Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

bargle · Post by **bargle** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:43 pm

I'm new here as many of you know so I apologize for my limited knowledge on this subject. In my quest for an inexpensive jacket option I came across these guys. They sell online via their store (and on eBay). I'm wondering if anyone can offer an opinion on it. I've seen pics of the back and they appear to be cut correctly with no extra seams or panels. Thanks.
http://www.southbeachleather.com/indian ... acket.html

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:45 pm

If you are looking for a bargain, far better to go with a Todd's std.

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:47 pm

I've actually never heard of these guys. For that price I would think it would be best to get on the special Indy priced advanced order Wings, or an OTR Wested perhaps? Anyone else?

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:47 pm

Texan Scott wrote:If you are looking for a bargain, far better to go with a Todd's std.

I was going to mention that as well

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:57 pm

And considering their write up is grammatically atrocious, and their leather looks like plastic, I'd agree with the Todd's assessment if you're after a good Indy jacket at an inexpensive price point.

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:20 pm

Bargle,
You DO remember that US Wings Indy I sold at my garage sale a couple years ago for $100!

bargle · Post by **bargle** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:38 pm

nicktheguy wrote:Bargle,
You DO remember that US Wings Indy I sold at my garage sale a couple years ago for $100!

I think I do. Wasn't I standing there when the guy tried it on?
I'd like to believe that it didn't fit me so I didn't want to buy it from you... but truthfully, I think I just didn't know what it was at time.

Let me know when you're selling the next one, if there is a next time.

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:30 pm

Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

raider 57 · Post by **raider 57** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:54 pm

OOHH BOY!!! Didn't you guys see????

They will soon be offering a whip, "for customers who wants to order"!

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:56 pm

raider 57 wrote:OOHH BOY!!! Didn't you guys see????

They will soon be offering a whip, "for customers who wants to order"!

REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! $\:D/$

No, wait....I'd be dead then....

Regards! Michaelson

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Mon May 10, 2010 4:49 pm

Ooch. That's about ll I can intelligently say about this. Ooch.

ajocampo · Post by **ajocampo** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:05 pm

JC1972 wrote:Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

worse than the quality, I would say, is that it doesn't fit!
So yeah...thanks for the info!

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:13 pm

Yeah, but you get a FREE whip!!!

BaptisteTheFool · Post by **BaptisteTheFool** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:20 pm

JC1972 wrote:Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

Do you have any pictures though? I've always wanted to see something other than their promotional image (which certainly looks atrocious enough). Kinda a train wreck scenario, I think...

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:42 pm

Michaelson wrote: REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! $\:D/$

No, wait....I'd be dead then....

Regards! Michaelson

I'm not dead yet!

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Mon May 10, 2010 6:17 pm

No sorry, I don't. I think I probably burned (deleted) whatever evidence I ever had that I "owned" one. This was over 2 years ago as I was first getting into the hobby. Even if English is not their first language but still; they were just...bad.

BaptisteTheFool wrote:
JC1972 wrote:Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

Do you have any pictures though? I've always wanted to see something other than their promotional image (which certainly looks atrocious enough). Kinda a train wreck scenario, I think...

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Mon May 10, 2010 6:18 pm

bargle wrote:I'm new here as many of you know so I apologize for my limited knowledge on this subject. In my quest for an inexpensive jacket option I came across these guys. They sell online via their store (and on eBay). I'm wondering if anyone can offer an opinion on it. I've seen pics of the back and they appear to be cut correctly with no extra seams or panels. Thanks.
http://www.southbeachleather.com/indian ... acket.html

Welcome to COW bargle.

Bargle you cannot beat this jacket offering: http://www.toddscostumes.com/cgi/commer ... egory=X352 if you are looking for a "brand new" jacket for $149.99 + shipping. IMHO the most accurate "brand new" Indy jacket you will ever find for the price.

http://www.uswings.com also has an upcoming jacket offering that you should give serious consideration too. A third option would be an off the rack jacket from Wested leather. The Wested jacket would be the most expensive option if you live in the USA but not so if you live Great Britain.

If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you check out the Cairo Bazzar forum and you may find some excellent "used"jackets for less than $150.00.

I just noticed that you live in Canada so I am not sure how currency conversions and shipping fees may affect you.

I hope this information helps you in your search

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Mon May 10, 2010 6:20 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:
Michaelson wrote: REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! $\:D/$

No, wait....I'd be dead then....

Regards! Michaelson
I'm not dead yet!

you are Michaelson's beating heart or your beating heart is still?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Mon May 10, 2010 6:21 pm

Bargle, if you do an Internet search i think you'll find more than a few reports of dissatisfaction with southbeach leather

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Mon May 10, 2010 6:26 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:
Michaelson wrote: REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! $\:D/$

No, wait....I'd be dead then....

Regards! Michaelson
I'm not dead yet!

Sounds like some lyrics to "Spamalot"

ajocampo · Post by **ajocampo** » Mon May 10, 2010 6:41 pm

scot2525 wrote:
bargle wrote:I'm new here as many of you know so I apologize for my limited knowledge on this subject. In my quest for an inexpensive jacket option I came across these guys. They sell online via their store (and on eBay). I'm wondering if anyone can offer an opinion on it. I've seen pics of the back and they appear to be cut correctly with no extra seams or panels. Thanks.
http://www.southbeachleather.com/indian ... acket.html
Welcome to COW bargle.

Bargle you cannot beat this jacket offering: http://www.toddscostumes.com/cgi/commer ... egory=X352 if you are looking for a "brand new" jacket for $149.99 + shipping. IMHO the most accurate "brand new" Indy jacket you will ever find for the price.

http://www.uswings.com also has an upcoming jacket offering that you should give serious consideration too. A third option would be an off the rack jacket from Wested leather. The Wested jacket would be the most expensive option if you live in the USA but not so if you live Great Britain.

If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you check out the Cairo Bazzar forum and you may find some excellent "used"jackets for less than $150.00.

I just noticed that you live in Canada so I am not sure how currency conversions and shipping fees may affect you.

I hope this information helps you in your search

Thanks for the info, too

I'm gonna look into todd's costume leather jacket!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue May 11, 2010 9:17 am

Ever now and then, you can find them on Ebay second hand at a bargain.

John Vaughan · Post by **John Vaughan** » Tue May 11, 2010 7:28 pm

Hey guys It's me, Mr." I just need help with this jacket thing." Yaaa. anyway Bro. stay away from those guys!!! They say it has handwarmers but it don't,They say it has inside pockets and you guessed it, it don't. They say it's JUST like Indy's and, well, are you seeing a pattern here! It fits good but the leather is very thin even for lamb.To tell you the truth, I'm not sure it's even leather. The back panel only goes down to about two inches above the straps, and if you try to return it you have to send it to Pakistan where it was made. It was the first jacket I ever ordered and as a result, well, the result is I'm now a member here.

I guess it wasn't a total loss

these guys are good people. Anyway, I figured I'd throw my $145 in. I did get them down to $100 if I just kept it!

Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

raider 57 · Post by **raider 57** » Tue May 11, 2010 8:07 pm

OK bargle,
In all seriousness, I'll suggest to you this jacket option as well:

http://www.gibson-barnes.com/Expedition ... rod_id/64/

Very well made,highly durable and pretty darn accurate.
They are sized by chest measurement, 38,40,42 etc. Plus they offer 'tall' sizes.
You can go Lamb or Goat.
The Goatskin is for truckdragging! The titanium of leathers!

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Tue May 11, 2010 11:59 pm

It's interesting that there are such negative reactions to their Indy jackets, when the Rocketeer and Mad Max jackets get okay reviews from the fans. Well, the MM jacket itself gets good reviews. The shoulder armor on the other hand.

Russ

bargle · Post by **bargle** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:04 am

John Vaughan wrote:
Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

I appreciate you sharing that and saving me the grief.

bargle · Post by **bargle** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:09 am

raider 57 wrote: The Goatskin is for truckdragging! The titanium of leathers!

Thanks for the advice Raider 57.
I was actually thinking today "I want a jacket that would withstand a good Indy style truck dragging" but alas my budget doesn't agree. However I will definitely keep it in mind for a down the road purchase - no pun intended.

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:37 am

John Vaughan wrote:and if you try to return it you have to send it to Pakistan where it was made. It was the first jacket I ever ordered and as a result, well, the result is I'm now a member here. I guess it wasn't a total loss these guys are good people. Anyway, I figured I'd throw my $145 in. I did get them down to $100 if I just kept it!

Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

I returned mine to Long Island (I forget where, eastern end I think-not that it matters), NY which is where I got it from.

John Vaughan · Post by **John Vaughan** » Wed May 12, 2010 6:37 pm

JC1972 wrote:
John Vaughan wrote:and if you try to return it you have to send it to Pakistan where it was made. It was the first jacket I ever ordered and as a result, well, the result is I'm now a member here. I guess it wasn't a total loss these guys are good people. Anyway, I figured I'd throw my $145 in. I did get them down to $100 if I just kept it!

Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John
I returned mine to Long Island (I forget where, eastern end I think-not that it matters), NY which is where I got it from.

Hey, that's what they told me in an email, I still have it if you want to read it.

John Vaughan · Post by **John Vaughan** » Wed May 12, 2010 6:43 pm

bargle wrote:
John Vaughan wrote:
Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

I appreciate you sharing that and saving me the grief.

Ain't nothing but a thing Bro. I just figured I'd pass along that which was given. You're in good company here.

BwanaJohn · Post by **BwanaJohn** » Wed May 12, 2010 7:45 pm

Rook wrote:It's interesting that there are such negative reactions to their Indy jackets, when the Rocketeer and Mad Max jackets get okay reviews from the fans. Well, the MM jacket itself gets good reviews. The shoulder armor on the other hand.

Russ

First I heard of Southbeach, was when looking for the MM Jacket, thought with that name it was based in Florida or California. Then with all the Horror Stories, heard there was a place in Canada that made a Top Quality Copy. Of course as a collector and Movie Fan, I'm waiting for The Indy Jacket from "US Wings", and am working on this gear first. Besides, it was easier to find an MKVII Bag than an Interceptor...

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Thu May 13, 2010 4:14 pm

Oh yeah, the place in Canada (Abbeyshot Clothiers) does make good jackets... for lots of money.

I saw one at Dragon con in 2006 and wanted it... but didn't have $500+ to spend on it sadly.

Nor the extra $20K for an Interceptor.

Russ

bargle · Post by **bargle** » Sun May 16, 2010 12:32 pm

According to Southbeach Leather's eBay auction this is a picture of the back of their jacket. This picture is only on eBay and apparently not on their website.
I suspect it is not really what they are selling. http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/1/2/7/ ... 2029_o.jpg

John Vaughan · Post by **John Vaughan** » Sun May 16, 2010 1:09 pm

Ya that's it. if ya notice the pic stops just below the straps. If it went down to the bottom of the jacket you would notice that the back panel stops right at the top of the straps and doesn't go all the way to the bottom, also like I said the handwarmer pockets( on mine at least) are not there. there is no inside pockets, and for being new, It sure doesn't smell like leather at all. Maybe I just got a fluke. All I know is I will not order from them again.

Peace

John

Soup · Post by **Soup** » Wed May 19, 2010 2:19 pm

Hey Bargle, as you can tell, alot of good info from many knowledgeable individuals. I only own a Todd's, and I have had for a couple of seasons now and has been good for me for the price.

How is your sanity holding up with so many choices?

I lost mine along time ago, I'm starting to feel right at home here.

Regards,

Soup

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:05 pm

Bargle have you found a jacket in your budget yet with the advice provided?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:08 pm

Drug-by-a-truck! Nothing beats a good afternoon out that a good truck drag!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:11 pm

Michaelson wrote:
raider 57 wrote:OOHH BOY!!! Didn't you guys see????

They will soon be offering a whip, "for customers who wants to order"!

REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! $\:D/$

No, wait....I'd be dead then....

Regards! Michaelson

...in the absence of a rope, the whip can be used to hang yourself once you receive the jacket and inspect its contents.

John Vaughan · Post by **John Vaughan** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:51 pm

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Thu May 20, 2010 9:53 pm

Since the original poster of this thread has moved on to another jacket vendor should not this thread get locked down?