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Maybe it's true Indy had the same hat for many many years!
That was in the thread about 'Army of the Dead' over at Lao Che'sRestless Dreamer wrote:I remeber another quote like that being posted here on COW. it was about Mac and Indy talking about his hat, in which Indy stated he reblocked it a thousand times or so, and that there are hatters who can fix an hole in the felt, even if it costs you an arm or a leg - something like this.
I did a search, and did not come to any findings...
Arch Stanton wrote:"Hello? Have a look." Mac pointed.
At first, Indy wasn't sure what he was seeing, but
then he was.
"My hat!"
He managed to get to his feet, and to the hat. He
picked it up, shook the sand off it, and put it on.
He suddenly felt better. Things could be worse. Yeah,
they had crashed into the sea, but they were alive, he
had his whip, his revolver, and his hat. That was a
good sign. Nothing was broken. The day was definitely
looking up.
Mac said, "I've been meaning to ask you-how have
you managed to keep that blasted hat in one piece?
You've had it as long as I've known you."
Indy grinned. "I've had it longer than that."
Mac raised an eyebrow.
"I was...thirteen? Almost fourteen. It involved the
Cross of Coronado."
"I've heard of that. Gold, preciuos stones, suppose-
edly had a sliver of Christ's cross tucked away in it?"
Indy nodded. "Yeah. If every sliver of wood that's
supposed to have come from that cross got piled up
together, it would be bigger than a giant sequoia. Any-
way, I swiped the artifact from some tomb raiders, but
Fedora outfoxed me."
"Fedora?"
"I never knew his name. This hat was his. I think he
took a shine to me after we went 'round. He gave me
some good advice, and this hat, as a consolation
prize."
"What was the advice?"
"Essentially, you can't win 'em all. Sometimes you
have to wait for another day. He was right. Eventu-
ally, I did collect Coronado's Cross and got it to the
university's museum."
"And you still have the hat."
"Yeah, I get it blocked and dry-cleaned when I'm
back in civilization, use a hat jack when it's in the
closet. Had the seatband replaced eight or nine times.
And there are hatmakers who can repair a tear or hole
in felt, though it costs an arm and a leg. For what I've
spent on this fedora over the years, I could have
bought my own haberdashery."
Mac shook his head.
"Hey, everybody has to be someplace," Indy said.
"And when I'm there, I have my lucky hat."
"Lucky?"
"I'm still breathing, aren't I?"
Mac grinned.
"what say we go and find some locals and see where
we are?" Indy said.
is probably inspired by a sentence of Guglielmo da Baskerville, a character from Il Nome della Rosa, a novel by Umberto Eco:If every sliver of wood that's supposed to have come from that cross got piled up together, it would be bigger than a giant sequoia.
Di frammenti della croce ne ho visti molti altri, in altre chiese. Se tutti fossero autentici, Nostro Signore non sarebbe stato suppliziato su due assi incrociate, ma su di una intera foresta.
Yeah...but....that would mean that those of us who are Gearheads are as bad as Trekies.Michaelson wrote:Considering Army of the Dead essentially just came out, I think someone was just trying to tie up 'loose ends' in the Indy canon myself.
Regards! Michaelson
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Novels always have way more info than the movies theyre made into. And novels that are based on pre-existing movie characters, but not the movies they were in, can have even more info, partly because theyre not bogged down by a particular movie.Indiana Jeff wrote:That's really specific hat care to be inserted as "regular" dialog in an otherwise adventure story. References to reblocking and hat jacks? I imagine the typical reader is going to be an Indy fan, but as we've discussed here many times, most Indy fans aren't nearly as fanatical about the gear. Let alone specifics of fedora maintenance. I've been an Indy fan since Raiders, but terms like blocking and hat jacks were foreign to me until I joined COW. I'm surprised the editor wouldn't cross out the dialog and write a giant "huh?" in the margin of the manuscript.
Regards,
Indiana Jeff
While Indiana might be our favorite hero, there's no doubt that a phaser would out shoot a revolver.Yeah but between gearheads and trekkies at least we know who would win in a fight!
I'm not to sure about that one. Since we can see the phaser move across screen it would have to be slower than a bullet.Indiana MarkVII wrote:While Indiana might be our favorite hero, there's no doubt that a phaser would out shoot a revolver.Yeah but between gearheads and trekkies at least we know who would win in a fight!
Agreed! Bullwhips = real damage inflicted. Phasers = CG effects.Tennessee Smith wrote:I'm not to sure about that one. Since we can see the phaser move across screen it would have to be slower than a bullet.Indiana MarkVII wrote:While Indiana might be our favorite hero, there's no doubt that a phaser would out shoot a revolver.Yeah but between gearheads and trekkies at least we know who would win in a fight!
And .45's aren't set to stun.
Indy fans 2
Trekkies 0
Just think you can actually wear Indy's gear out and it you can actually use it. Try walking the streets dressed up as Captain Kirk!!
Restless Dreamer wrote:thank you!
I'll quote Arch here
Arch Stanton wrote:"Hello? Have a look." Mac pointed.
At first, Indy wasn't sure what he was seeing, but
then he was.
"My hat!"
He managed to get to his feet, and to the hat. He
picked it up, shook the sand off it, and put it on.
He suddenly felt better. Things could be worse. Yeah,
they had crashed into the sea, but they were alive, he
had his whip, his revolver, and his hat. That was a
good sign. Nothing was broken. The day was definitely
looking up.
Mac said, "I've been meaning to ask you-how have
you managed to keep that blasted hat in one piece?
You've had it as long as I've known you."
Indy grinned. "I've had it longer than that."
Mac raised an eyebrow.
"I was...thirteen? Almost fourteen. It involved the
Cross of Coronado."
"I've heard of that. Gold, preciuos stones, suppose-
edly had a sliver of Christ's cross tucked away in it?"
Indy nodded. "Yeah. If every sliver of wood that's
supposed to have come from that cross got piled up
together, it would be bigger than a giant sequoia. Any-
way, I swiped the artifact from some tomb raiders, but
Fedora outfoxed me."
"Fedora?"
"I never knew his name. This hat was his. I think he
took a shine to me after we went 'round. He gave me
some good advice, and this hat, as a consolation
prize."
"What was the advice?"
"Essentially, you can't win 'em all. Sometimes you
have to wait for another day. He was right. Eventu-
ally, I did collect Coronado's Cross and got it to the
university's museum."
"And you still have the hat."
"Yeah, I get it blocked and dry-cleaned when I'm
back in civilization, use a hat jack when it's in the
closet. Had the seatband replaced eight or nine times.
And there are hatmakers who can repair a tear or hole
in felt, though it costs an arm and a leg. For what I've
spent on this fedora over the years, I could have
bought my own haberdashery."
Mac shook his head.
"Hey, everybody has to be someplace," Indy said.
"And when I'm there, I have my lucky hat."
"Lucky?"
"I'm still breathing, aren't I?"
Mac grinned.
"what say we go and find some locals and see where
we are?" Indy said.
This seem to me really exaggerated.. Not only was written by a gearhead, but is not beliveable at all! 
davidd wrote:Shatner would've made a great Indy!
I wonder who blocked and bashed Captain Kirk's hats?
Bones! I said tight front pinch!
D@mmit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a haberdasher!
LOL, I can wear my capt. kirk outfit in public just as easily as indy gear.....and wear my phaser out in public....try wearing indy's s&W or webley.....Indy77 wrote:Indy gearheads beat the Trekkies easily!!
Arizona is open carry but I think only with a license. Texas is not open carry, concealed with a license only...of course, unless you're a officer of the law. I sure wish Texas would go open carry.....Michaelson wrote:That would completely depend on what part of the country you were standing in at that particular moment.
NYC wearing a side arm like the Smith or Webley? You'd be put UNDER the city jail.
Arizona? Texas? no one would give you a second look.
Kirk outfit with phaser, EVERYONE would definitely notice you, that's for sure. Not sure what would happen after that.
NYC? No one would give you a second look.
Arizona? Texas? You'd definitely draw some attention from the locals.
It's all relative.
Regards! Michaelson
Right now, I'm about an hour north of Houston, I used to live in Ft. Worth and up in Wichita Falls.....always got comments and looks in WF, never wore one in Ft. Worth...and the little town I'm in now looks at me funny if I wear a vest and sports coat....so, I reckon that tells you the type of people that live in this town.Michaelson wrote:Interesting. What part of Texas are you in?
I've worn fedoras all OVER Texas over the years, and never got as much as even a glance from anyone regarding my hat.
I guess as one gets older (as I am), folks kind of ignore things like that after a while. Just a guess, mind you.....
Regards! Michaelson
Maybe people don't notice your hat because your mustache takes all the attention away from itMichaelson wrote:I've worn fedoras all OVER Texas over the years, and never got as much as even a glance from anyone regarding my hat.
My feeling is that half of his gear is essentially military surplus (like the pants, shirt, and bag). These items would have been easy to find in substantial surplus quantities where he could've stocked up on them, replacing items as needed.wembley wrote: But ten why would he buy dozens of almost identical kit...where would he get it all down the years as styles changed?
This about sums it up, afaic.wembley wrote:Indy wears the same style hat, jacket pants etc etc though all the films...I guess we are supposed to believe it's all his original kit (which of course it isn't in reality) despite it being highly improbable after his hat and jacket etc has been shot at, dragged along behind trucks, had stones burning through his bag etc etc. No repair work could compensate for decades of that kind of abuse.
But ten why would he buy dozens of almost identical kit...where would he get it all down the years as styles changed?
Just one of those Indyosyncrasies we love to wrestle with and will never find a 100% certain conclusion to and is part of what makes Indy, Indy. It's just a style we expect of Indy, and skirt over the obvious continuity and plausibility flaws.
Again, I vote for custom work as some of his gear isn't military issue clothing, just military styled clothing. The shirt isn't military issue, the pants might or might not be. He gets one or two shirts and pants made whenever the others wear out or get torn up. Same with the jacket. And same with the fedora. I say the only thing he can conceivably buy military surplus would be the mrk VII except, that wasn't available until WWII.....binkmeisterRick wrote:My feeling is that half of his gear is essentially military surplus (like the pants, shirt, and bag). These items would have been easy to find in substantial surplus quantities where he could've stocked up on them, replacing items as needed.wembley wrote: But ten why would he buy dozens of almost identical kit...where would he get it all down the years as styles changed?
Then there's the whole fictitious character thing.
