USW Cowhide Raider #1. Take a look!

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:12 pm

Here it is guys, in antique, naked cowhide. I have more pictures, available if you want to see them.

Regards,

Weston

Forrest For the Trees · Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:17 pm

Looks really great, Weston. How's the fit compared to your previous Wings jackets?

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:31 pm

Great looking jacket Weston! Nice leather!

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:42 pm

Outstanding! Love the pocket flaps! Love the look!

VERY nice, Weston!

Congratulations!
Indydawg

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:58 pm

Forrest For the Trees wrote:Looks really great, Weston. How's the fit compared to your previous Wings jackets?

It's much more slim fitting than other Wings jackets. You can see from the pics how it tapers at the back, and the sleeves are much more snug fitting at the upper arm. Additionally, the action pleat is fully funtional; you can reach for the steering wheel and the sleeves stay at the wrists!

Weston

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:13 pm

That is a gorgeous jacket Weston!!!

The fit looks perfect!!! ... I can't wait to see it in calf.

-TS

Bemo · Post by **Bemo** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:18 pm

Looks really good Weston. Only two questions: how's the length compared to the Hero and I assume there's no underarm gussets (since USWings have never had this feature)?

One observation, collar looks awfully big for a true Raider's. But I'm sure more those more steeped in Raider's specs will chime in.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:28 pm

It does have a broad collar. I'll have to dig in the closet, but I believe the collar is the same size as my first Wested jacket. Here's a shot of the collar, compared to my Hero jacket, and my Todd's Standard.

Weston

sharkboy · Post by **sharkboy** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:41 pm

I am quite impressed with the fit of the jacket. The back has a very sleek look. You definitely show it off well WEston.

I think the Striated Lamb will look amazing on this.

SB

sharkboy · Post by **sharkboy** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:48 pm

Weston,

Is there a link for more pics?

SB

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:06 am

That looks fantastic!!! Just wonderful. Congrats. I can't wait for my horsehide to come.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:09 am

I've moved some of them into an album sharkboy. Here it is.

http://img705.imageshack.us/slideshow/w ... c1260l.jpg

Weston

sharkboy · Post by **sharkboy** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:21 am

Great images, and great details. I like the tapered back. I'll definitely have to give this one some thought for lambskin. Good to see there are finally some detailed images of this jacket.

SB

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:40 am

I really like that collar. The one thing that I don't like about my Gibson & Barnes is how narrow the collar seems ... especially in the back. It's never looked right to me.
The pockets looks really nice on this one too.

Congrats.

Just curious, what does the collar measure on your new jacket. I'd be interested to compare it to mine.

High Regards,
Chris

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:24 am

Thanks Canada. I'll measure the collar tomorrow.

Weston

djd · Post by **djd** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:29 am

Very nice! This one have inner leather facings?

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:06 am

Weston, looking good! Thanks for sharing.

I copied this directly from the Wings site.

will be offering it in a choice of antique cowhide or striated lambskin

Looks to me like calf and horsehide are off the table. At least for now?

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Mark Raats · Post by **Mark Raats** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:05 am

That seriously works for me Weston and in all honesty it got me all fired up about waiting for mine - all over again...

Congratulations and cheers for sharing!

Regards

MARK

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:09 am

agreed, great looking jacket!!! I liked the tone of the pre-distressed cowhide....

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:40 am

Great jacket.

I have had this jacket alittle while now and I can say it is a slimmer jacket. slimmer sleves and slimmer waist. The Large has the back stop at 25.5''

PsychicsAndSwords · Post by **PsychicsAndSwords** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:39 am

Indiana Jeff wrote:Weston, looking good! Thanks for sharing.

I copied this directly from the Wings site.

will be offering it in a choice of antique cowhide or striated lambskin
Looks to me like calf and horsehide are off the table. At least for now?

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Wait, what? I have an order in for horsehide - they're not doing them now?

Edit: I'm emailing to ask & clarify this.

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:09 am

I'm thinking the same thing. No horse? so what happens to my order? also I think the price on the website changed. Or am I wrong? I thought I remember seeing it as 395.00 with the 100.00 discount for COW members. Any thoughts?

Forrest For the Trees · Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:13 am

Okay, obviously Wings has changed some of the particulars surrounding this release. I don't know anything, except what I can infer from their updated listing on the web, so here goes:

-Neil Cooper's name is no longer associated with this project
-The name has changed to the Legend jacket
-It is only available in antique cowhide or striated lamb
-The price is now $295 for everyone, not just COW members
-It is available now???

Like I said, I know nothing except what is now on the Wings site. Correct me if I am wrong...

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:32 am

Nobody jump to conclusions. No one has said there still won't be 4 different hides.

Last I heard those 4 samples haven't been made yet, so only the 2 listed are available at this time.

Let's not start rumors....again.

Regards! Michaelson

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:38 am

Forrest For the Trees wrote:Okay, obviously Wings has changed some of the particulars surrounding this release. I don't know anything, except what I can infer from their updated listing on the web, so here goes:

-Neil Cooper's name is no longer associated with this project
-The name has changed to the Legend jacket
-It is only available in antique cowhide or striated lamb
-The price is now $295 for everyone, not just COW members
-It is available now???

Like I said, I know nothing except what is now on the Wings site. Correct me if I am wrong...

I'd recommend relaxing for a moment and wait for clarification. Here's what I gather from the correspondence I've read. They have taken the mention of Niel Cooper out as they don't want to jump the gun with Lucasfilm and the licensing. They were talking making this a separate offering and calling it "The Legend"; it does have interior facings and brass right hand zip for no other reason than that's Sarges preference plain and simple. To my mind, I would think of it as a "deluxe" or "VIP" Raider jacket rather than the film replica jacket. The only difference between the Legend, and what you guys ordered are the zip, and the interior.

The Cooper jackets for COW orders are not to feature interior facings, will have nickel or brass zips per specification, and are made in the States by Schott. I have read nothing to indicate that any orders submitted are going to change. I'm sure more information will be coming. The new ad for the Legend just went up late last night

Weston

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:39 am

Agreed.

I think we just wait and see what comes out as it comes out.

Again, Weston...LOVE the jacket! VERY, VERY nice!!!

Wear it in good health and on many adventures!

High Regards!
Indydawg

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:42 am

Weston wrote: The Cooper jackets for COW orders are not to feature interior facings, will have nickel or brass zips per specification, and are made in the States by Schott. I have read nothing to indicate that any orders submitted are going to change. I'm sure more information will be coming. The new ad for the Legend just went up late last night

Weston

That's what I thought also Weston

Thanks for the reiteration

-TS

Forrest For the Trees · Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:47 am

Okay, I'll stop jumping to conclusions. I'm just confused. I didn't realize there was any difference between this iteration of the offering and what we "pre-ordered" a few months ago. I just wasn't clear on whether or not those of us who pre-ordered should go ahead and just order off the website if we want one (since no money has changed hands yet).

The jacket itself looks fantastic.

Weston, can you share what size that is and some measurements? Thanks!

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:53 am

Jacket looks fantastic Weston. I was initally concerned reading this thread but feel much better about things after the last few post. I am less hesitant about the purchase now but still think I may switch to the striated lamb. Maybe I should just call Sarge and get the information from the man himself.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:02 pm

can you share what size that is and some measurements?

its a size large with slimmer waist. it has 25.5'' backlength. the waist should fit a person with 35''/36'' waist.

the sleeves are 25.5'' long.

Im not speaking for Travis but it should be identical to the one I have.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:07 pm

Truly a wonderful looking jacket, Weston...
And it looks great on you!

tmurph · Post by **tmurph** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:39 pm

Could you please post the measurements of the pockets for me. thank you.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:44 pm

Yes, I'll get some measurements up for you guys a bit later. I've got my hands full of 1yr old at the moment. I am currently outnumbered by a party of one. The boy's a natural climber, and has a gift for demolition.

Weston

ProfessorHenryWJonesJr · Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:47 pm

COW member "Weston" thank you for the pictures and the information. Much appreciated.

And you take care of what you need to take care of sir. I am sure everyone here understands the situation. As for your quote "I am currently outnumbered by a party of one".......

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:56 pm

Man, oh man, what a jacket! that is way nice. Yep, all excited over calf all over again, though that adult bovine looks might fine! Nice everything! I have a crying three month old, gotta run!

KrYpToNiAn1 · Post by **KrYpToNiAn1** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:57 pm

Congrats dude! Sick jacket! I can't wait to see the Striated Lamb version, with the COW alterations.

What size is that jacket? I figure I'm a LARGE.

s.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:12 pm

The jacket is in fact a size L. Mr. Furious is occupied at the moment so, here are some measurements:

Collar 3 3/4 from stand to tip at the front, 2 7/8 at the back.

back length 25 1/2 from collar stand to hem.

Yep, your right Holt.

Weston

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:14 pm

KrYpToNiAn1 · Post by **KrYpToNiAn1** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:18 pm

"The jacket is in fact a size L" Really? Hmm...

Do you have a Nowak? I have a Crystal Skull jacket in Harrison Ford (CS) size... what Big Tony called Large. I want the USW to fit almost the same, just a bit more room in the chest (maybe an inch or 2 in the sleeves) to accommodate a sweater.

Thoughts?

s.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:20 pm

a size Raiders size Large I would recommend for people with 44/45 chest and 35/36 waist.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:27 pm

I don't have a Nowak for comparison, but as to sizing, I'd go straight to the source. Give them your measurements and you will be fine.

Weston

singsingjohnny · Post by **singsingjohnny** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:33 pm

I think the back looks a bit too tapered but what do I know.

That and the collar looks too big for Raiders.

KrYpToNiAn1 · Post by **KrYpToNiAn1** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:34 pm

Really? I normally am a 42" in the chest and a 32" waist. The sizing chart on the USW site says a 42" chest is a Large, and that a Medium would fit a 38" or 40" chest...

If you wanna help me out, try comparing to the USW Raiders to the Nowak Crystal Skull 'Ford' in size.

s.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:43 pm

like weston says. call them and send in an order. they will ask you for your chest size and waist.

Kentucky Blues · Post by **Kentucky Blues** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:44 pm

KrYpToNiAn1 wrote:Really? I normally am a 42" in the chest and a 32" waist. The sizing chart on the USW site says a 42" chest is a Large, and that a Medium would fit a 38" or 40" chest...

If you wanna help me out, try comparing to the USW Raiders to the Nowak Crystal Skull 'Ford' in size.

s.

Can you show me where it says that a 42" chest is a Large? I'm not doubting you, but I don't recall seeing that on the Wings site anywhere...

-KB

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:49 pm

from the sizeing chart.

155-165 - 42 - L
165-175 - 44 - L

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:52 pm

so do we get $100 off of these Legend jackets?

anyone heard anything about that?

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:27 pm

So, this isn't the "official" Cooper jacket?
This Wings thing is totally confusing to me.

Anyhoo,

That is a GREAT looking jacket!
Darn it! Now I want a Wings again!

If the $100 COW discount applies, I'm gonna snatch one of those up.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:30 pm

there are two but identical in pattern.

there is one version made for the world with facings and right hand zipp for ore real life street wear and the other one is for the COW fans. This will be with screen accurate left hand zipp and without facings. it will be a movie replica jacket.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:38 pm

[quote="singsingjohnny"]I think the back looks a bit too tapered but what do I know. That,and thecollar looks too big for Raiders.

It's good to keep in mind that this is a reproduction of the pattern made by Cooper 30 years ago. To my mind, that does not take into consideration the fact that there were multiple jackets used, and were one-off, hand made jackets that, according to legend, were sometimes made overnight to meet shooting schedules. For that, use a custom jacket maker. This is made to spec from the pattern, and therefore may present small differences in comparison to the film jackets, as the film jackets present small differences to each other. I hope that makes sense to you guys.

Kwad, this is the Cooper pattern. The difference is the leather facings inside, and brass zip. Sarge doesn't consider changes to the interior a deviation from the pattern, but is making the ones for COW without facings, as stated earlier.

I think it strongly resembles the jacket in the "Imam's house." scene, and I see it in the opening scenes of the movie and "Flying Wing" scenes as well.

As to discounts, I think those days are gone, but I'd say it's a great deal even at full price.

Weston

EDIT: Holt explained it as I was typing.