'm still gonna TAKE your compliment and RUN with it!)

Anyway, back on topic:
BenBrim, I noticed that you seemed to post some Links of some kind to some of your photos, but it looks like it's not working... any question you want to throw out to us? See if one of us can give some guidance?

Maybe just let us know what web-site you've registered with and what you've done so far... perhaps one of us is familiar with it.
I realize this isn't strictly on the subject of Todd's Jackets... but hopefully it'll be resolved quickly and will RESULT in some photos of one of Todd's great jackets!

Let us know.
Cheers,
Mitch

BenBrim · Post by **BenBrim** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:40 pm

You guys will have to forgive me, I am no technophile. I get easily frustrated with computers. I'm just going to paste the links to the jacket photos.
http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... t=Ben1.jpg

Kentucky Blues · Post by **Kentucky Blues** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:59 pm

BenBrim wrote:You guys will have to forgive me, I am no technophile. I get easily frustrated with computers. I'm just going to paste the links to the jacket photos.
http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... t=Ben1.jpg

Actually, if you replace the tags with [img]and[/img] it'll post the pictures right here in the forum

Also, is that the only photo of this nice jacket, or do you have others?

-KB

RaidersBash · Post by **RaidersBash** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:26 pm

Mitch LaRue wrote:NO DOUBT... RotLA all the way!

Holt, you've (potentially) sold me on this jacket...
IF (as Satipo said) Todd gets a new batch with all the correct details, I'm definitely going to have to get one of these to add to my little collection...
It's definitely got it's own VERY Raiders thing going on.

(and GREAT photos, Holt!)

Todd's Standard is GREAT!!! I've raved about mine since I first got it. This edition of the jacket is much nicer having the hand warmer pockets go INSIDE the lining.

I like the texture and grain lines my jacket has, which is owed to the leather used, which I believe is a little different the the earlier edition jacket leather. Mine was BUTTER SOFT, and still is even after many rains. (THE TRICK IS TO PULL THE LEATHER AND STRETCH IT A LITTLE )

True, the yoke seam and sleeve seam line-up and someone mentioned something about the collar not extending all the way to the edge of the collar stand on the right hand side

Those are such small details for an otherwise PERFECT grocery list of SPECS, craftmanship and leather quality that those should not be the deciding factors for not getting this super jacket.

IMO, this is the BEST and most accurate Raiders jacket produced, and the bargain price is just ridiculously cheap for what a great jacket this is!

MITCH: Don't Wait! I think we're about the same size (40R?). If you don't like it, I'll buy it from you!

This is a pic from the full gear thread. Just wanted to show off that grain detail again. I wish my camera was better, but look at the striations on the left shoulder...just PERFECT IMO!

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:51 pm

You make a VERY compelling case, RB...
Getting one of the jackets has definitely found it's way onto my "To Do" List.

ron521 · Post by **ron521** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:41 am

I like the general look overall, and feel that they are a good value, but am not ready to buy a lambskin jacket.
If they offered the same jacket in goat or cow, definitely yes.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:53 am

Unless I'm very much mistaken (and please, someone correct me if I am), I believe Todd may currently investigating some other leather choices as an option for some upcoming jacket offers...
So, keep an ear to the ground, ron521... I know I'M going to.

Bdgsi11 · Post by **Bdgsi11** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:13 am

You're right Mitch, he is. I believe he is offering different various skins for his customs only, which are about to become reinstated once again.

Bdgsi11

Bdgsi11 · Post by **Bdgsi11** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:18 am

Leather choices for now are our custom lamb, washed lamb, deerskin-tanned cowhide, and bison (very grainy and very soft!)
We will have swatch photos up soon. Also, we'll have some samples at the QM Ft.MacArthur day for your inspection. Colors are also an option.

Todd

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:04 pm

I look forward to seeing those samples... I only wish it could be in person!

Kentucky Blues · Post by **Kentucky Blues** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:09 pm

I am now the proud owner of a Todd's Standard jacket. I don't have any pictures now, and have only tried it on, but I think i will enjoy this jacket very much. The sleeves are just a TAD BIT short, but from what I've heard, they'll stretch out just fine (already have a little bit, actually).

-KB

MARQ · Post by **MARQ** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:28 am

BenBrim, I must have missed it but..what size is that Todd of yours and is it the current run?

BenBrim · Post by **BenBrim** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:22 am

Yes it is from the current run I believe ( I purchased it near the end of August). And it is a standard small. I need to post some more pics of it up. It is rather nice

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:03 pm

Todd is offering free shipping on his Ebay orders I noticed.