U.S. Wings Antique Cowhide 'Hero Jacket'

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:35 pm

Sgt. wrote:Now if you can understand my Threads.. Good luck!
Regards,
Sarge

You're doing great, David!

HIGH regards !Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:43 pm

And Sarge, in no way did I tell Michaelson that you called him a crazy old bat in our phone conversation today.

Oops.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:45 pm

Hey bink, I got somethun fer ya.....

Regard! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:46 pm

Watch out for the paint job!

Don't worry, Mark. Sarge had only good things to say about you. Mostly.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:47 pm

He did? I must have given you the wrong phone number...

Regards! Michaelson

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:45 pm

Oh, absolutely great, Sarge! I've been proud to see you out here today!!!

Highest Regards!
Indydawg

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:50 pm

Warmest Welcomes, Sarge. Great to see you here!

sharkboy · Post by **sharkboy** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:56 pm

well, I made my contribution, but I'd like to see some more pics of these awesome jackets. I can't get enough Antique Cowhide.

tgalahad · Post by **tgalahad** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:58 pm

Tgalahad I love the Picture of the Hero Indy and what makes me happy is the Fans are very pleased..

Hi Sarge, I am very pleased that you like the picture of the Hero jacket. It is such a great looking jacket and YES you have made many fans happy! $\:D/$ Thanks for the belt and the hat as well.
All the best,

Tgalahad (tim)

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:16 pm

Hello Tim,
Thank you and the Fans for the very kind words!! You know I don't have a clue where my Threads have gone but I did post them.. I guess tomorrow I will have to have Amber read me the hand book again..
Now think about this.. all my life I thought I could walk through walls and now I find it difacult to even see the walls.
Guess all these years M. and IndyDawg have been my eyes at Indy Gear.. Guess the secrect is out.
Regards,
Sarge

Indydawg · Post by **Indydawg** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:18 pm

Hey...who needs to SEE the walls if you're just going to walk through them anyway?

Regards!
Indydawg

Spatterdash · Post by **Spatterdash** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:40 am

I need to comment here, since the jacket arrived this evening.

This is not only my first Indy Jacket, it is my first serious leather garment. Never even had a bomber jacket in the 80's. Officially it's my first purchase from USWings as well, though techinically I requested one of their safari/bush jackets in poplin cotton a few years ago and got it for Christmas.

The price of this amazing jacket is extraordinary, the leather is incredible and far above any Wilsons leather I ever laid eyes on (my only real exposure to leather, aside from this forum) and the customer service?
Look, when you buy a piece of clothing, an heirloom like this, at the price I bought it, there is literally no logical reason to go above and beyond that. The jacket was like a gift in and of itself, yet sitting there in the box was a ballcap with USWings logo embroidered on it and a quality web belt in khaki.

Things just to say "thank you for your patronage", items easily over 20 bucks in value, just tossed in as a show of appreciation. I felt like I was being congratulated and welcomed.

Sarge, thank you. To your staff and your suppliers, thank you. Michaelson, IndyDawg, your words and efforts helped me find this jacket and allowed me to do business with this fellow veteran and this great businessman.
Thanks to the time and dedication of everyone mentioned, I'll likely have to buy my wife a fleece-lined bomber in the next few years, and we will gladly be turning to the Sarge and his team for that purchase.
In a time of economic hardship and uncertainty, this sort of generous and open-handed dealing is a real treasure.

I am ###### proud to be a USWings customer.

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:56 am

Is there anyway to get out of the signature required thing? Like leaving a note on the door with my signature?

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:39 am

Sarge, great seeing you posting around here. Thank you for giving the fans such a wonderfull jacket.

again, great seeing you around here!

bests,
Holt

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:41 am

blueoakleyz wrote:Is there anyway to get out of the signature required thing? Like leaving a note on the door with my signature?

what are you talking about?

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:49 am

Indiana Holt wrote:
blueoakleyz wrote:Is there anyway to get out of the signature required thing? Like leaving a note on the door with my signature?
what are you talking about?

UPS requires a signature. I won't be home.
I'm going to try and leave a note saying leave it anyway.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:53 am

and what are they suppose to do with that signature note on the door?

they probably have documents with them you need to sign. are they suppose to copy your signature and pretend it is yours? that wont happen b/c its forgery and is illegal.

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:49 am

Indiana Holt wrote:and what are they suppose to do with that signature note on the door?

they probably have documents with them you need to sign. are they suppose to copy your signature and pretend it is yours? that wont happen b/c its forgery and is illegal.

A signature is required, means any person living in the home, who is over the age of 18, may
sign for the package. This is proof that it was not only delivered, but delivered to the correct address.

To leave a note on the door for the delivery person, stating they may leave the package there, with no one
signing for it, means that the person who delivered it is not responsible if the package is lost or stolen.
They just leave it there for you, and mark down that it was delivered. Just like any other item you
get delivered to your home that does NOT require a signature.

Its not forgery, nor is it illegal. People do it all the time that can't be home to sign for a package.
The delivery person is not going to copy your signature and forge it. Its a simple note stating to
just leave the package on the doorstep.

For peope who don't have stay at home spouses, or children over 18 that don't work or go to school,
or people who don't work from home, what are they supposed to do? You can't sit around all day and
wait to sign for a package. You'd loose your job! I can see it now. Yeah, uh, boss, I have to stay
home today because my Indy jacket might come, and I might have to sign for it...

Without your note stating the delivery person may leave the package, UPS will leave a note on your door
stating they tried to make delivery, but could not, and they will make a second attempt at a more specific
time in a day or two. This is clearly stated on their note to you.

If the second attempt goes undelivered, you then have the option of going to the UPS building where
the packages are distributed from and picking it up in person. But that could be FAR away from your home,
and by the time you get home from work, see their note, and drive to the UPS facility, its going to be closed.

All of this information is available online. Just google it to see how it works.

Flathead

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:00 am

well, then there shouldnt be a problem.

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:11 am

Indiana Holt wrote:well, then there shouldnt be a problem.

Normally, its not a problem. And even the UPS note they leave for you has an area
on it where you can sign it, and stick it to your door. It advises them they can leave the
package on your doorstep when they make their second attempt at delivery.

Now, if you live in a bad area, or an apartment complex, I would think people would be
smart enough NOT to want to leave an expensive leather jacket sitting around for
anyone to just come along and take it.

Use your brain and it usually works out for the best...

Flathead

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:14 am

Use your brain and it usually works out for the best...

yeah, that usually works out for the best with everything.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:13 am

Or, you can do what I do and have it delivered to your work address. How they get my deliveries to the moon is still beyond me.

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:17 am

blueoakleyz wrote:Is there anyway to get out of the signature required thing? Like leaving a note on the door with my signature?

Yes there is! Just wave Sig. under remarks on the order form!
Regards,
Sarge

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:50 am

Here's a quick shot I took this morning. This really is a beautiful jacket!

I also added a thread with pics of me wearing it here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47383

because I'd really like to know how just more experienced than me think it looks on me in terms of size.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:56 am

Seeing pics of people's jackets makes me glad I'm on the list! I can't wait to get mine!

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:40 am

it breaks my heart that I wont be able to get this jacket.

I love'em all...

enjoy them folks!

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:20 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:and what are they suppose to do with that signature note on the door?

they probably have documents with them you need to sign. are they suppose to copy your signature and pretend it is yours? that wont happen b/c its forgery and is illegal.

A little hostile aren't you?
It's weird that you would assume something THEN post a response to your own assumption.

My delivery is coming today.
Thanks Flathead that answered my question.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:22 pm

uhm..no?

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:31 pm

blue, I didn't think Holt was being hostile, he was just being matter of fact. Perhaps he doesn't deal with UPS over there.

What Holt probably doesn't know is it is actually a pretty common practice to leave a note for the UPS delievery guy telling him to leave a package at the door. In fact, that is official UPS policy that if you leave a note for the driver on delivery day, he WILL leave the package.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:43 pm

you know appart from it really looking like an LC jacket with the snaps and skin. I think it really reminds of the jacket stuntman Terry Leonard wears too. the collar is spot on so does the skin seem to be. I think without the snaps and a size smaller then what you normally wear you'd be pretty set wih a Terry jacket. anyways, at first clance, this is an LC jacket no doubt.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:57 pm

maboot38 wrote:In fact, that is official UPS policy that if you leave a note for the driver on delivery day, he WILL leave the package.

Not to derail, but not necessarily. It may depend on the value of the item or how it's processed. I know I tried it with a Sideshow PF or two…with a driver who will usually leave any item, sig needed or not (as we're pretty rural), and they couldn't based on its value or something claimed by the sender. But I did leave it with a note to deliver it to my neighbor who would sign. That they would do.

Back on topic…Kudos on the jackets folks. They do look niiiiice.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:59 pm

...and then you have the occasional drivers who sign for the boxes themselves, then toss the box into the bushes next to the front door of the addressee.....

Regards! Michaelson

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:05 pm

maboot38 wrote:blue, I didn't think Holt was being hostile, he was just being matter of fact. Perhaps he doesn't deal with UPS over there.

What Holt probably doesn't know is it is actually a pretty common practice to leave a note for the UPS delievery guy telling him to leave a package at the door. In fact, that is official UPS policy that if you leave a note for the driver on delivery day, he WILL leave the package.

This is very true.

If your UPS person is a good one, you can also ask to have the package placed at the BACK door, if you have one, so that
it is out of the prying eyes of your neighbors.

He will even put plastic around stuff if its raining so it does not get wet. He's a great UPS person, and I am lucky
to have him as the delivery person in my area.

Flathead

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:10 pm

Yep, the good ones are out there too!

Regards !Micahelson

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:29 pm

FYI.. UPS and USW, I wish we did not have to have all our shipments sign for.. Major pain and cost to USW.. The bad news is that most folks know what is in the box.. that is the bad guys do!!.. A leather jacket is the same as cash and that is a fact. When ordering just let us know you want to wave the Sig.

We will work with you!!
Regards,
Sarge

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:39 pm

I'll take the signature, thank you. No point in risking my jacket over it.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:43 pm

I like mine coming to work myself. They're signed for, and I get them faster as they're handed to me at my desk rather than me having to wait to get home to see them later than night.

Regard! Michaelson

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:48 pm

Michaelson wrote:I like mine coming to work myself. They're signed for, and I get them faster as they're handed to me at my desk rather than me having to wait to get home to see them later than night.

Regard! Michaelson

Not to mention, when it arrives at the door you don't have to hear "ANOTHER ONE???!!!!!!" from the misses.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:49 pm

I have NO idea what you're talking about.....

Regards! Michaelson

Sgt. · Post by **Sgt.** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:56 pm

Well Indy Holt....You have a good eye!! That is the look we wanted.. A true Indy-Style jacket that has been through the ringer, Not a new look nor a washed out aged look.. Those I already make! I wanted one that had the look that HF just took off.
I was wondering who and when that would be picked up...For that your wish just came true.
Regards,
Sarge
PS That is why I called it the Hero!!

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:31 pm

LOL. yeah..

I kinda have been stamped with ''detail geek'' on my forhead. lol.

anyways,, and you got the look!! LOVE IT

I answered you pm Sarge. just go to were it says ''messages'' under the club obi wan banner.

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:46 pm

My new jacket will be here tomorrow! $\:D/$

Forrest For the Trees · Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:07 pm

Just picked up my jacket from the post office. It is awesome.

The fit is on the looser side, as I expected, but not too big. Thank you Sarge and Dawg for your good advice! I guess I am in between sizes, so better to err on larger side.

This is a great jacket. I will be selling several jackets in the near future, as it would seem that I have no reason to wear them now! What a steal for 200 bucks! I am amazed.

Vaderbreath · Post by **Vaderbreath** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:10 pm

Just got mine and I love it. I'll snap some pics at home. As soon as I put it on, it just felt...different. I've had a G&B, Wested, Todd's, and another USW, but this felt different than any of those. It is so amazingly comfortable right out of the box that it feels like a jacket I've had for ten years. Great jacket, great price. Thanks again, Sarge!

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:29 pm

Vaderbreath: As soon as I put it on, it just felt...different. I've had a G&B, Wested, Todd's, and another USW, but this felt different than any of those.

Michaelson wrote:6/17: The collar was made to the original Cooper pattern and the body seems a bit more tailored than their standard fare, or at least it is when comparing it to my 5 year old VIP. The fit is definitely different on this one for me than any other Wings jacket I've owned to date. It just fits better. Not sure what, but there's something different.....

Regards! Michaelson

I said the same thing last week, Vaderbreath! Thanks for posting the same thought!

Oh, and Holt, please take note of the 'hint'.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:33 pm

Forrest For the Trees · Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:43 pm

Just wanted to add my review of the jacket to the discussion.

Price: Unbeatable for the quality

Construction: Seems to be very well made, although there is one bad wandering stitch where the collar meets the collar stand, but is not visible

Leather Quality: Excellent. Might be my favorite leather that I have ever handled. It is really soft, but feels very substantial, and has terrific variation of texture, which I really like.

Color: Perfect. A really rich shade of brown. I have been looking for the right color brown Indy jacket for a long time (Dark brown Wested- too dark, Authentic brown Wested- too bland and grayish, Roo-hide Wings- too russet). The Antique cowhide is a great color. I love it.

Pattern: Definitely for a loose fit, which could be nice for layering. The storm flap and pockets seem a bit off center, which is pretty much an optical illusion (this has been discussed before). The collar stand is a bit too wide for my taste. The arm holes are wider than I would like. The inside pocket is also a little too low. I'm being very nit-picky here. I really do like the snaps on the storm flap. Also the length doesn't bother me at all, and seems quite natural.

I would say this is a close approximation of the Crystal Skulls jacket, and worth every penny. I can't wait to wear it all the time this fall and winter.

Cheers

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:51 pm

I haven't had a chance to take pictures, but I have my Naked Cowhide Hero jacket. I had to do some collar shaping, but otherwise, it's a beauty! The fit is right-on, just like my first US Wings jacket was. I am very happy.

Perhaps we should start a new show-off thread, given the size of this one and all it's twisting and turning? Objections?

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:54 pm

Sarge,

another pm awaits you

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:02 pm

Chewbacca Jones wrote: Perhaps we should start a new show-off thread, given the size of this one and all it's twisting and turning? Objections?

None here.

Regards! Michaelson