How did Indy roll his sleeves up?

Zoltar · Post by **Zoltar** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:41 am

In Cairo did HF wear shrirts with shorter sleeves tailored to look rolled up? Even when scraping they don't seem to unroll either.
I cant work out how to roll my AB sleeves to look anything like Indys or stay up for too long!

ZOLTAR

Soup · Post by **Soup** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:48 pm

I roll the cuff, then double roll. seems to work for me.

Regards,

Soup

Luke Warmwater · Post by **Luke Warmwater** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:16 pm

For rolled cuffs that stay rolled, roll them with the shirt off.

Wade Egan · Post by **Wade Egan** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:18 pm

One arm at a time.

ThatManFromRio · Post by **ThatManFromRio** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:58 pm

Wade Egan wrote:One arm at a time.

Zoltar wrote:In Cairo did HF wear shrirts with shorter sleeves tailored to look rolled up? Even when scraping they don't seem to unroll either.

I'm quite sure he kept them rolled the same way he managed to survive the submarine trip , that is using a fair amount of ...

who said pecard?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:04 pm

Step away from the computer!!

You'll start talking about the military sleeve rolling like certain fan groups.... (you know who you are!)...

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:01 pm

They were never really rolled. It was all CGI.

Wade Egan · Post by **Wade Egan** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:21 pm

Or stunt cuffs.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:16 pm

Cuff links?

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:17 pm

"I roll my sleeves up just like the rest of you - one arm at a time. Except, when my sleeves are rolled, I steal gold idols."

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:42 pm

Safety pins.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:44 am

binkmeisterRick wrote:"I roll my sleeves up just like the rest of you - one arm at a time. Except, when my sleeves are rolled, I steal gold idols."

I got a fever! And the only prescription is more C.O.W bell

Kyle

Zoltar · Post by **Zoltar** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:06 am

Sorry guys, just don't think it's possible to make rolled sleeves look SA with standard cuffs.

Didn't think it was that daft a question.

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:25 am

For my take on it:

I wear tailored shirts pretty frequently, and also tend to roll up my sleeves frequently. Having them unroll on me has never been a problem. On off-the-rack shirts though, where the fit is baggy or the sleeves are too long, then I suppose I could see where that could be a problem.

I think you'll have to keep in mind the length of the sleeve, the width of the sleeve, and the size of the arm/forearm inside the sleeve, and how they relate to each other. Ford's was tailored, so the fit was perfect.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:46 am

Sorry, Zoltar, but you have to admit it really is a little funny. I mean, some of us go bonkers over jacket and hat details, right down to the individual stitch. This is just the first time the question of rolling up sleeves has come into play.

Castor Dioscuri wrote: I think you'll have to keep in mind the length of the sleeve, the width of the sleeve, and the size of the arm/forearm inside the sleeve, and how they relate to each other. Ford's was tailored, so the fit was perfect.

I think this is the ultimate key. Just like the jacket and hat, the clothing was tailored specifically for and reacting to Ford's body. Put the actual film used costume on any of us, and it won't look the same, guaranteed. Besides, if a cuff would've come undone during filming, they'd re-roll it and do another take. That simple. I honestly don't think there's much science to it, other than what Castor has said above.

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:14 am

I wouldnt rule out some sort of foreign helper such as pins of some sort, especially in action scenes. I remember seeing a picture here of the whip being tied up so that it didnt unroll while in the holder. I think it was a still from the scene in LC when he's yelling, 'No camels!' at Sallah.

Zoltar · Post by **Zoltar** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:33 am

Sorry, Zoltar, but you have to admit it really is a little funny

Im just kidding with the

This whole place is funny that's why I can't get enough of it!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:34 am

It's all good, then. And most insane asylums are "funny." This one is no exception.

Photoss · Post by **Photoss** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:19 pm

Maybe I have fat arms, but I've never had any problems keeping my sleeves rolled up, even when hiking or rock-climbing...

Post by **Jens** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:26 pm

I can second that (well, except the "fat arms" part

). I'm wearing shirts all the time (hardly ever been seen in a T-Shirt) and whether hiking, climbing or digging I, too did not have a problem with "unrolling" sleeves. Maybe it's indeed a question of technique?

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:27 pm

Are your arms shaped like this?

If that's the case, how do you get the shirt over your arms in the first place?

Photoss · Post by **Photoss** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:34 pm

I do it carefully. If I go too fast, my shirt becomes yet another battle-damaged ToD...

(actually my arms are rather small........

)

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:25 pm

I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are happy with.

Joeyeah_right · Post by **Joeyeah_right** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:31 pm

Canyon wrote:I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are happy with.

Yep. Canyon's way is the way I do it: Fold the cuff over on itself, and then fold that over on itself, and repeat until it's the length you want. It's just a part of my meticulous/slightly OCD self, and that make it work instead of just casually rolling up the sleeve.
Doing it this way means it's virtually impossible for the sleeve to unroll itself, no matter what you do.

Indyzane · Post by **Indyzane** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:43 pm

Staples?

Indiana Bugs · Post by **Indiana Bugs** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:08 pm

Joeyeah_right wrote:
Canyon wrote:I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are h
Canyon wrote:I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are happy with.

Yep. Canyon's way is the way I do it: appy with.

Yep. Canyon's way is the way I do it: Fold the cuff over on itself, and then fold that over on itself, and repeat until it's the length you want. It's just a part of my meticulous/slightly OCD self, and that make it work instead of just casually rolling up the sleeve.
Doing it this way means it's virtually impossible for the sleeve to unroll itself, no matter what you do.

I roll them this way also, but they dont stay up no matter what I do. They have to be rerolled occasionally.

John Vaughan · Post by **John Vaughan** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:39 pm

Indyzane wrote:Staples?

Darn it! That was my answer!

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:14 pm

If I need sleeves to stay up I roll them tighter and further. Nothing will keep them rolled up while throwing a football or baseball around, though.

LJ

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:03 pm

He probably kept them rolled up because it's a movie. If the sleeve comes unrolled, they cut, roll the sleeve back up, and shoot again.

Kyle

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:33 pm

With his hands.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:07 pm

There it is!

Dave

ThatManFromRio · Post by **ThatManFromRio** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:13 am

BendingOak wrote:With his hands.

Don't be afraid of going into details : with his right hand for the left sleeve , with his left hand for the right sleeve .

TMFR

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:21 am

ThatManFromRio wrote:
BendingOak wrote:With his hands.
Don't be afraid of going into details : with his right hand for the left sleeve , with his left hand for the right sleeve .

TMFR

Thanks for helping out with the details but I didn't want to overwhelm anyone.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:24 am

slleeeveddd

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:21 pm

Darn,

All the good smart-aleck remarks are already taken........

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:19 pm

There are no "good" smart aleck remarks, just like there is no such thing as a short-sleeved dress shirt.

LJ

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:51 pm

Not unless you cut the sleeve.

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:56 pm

For the SOC look, the sleeves are kept 2/3 up the forearm, and do not go past the elbow - I tend to roll the full cuff, then half that, then roll 'smaller' to keep the roll secure. But 'accurate' is actually about the width of the cuff.

Zoltar · Post by **Zoltar** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:53 am

Some good answers coming in, I actually started this thread to find out if anyone had seen any evidence of the cairo shirts having altered sleeves to give a better look when rolled. Some of the details you guys know is truly mindbogling.

This cap shows how flat the rolls are, every picture I've seen of people wearing there gear the rolls are bunchy

ZOLTAR

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:15 am

well theoretically, since it was a movie shirt for those particular scenes, it's possible that the shirt was altered/designed that way - the 12" Hasbro Indy figs that came out a few yrs back had the sleeves partially 'rolled' but when 'unrolled' were only 3/4 length, so maybe the costume dept. did that, too, so it wouldn't look bunched or bulky?

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:13 am

It could also have to do with the length of the sleeve placket. If you have a longer sleeve placket, it takes more rolls to keep the sleeve from unrolling. If you have a shorter placket, once you roll the sleeve past it, it should stay in place easier.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:05 pm

WOOOOO

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:06 am

I don't know because I've seen other pictures of Harrison in the real world with his sleeves rolled up just like he does in the films

Kyle

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:54 pm

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:29 pm

The shirt in the film was made-to-measure and the sleeves seems to be quite fitting. This is how the rolling up works. If the sleeves of your shirt don't have a similar fit to the ones Ford wore you won't achieve a similar effect. Also if the material is not the same you won't achieve the same effect.

Not getting the rolled-up sleeves right on standard-sized shirts is pretty common and shouldn't be a concern really. However, I talk like this because I was lucky and my NH shirt does exactly the same effect, getting stuck on top of the forearms (just under the elbow) and most often one of the two comes down a bit but still keeping its roll. The screengrabs that was posted before best represent what happens with my NH shirt.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:51 pm

Here is Harrison with his sleeves rolled up in the real world. They look the same as in Raiders IMO

Kyle

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:10 pm

The still is from an interview Harry gave specifically on the art of rolling up sleeves. Here, he shows the final results.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:50 pm

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:10 pm

norpled

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:24 pm

Zoltar wrote: Some good answers coming in, I actually started this thread to find out if anyone had seen any evidence of the cairo shirts having altered sleeves to give a better look when rolled. Some of the details you guys know is truly mindbogling.

This cap shows how flat the rolls are, every picture I've seen of people wearing there gear the rolls are bunchy

ZOLTAR

You can use the photo you posted as well as other scenes. Roll the full cuff as it appears in the film, just below the elbow, but not above. It's easier to roll them when you are not wearing the shirt.

Interestingly, IJ did not roll the cuffs in the first scenes of CS. I kept thinking, something is different here....the skin color, shades or gray and the sleeves almost created a different IJ, certainly with all due respect, just different look.