It's made of ...

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:08 pm

So, where does all this leave us with when asking what the jacket was made of?...

Peter said lambskin (not shrunken - too small)

Tony said it looked most like shrunken lamb to him

Neil said calf, er cape skin (lamb), er cowhide

We've seen striations, smoother areas, shrunken areas, all on the same jacket. I kinda like my goat, but that's just me. I'm not really concerned about the zipper. It's clearly on the left under the wind flap on screen and that's where it should be. So when it all boils down, I'm more concerned with what's on screen than how it was made. I don't know if the two jive or not, but with a costume department fiddling with things, I guess it doesn't matter.

Maybe the common theme is lamb, and maybe that's the most likely candidate that addresses the wrinkling, the striations, the drape, and the consensus of jacket makers (sort of). Based on the various leathers I've held or owned, I'm inclined to believe it was a vegetable tanned lambskin with some striations - medium/light thickness, somewhat shrunken. I'm not sure it can be replicated these days (I don't know much about tanneries - maybe I don't want to).

Is that where all this has left you, or do you have some other impressions?

CM · Post by CM » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:47 pm

I could never tell what the jacket was made of. I always thought it was either a thick lamb or a soft cow (calfskin). I tend to think that goat is the best leather for an Indy jacket becasue it combines the softness and weight of lamb with an incredible strength.

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:54 pm

I like goatskin, too...especially G&B's goatskin...

Regards!
Indydawg

Post by **Holt** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:59 pm

a good drapy soft Goatskin and a good sturdy thread. oh yeah!

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:04 pm

I figure that by now the only way we'll know what it's made of is if we have David Carouso from Miami CSI and his forensics team, do a DNA test on the jacket in Skywalker Ranch. But he'll have to tell us face to face, well kind of... he just won't look at us when he tells us... and he'll take off his sunglasses mid-way to emphasize that it’s from a rare breed of mountain goat that went extinct in the late 80's. That way we're all _____.

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:12 pm

dude....do you know how BAD I want a pair of Horatio Cain sunglasses? Silhouettes, I believe, they are....SO cool!

Uhh....sorry, Holt...so much for the "sturdy thread...."

Back to business

Indydawg

Illinois James · Post by **Illinois James** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm

Whoever knows what this hide really is.......is on the LAMB!!!!

Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Won' Get Fooled Again!!!!

Silhouette 8568. I bug them sometimes as to why they don't make them anymore. I'm lucky to have some. They're good shades, except when on a motorcycle.

Illinois James · Post by **Illinois James** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm

Pulled unicorn.

Post by **Holt** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm

dawg, my bad, I ment sturdy sewing thread. I allways keep on forgetting the sewing part. lol.

I too want those glasses but I found out they didnt come wth the CSI music everytime you took them off like you see on screen!?!?!?!

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:21 pm

_ wrote:The foreskins of blue whales...

Wouldn't that require a Jewish jacket maker?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:22 pm

The scrotum of a T-rex...

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:26 pm

Okay, folks, time to reel it in.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:30 pm

Is it too late to add rich corinthian leather?

Sorry Bink.

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:46 pm

And why does Horatio always tip his head down to say something with impact... maybe he's insecure like Laurel Bacall was when she started and got in the habit...

Yeah, I like the Nowak Goat Riley made for me. Great dark color, sturdy, great fit. I agree Dawg and Holt. For real world, goat's got it. As for the original, I can almost hear Henry Senior ... "Indiana, let it go".

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:56 pm

_ wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:Is it too late to add rich corinthian leather?

Sorry Bink.
It is NEVER too late for rich Corinthian leather, my friend. Remember - stay thirsty and drink XX beer.

Excellent ad campaign.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:42 am

_ wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:Is it too late to add rich corinthian leather?

Sorry Bink.
It is NEVER too late for rich Corinthian leather, my friend. Remember - stay thirsty and drink XX beer.

He can speak German, in Spanish...

KingHamlet · Post by **KingHamlet** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:23 am

I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:28 am

KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

Not a bad idea...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:30 am

I know one WAS in the works for possible release at the end of the year, but last I heard, that particular hide was put on the backburner....again. Hard to get hold of enough hide to make it worth putting into production, was what I was told.

As far as I know only Wings ever produced one in 'roo, and its surface had dye problems. They didn't carry it but a year, and that was back around 2002 or '03, as I recall. They still turn up on ebay on occasion.

_ had one when they came out.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:30 am

KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

I understand that Roo hide is very resistant to stretching and bounces back to it's original shape easily...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:33 am

I'll hold him...you guys can start beating him when I get a good grip.

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:44 am

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:58 am

I`m not following this too heavily but is it possible, _, that Neil has an accent and "lamb" can come across as sounding like "calf"..especially since you stated that it could also have been "cape". I don`t know the details but, over the phone, those words can possibly end up sounding the same under certain accents? Hmmmm

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:31 am

Tennessee Smith wrote:
KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

I understand that Roo hide is very resistant to stretching and bounces back to it's original shape easily...

Also, it comes with a pouch for easy storage.

$\:D/$

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:40 am

Dr._J wrote:
Tennessee Smith wrote:
KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

I understand that Roo hide is very resistant to stretching and bounces back to it's original shape easily...
Also, it comes with a pouch for easy storage.

$\:D/$

Hahahaha... that's a very nice idea

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:44 am

And a unique zipper pull.

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:13 am

binkmeisterRick wrote:And a unique zipper pull.

Nice marble bag.

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:33 am

Dr._J wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:And a unique zipper pull.

Nice marble bag.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:20 pm

CM wrote:I could never tell what the jacket was made of. I always thought it was either a thick lamb or a soft cow (calfskin). I tend to think that goat is the best leather for an Indy jacket becasue it combines the softness and weight of lamb with an incredible strength.

Lot of good quips in this post

I share the same views as CM. For those that want to know what it was made of originally, well, if Paterson says we probably will never know, then we probably will never know.

Even if you knew technically what it was made from, that doesn’t mean that the leather exists anymore, tanned in the same manner anyway. You might just be better off trying to duplicate it the best that you can in a hide that suits you.

If Tony Novak says that the shrunken lamb was the closest to what he examined, then I am inclined to believe him. And yet that hide wasn’t for everyone, either because they didn’t feel that it emulated what they saw on the screen or they just plain didn’t like it. But Tony had so many different leathers, I don’t think that it mattered to him what he made the jacket of. He didn’t have any reason to not tell the truth. In fact the opposite is true. He said that the shrunken lamb wasn’t exactly easy to work with.

I'd go for the calfskin myself (and I might). I don't really need this other kidney.

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:39 pm

You might just be better off trying to duplicate it the best that you can in a hide that suits you.

I can unequivocally agree with that, Rundquist!

Indydawg

tekors · Post by **tekors** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:43 pm

Indydawg wrote:
You might just be better off trying to duplicate it the best that you can in a hide that suits you.

I can unequivocally agree with that, Rundquist!

Indydawg

Me too...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:44 pm

Of course, we've already been doing that for almost 3 decades!

Regards! Michaelson

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:54 pm

It's made of ...

.....People! Indy's jacket is made of PEOPLE!!!!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.....

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:01 pm

What in the HECK is happening in the jacket section? There used to be blood and guts and spit and tattered behinds all over this place, and now its open mike night at the improv...It should be noted, that I prefer this though.

travis

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:16 pm

Please refer to the photo above your post. The bodies are still being picked up after the last fight.

Thank you.

Regards! Michaelson

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:20 pm

Be sure and try the veal...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:22 pm

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:59 pm

Ahhh...I see my work is done here

Indydawg

Dragonlady Jones · Post by **Dragonlady Jones** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:15 am

Chuck Norris has an Indy Jacket he made himself. It's made of Antique Striated Lambcalfhorsegoat hide. And I know what you're thinking...the answer is yes, it's SA.

fenris · Post by **fenris** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:41 am

...and I thought it was pleather...

Ravenswood · Post by **Ravenswood** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:05 am

WOW Kwad

What a memory!!
At the age of 6 I stood transfixed in front of the family TV when that scene was playing....never thought I'd see it again, having not had a fix on the title. Leave it to the insightful folks here on this forum to bring it all back!

Now back to our regularly scheduled program, already in progress

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:27 pm

Ravenswood,

I'm glad that I could help you remember a traumatic image from your childhood.

Ravenswood · Post by **Ravenswood** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:55 am

In all seriousness, I believe Peter's claim that the jacket was made out of veg-tanned sheepskin, AND Neil's claim that it was made out of oiled calfskin. I think both hides could look remarkably similar on screen, and would be quite interchangeable, especially considering the various lighting and action that either jacket would be subject to on the set.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:47 pm

kwad wrote:
It's made of ...
.....People! Indy's jacket is made of PEOPLE!!!!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.....

WOW!! Pepsi burns coming out the nose!

Thanks for the laugh.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:16 pm

Ravenswood wrote:
In all seriousness, I believe Peter's claim that the jacket was made out of veg-tanned sheepskin, AND Neil's claim that it was made out of oiled calfskin. I think both hides could look remarkably similar on screen, and would be quite interchangeable, especially considering the various lighting and action that either jacket would be subject to on the set.

Can't argue with that.

Regards! Michaelson

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:34 pm

Indiana Jeff wrote:
WOW!! Pepsi burns coming out the nose! Thanks for the laugh. :TOH

Mission accomplished!