Fed III's still available

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:33 pm

Hi folks: I know this will sound a bit Old School but I recently
emailed Ron and Jenny at Hatsdirect and was very happy to
hear that there are still some Fed III's available.

For as much as I try, I'm still a sucker for the pre-CS looking
Fed. The slightly wider dimensional brim just looks so good.
I'm looking to pick up a black dress lid and they even have
my diminutive 56 cm.

So..just for those who might just be a bit behind the times,

there's a few of those bullet proof beauty's still available.

Without sounding Old and nostalgic, weren't Fed III's great!
Warm Regards
Kilgour Trout

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:35 pm

I always liked them. Maybe I'll have to see if they got any left in my size.

hulkamad · Post by **hulkamad** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:15 pm

Ooh, intriguing! What are the specific differences between the fed4 and 3? How much wider is the brim of the fed3? Using the search feature leads me to threads that suggest different block shapes, the fed4 being more a "classic" shape block. (I assume it means more vintage-looking) I don't quite know what that means specifically though. Am I correct in saying the fed3 has a lower crown that a fed4? I've got a fed4 moonstone that I love. The possibility of owning a fed3 in tantalizing.

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:55 am

Well, the block shape was different. I don't know about "more traditional" as the 4's block was an old one they found in storage. Anyhow, the block on the 4 was chosen because it was closer to the Indy 4 hat block. The crowns and brims vary by size, but the Fed 3 tended to have a taller crown and wider brim by about 1/4 inch all around. To be honest, I miss the old block shape.

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:55 am

You said it Chewy:

there seemed to be a bit more
brim and crown to play with.

It could be made to look like most pre-CS Indy's
with just a little work but it was also one heck
of a nice "40's" dress fedora. Elegant but
"no nonsense" at the same time.

Honestly, my Fed III tawny fawn is the perfect office hat
and regularly gets positive responses from people.
It's funny that a lot of women in my neck of the woods love the
look of the 40's lid. When I'm out and about with my staff, they
can't get over how many women react positively.

I think it's great and miss the Old Fed III.

Kilgour Trout

riothamus · Post by **riothamus** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:02 pm

hulkamad wrote:Ooh, intriguing! What are the specific differences between the fed4 and 3? How much wider is the brim of the fed3? Using the search feature leads me to threads that suggest different block shapes, the fed4 being more a "classic" shape block. (I assume it means more vintage-looking) I don't quite know what that means specifically though. Am I correct in saying the fed3 has a lower crown that a fed4? I've got a fed4 moonstone that I love. The possibility of owning a fed3 in tantalizing.

I've hat one of each and always preferred the Fed3. By the way, love the screen name and avatar. Hulk is my favorite Marvel character!

Excelsior!
Riothamus

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:48 pm

Kilgour! Nice to see that you dusted off the ol' lid to come and play! Been a while!

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:16 pm

You to Gater

Good to see some of the Old Dogs
are still here having fun too! $\:D/$

I'm with you Rio..Ah well, we'll have to waite
till Steve does another reblock on Indy 5 to
maybe bring the Old Fed 3 back eh.

Cheers
Kilgour

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:30 pm

This is very interesting news!

The crowns and brims vary by size, but the Fed 3 tended to have a taller crown and wider brim by about 1/4 inch all around.

Because of this! I know I've said this ad nauseum, but my main (really only) knock against the Fed IV is that I can't get a deep enough center bash. If I had a little larger crown to work with, that would be great!

riothamus · Post by **riothamus** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:00 pm

crismans wrote:This is very interesting news!

The crowns and brims vary by size, but the Fed 3 tended to have a taller crown and wider brim by about 1/4 inch all around.
Because of this! I know I've said this ad nauseum, but my main (really only) knock against the Fed IV is that I can't get a deep enough center bash. If I had a little larger crown to work with, that would be great!

That is my experience exactly! I just can't get it deep enough without it sitting too high on my head. Even the Fed3 is a little bad in that department. I had this concern when ordering my AB's from Steve. He (rightly) insisted that I would be fine with his hats. And I am! Still, the Fed3 is a nice budget lid that I don't mind putting through the ringer.

Excelsior!
Riothamus

hulkamad · Post by **hulkamad** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:14 am

riothamus wrote:
hulkamad wrote:Ooh, intriguing! What are the specific differences between the fed4 and 3? How much wider is the brim of the fed3? Using the search feature leads me to threads that suggest different block shapes, the fed4 being more a "classic" shape block. (I assume it means more vintage-looking) I don't quite know what that means specifically though. Am I correct in saying the fed3 has a lower crown that a fed4? I've got a fed4 moonstone that I love. The possibility of owning a fed3 in tantalizing.
I've hat one of each and always preferred the Fed3. By the way, love the screen name and avatar. Hulk is my favorite Marvel character!

Excelsior!
Riothamus

lol! Thanks. When I was a kid I had a Hulk action figure that talked when you pressed a button. He would say three lines, "Hulk get mad! Hulk get strong! RWOAR!" Only the electronics were so bad, the "hulk get mad!" sounded like "Hulkamad." That's where I got the name. The Hulk picture in my avatar is from his "Mr. Fix-it" persona phase. That and I find the idea of the Incredible Hulk wearing a suit and fedora to be hilarious. At least it's passingly hat related!

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:30 am

I love my Fed three, it is just "unindy" enough (if you get my meaning) to combine the best aspects of the regular stock of akubras (wide brims) and an indy fedora (stylishness).

interbak · Post by **interbak** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:03 am

I can't really comment about brim dimensions, since my came "reverse dimensional cut" (2 3/4 on the sides and 2 1/2 front to back), so I trimmed it to 2 1/2 all the way around. what I do really like about the Fed III over the later hats, and I do have several including a Fed IV, is the felt, it's much softer and nicer to work with. In time the IV may soften and mold better, but it will take some wearing in, and by then my AB will be here and it might not ever happen.

Brian

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:17 am

Quick question for the hat experts. I've emailed Hats Direct as I was really wanting a grey Fed III for my CS "train traveller" hat. Unfortunately, the only greys they have left are 62s. I'm right at 23 5/8 so they said (great service as always from them, by the way) that, even with sizing tape, the hat might be too big. They said that there is a way to shrink the sweat band if I wanted to try it.

I'm afraid that I might be pulling another trick of convincing myself that I can make something work because I want it to work. I've been told that Fed IIIs run true to size, so can I shrink the sweat to have a 62 work with my head in both fit and just plain not looking silly? I ask because I had a 62 Fed IV and, even though the sizing tape helped, I never felt it fit right on the sides and made me feel like I looked Amish.

Thoughts?

jnicktem · Post by **jnicktem** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:23 am

What's the going rate for a Fed III? I happen to be a 62...

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:58 am

Crismas, you are just going to end up selling it because it will not feel right on your head. You'll look like a little kid in his father's hat.

Dave

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:24 pm

That' really what I was thinking, Dave. I knew I was hoping against hope. They have a few Fed IIIs available: different sizes, different colors for $70 aus. The IIIs are not returnable. Really good deal if you want one of these.

jnicktem · Post by **jnicktem** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:57 pm

Do you know if that includes shipping?

I'm really thinking about getting one of these for my father...

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:16 pm

I'm ordering a Black 56 cm this weekend.
I just can't decide between the Imperial or the Deluxe felts.
I've had the Deluxe Loaden and really liked it but
I've also got a Campdraft and Tawny Fawn in the Imperial
and it's great too.

Any thoughts on the felts types would be appreciated
Kilgour Trout

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:34 pm

With the Deluxe, you not only get a better quality felt, but sweatband as well.

hulkamad · Post by **hulkamad** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:57 pm

I'm waiting to hear back from hatsdirect. I think I'd like to get a fed3 in black if one is available. If you wear one size in a fed4, is it the same for a fed3? I seem to remember that their sizing chart changed somewhere down the road and wasn't sure if it was inbetween the 3 and 4...

Is this true?

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:04 pm

Hmmm...interesting

I've always just given them my
cm size and let them figure the best
fit. I always ask for a slightly larger 56
as they can vary a little. Otherwise, just a while on
the stretcher tends to give me the size I need.

I'm also waiting to chat with Jenny but as soon
as I finally settle the felt issue, I'm grabbing a black one
as well.

They should be getting out of bed in Australia
in the next few minutes eh

Cheers
Kilgour

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:26 pm

hulkamad wrote:I'm waiting to hear back from hatsdirect. I think I'd like to get a fed3 in black if one is available. If you wear one size in a fed4, is it the same for a fed3? I seem to remember that their sizing chart changed somewhere down the road and wasn't sure if it was inbetween the 3 and 4... Is this true?

I asked them this very thing. Here was their response:

your 61 Fed IV bought from us would have measured 60.5 as all the Fed IVs are 0.5 cm smaller than marked.

Fed IIIs run true to size marked.

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:08 pm

Well..I did it! Ordered up my black Fed lll Delux and boy I am amazed
at what I learned. When I dropped Jenny a line to discuss things
I couldn't believe it when she told me that Ron dropped the price of a Fed lll Deluxe
to only $100 AU, which works out to only about $90 Canuckistan Rubels!!!! $\:D/$
Wow, Wow, Wow and Wow!!!!

Ron and Jenny are so great to deal with. They are truly "The Best".

Guys and Gals, with prices like this, I would suggest anyone who wants a pre-CS Indy
and is on a budget...."Buy Now" cuz it ain't gonna get much better.

I'll try and post a pic when the black beauty arrives.
Cheers
Kilgour

P.s. I kinda mentioned to Jenny that we'd been chatting on the forum, to which she just emailed....

Hi Rob,
So it's all your fault:)!!!

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:26 pm

I know I've pestered the heck out of her (trying my best not to) in my quest to see if I could get in a Fed III size 62. So the Deluxes are $100 and the regulars are $70 Australian. Some really good deals there!

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:30 pm

That's right, 100 AU and 70 AU, which is phenomenal!

Has she been able to find one for you? Nothing like giving her a challenge eh

Jenny's up for it though.

Kilgour

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:14 pm

black and tawny fawn still available in the imperial felt at last count.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:44 am

Kilgour! Where the heck have you been hiding?!

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:42 pm

Down at the bottom of this pile of posts

.

I know I've been remiss in not attending my duties
as the strange old dust collector in the back room but
It's been dark for over 6 months up here in the
Great White North.

Now that the spring is here, An Old Man's fancy
turn's to Fedora's again eh!

It's great to be back.
Let's talk soon
Kilgour Trout

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:18 pm

You know how to reach me, old friend!

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:27 pm

...a loaded ballbat comes to mind....

Howdy Kilgour!!!

Regard! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:28 pm

Well played, Michaelson!

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:37 pm

After that 'Eisenhower' shot, you were due.

HIGH regards ! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:06 pm

I figured as much.

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:23 pm

Great to see both of you wonderful guys!

It always feels like coming home.. Umm..to the disfunctional

obsessive

slightly frightening

family I know and Love! $\:D/$

You guys really are the best

Let's get in touch soon.
Kilgour Trout

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:18 am

Just placed my order for a grey Fed III after bugging Jenny to death about the details. I had decided not to buy it as I agree with Dave that, at size 62, it would be too big even for my impressive cranial housing. However, I've got something special in mind for it.

jnicktem · Post by **jnicktem** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:17 am

Hey Crismans- if you don't mind sharing- what was the total cost including shipping is US Dollars?

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:04 am

I just grabbed a Tawny Fawn. Last one in my size!!!

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:16 am

Hey Chewie: You'll love the Tawny Fawn

It's become one of my very best dress hats as
it goes with all the lighter earth tones and it
nicely contrasts some other colours.

It holds it's shape and gets lot's of complements.
You chose wisely my friend

Cheers
Kilgour Trout

mcmanm · Post by **mcmanm** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:51 am

To Fed owners,

Any you guys have pics of the Fed III? I've never seen one. Maybe a few in different colors? Thanks in advance.

Matt

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:52 am

jnicktem wrote:Hey Crismans- if you don't mind sharing- what was the total cost including shipping is US Dollars?

Since it's a special order I didn't get the total last night. As soon as I know I'll post it here.

Post by **Dalexs** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:49 pm

Ok, $5000 worth of Lasek later, maybe I'm blind, but I'm not seeing the Fed III on the website. Do you have to call for these?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:07 pm

I believe you have to ask, Steve. The Fed III is technically a discontinued line, and therefore WOULDN'T show up on their website.

Regards! Michaelson

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:14 pm

Hey Dalex: Michealson is right. I emailed Jenny to enquire and
she told me she still had a number of them on the shelf.
I think with the move to the Fed lV they ended up just sitting.

What is terrific is that there still seemed to be a variety
of sizes and grades still left when I contacted her.
What made it special is that Ron dropped the prices.
The Fed D's are only 100 AU dollars and the Reg Fed III's
are only 70 AU Dollars. So quite a saving.

Drop her a line and see if there are any left.
Cheers
Kilgour

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:28 pm

mcmanm wrote:To Fed owners,

Any you guys have pics of the Fed III? I've never seen one. Maybe a few in different colors? Thanks in advance.

Matt

My first, and my first, very timid, bash job. Mid-Brown.

Carbon Gray

And something radically different, also in Mid-Brown

Dalexs - email them with what you're looking for. They will get back to you rather quickly.

jkdbuck76 · Post by **jkdbuck76** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:40 pm

crismans wrote:This is very interesting news!

Because of this! I know I've said this ad nauseum, but my main (really only) knock against the Fed IV is that I can't get a deep enough center bash. If I had a little larger crown to work with, that would be great!

Ditto. I like the Fed 4 color. I must say that the brim is a little shorter.

Also, one thing I didn't like about the shape was that on the Fed 4, when I put my dents in long and deep (like a Crystal Skull bash), it muffin-tops. I hate that! So I have to adapt and overcome and settle for shorter and less-deep side dents.

I said to myself "I wish I had something with the shape of the Fed3, but had a better color", then I bought a Henry.

They are all good hats. Don't get me wrong. But the center dent thingy on the Fed4 is the only drawback I have. Other than that, it is a pretty good hat.

I probably need to have it reblocked.

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:44 pm

Hey Chewie: Do you remember Dalex had a tutorial on changing
the ribbon on a Fed lll? Isn't it on the Hatsdirect site?

I think it was he that promoted changing of the ribbon
to something a little darker.
What I remember is that when I ordered my original Fed lll
and I asked about it and Jenny (the wonderful woman that she is)
sent me a length of darker contrasting ribbon.

I did switch it over and it really made it stand out.
It was really quite fun to replace the ribbon with Dalex's tutorial.

As I'm getting a good old TOHT black, I won't need to do this
but anyone interested should look and see the tutorial.

Cheers
Rob

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:47 am

Kilgour Trout wrote:Hey Chewie: Do you remember Dalex had a tutorial on changing
the ribbon on a Fed lll? Isn't it on the Hatsdirect site?
Cheers
Rob

http://www.hatsdirect.com/hat-info/ribbon.html

Jenny sent me a link with the order confirmation!

Post by **Dalexs** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:14 pm

WOW! I forgot they did that... I should ask them for a free hat!

(And check out the kid in the photo!)

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:08 pm

Yeah! Who IS that guy, I wonder?

Regards !Michaelson