Wested pants has almost become Raiders perfection! UPDATE

Post by **Holt** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:01 pm

Hi guys.

we all know that the wested pants have the wrong cut. way wrong!! to bad becasue the wested pants have 2 extremley good things about them. 1 is that they are made with the same material as the orignals and 2 they have the best raiders color.

BUT the cut of the pants are WAY OF. they are TOO baggy in the waist and they are to narrow towards the feet. a really carrot effect which is not by any chance even close to how the originals raiders pants were.

why wested dont change their pattern when they had the original pants to copy last year beats me.

okay so were am I going with this?.....

My baby sister who is also a tailor took care of it for me. Im lucky that way

so now the pants are with less of the baggy waist and carrot legs. She even made the pants with a millitary hem. GO sis! $\:D/$

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:06 pm

;0 of them being worn!!

LJ

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:35 pm

Your sis may be able to drum up business from COWers who want that service done!

Post by **Holt** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:56 pm

hehe. nope. only for me she said. I joked about you see.

here are some pictures of me having them on with the rest of the gear.

notice the drape and baggyness. this is not normal for a wested to have.

Raiders all the way. I love'em.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:57 pm

Looks great Holt!

Kyle

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:46 am

Those are

$\:D/$

!!!!
Very nice trousers Holt. So it would be possible to have a tailor alter Wested pants to make real Raiders then, no?

By the way, that photo of the guy in gear is Not you. You Photoshopped a Raiders HF still to make it look like it was you in your house. No, seriously...

That is great gear.

TenuredProfessor · Post by **TenuredProfessor** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:57 am

I second whipcrackers's query. Why hasn't anyone else done this to their Wested pants? I've got two pair. The unfortunate 'Carrot Effect' is their only drawback!! Great material, drape...well that's it. But, I'm taking mine to a tailor first thing. I'll bring my 'Complete making of Indiana Jones' book for reference

Thanks Holt! Your gear is stellar!!!

David

RaidersBash · Post by **RaidersBash** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:16 am

Hopefully you have a good tailor David, that speaks english. I've been fighting for a week through the language barrier with my local. I took in 2 pairs of identical slacks, except one had a 30 waist, the other 32's. I wanted military hem on both, and the 32's taken in to fit like the 30's. somehow, the took in the 30's , and hemmed them too short

...so in the repair process of undoing what the did, and fixing what they didn't the first time, the 32's now have a goofy "pucker" going on along the butt seam, and the 30's that they let out in the leg, because they cut the excess material on the hem, now have like a 2" hem line...

next time i'm only looking for english speaking businesses.

TenuredProfessor · Post by **TenuredProfessor** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:27 am

Thanks Raidersbash! Also for the Facebook ad

Well, after seeing Holt's alterations, I think I have to take a chance. Maybe not surprisingly, I have a pair of 34s and 36s for estra bagginess. The 36s are tighter!!! The smaller pair is baggier. I'm taking in the tighter ones as the guinea pig. It is decided

Wested sure has a sense of humor when it comes to sizing

David

mrkaboom · Post by **mrkaboom** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:15 am

ill have a good gander at that picture when i get home and task me ma with getting my pants sorted as mine are baggy at the waist and i reckon what your sis has done is spot on.

MK

Post by **Holt** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:26 am

Thanx guys I really appreciate the feedback on the pants.

Ill also pass the message to my sis

and thanx for the comments on the gear.

rover smith · Post by **rover smith** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:37 am

Looking great Holt, your sister done a great job. They really remind me of this pic.

Can you shre the exact alterations she made? thanks

Post by **Holt** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:59 am

EDIT

thats the exact picture I showed my sis and she did a bang up job!! just LOOK at the drape and crease at the left leg compared to Fords.

whats she did ws the split open the middle seam in the butt and she split open the inner and outer seam. she almost took the pants apart. thats all I know. I have to ask her what she did. I know she used quite some time on them.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:16 am

Sincere kudos to your sister (and respect for her skills)...

Sincerest congratulations on that magnificent pair of Indy pants!

Those things look like a RINGER for the ones in the ones in RAIDERS.

rover smith · Post by **rover smith** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:21 am

Yup they drape in the exact same way. At a guess I'd say she probably removed a few inches of fabric here and there. If I was a little more skilled I would give it a go myself but I would likely end up ruining the trousers.

I have a pair of Westeds which I will be taking to the tailor soon as I'm done moving house. If I can get them looking anywhere near yours I'd be happy.

Again, great stuff.

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:28 am

They look fantastic, Holt! I personally would have them taken in just a little bit more around the thigh to make the cut even straighter, but I'm just being super-picky. Noel Howard once told me that the cut of the originals was not as baggy as everyone thought - it was more the drape of the material that gave that effect.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:53 am

Holt those pants look great! Your sis did a bang up job on them. The drape is very accurate to the WoS promo picture, even in the way the pants break at the foot. The fact that you just gave her the pants, and she used this picture shows she knows exactly what she is doing.

IndianaSean · Post by **IndianaSean** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:10 pm

Awsome!!! Would love to know what your sister did so all us gear heads can take those wested pants to the tailors!! Secrets..please...please...please....

Sean

IndianaChris711 · Post by **IndianaChris711** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:55 pm

Hey Holt it seems like you always pull out all the stops that make us

and

Seriously does your sister want to work at Wested??

Those are probably the most very accurate pants I have seen on anyone. I know Magnoli does outstanding stuff. Wow Holt, just absolutely amazing. You need to fax the info to tailors over here.

IndianaChris

Post by **Holt** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:14 pm

Thanx guys. I appreciate all the nice comments. really!

yep. I thought I could safely could say that they are almost raiders perfection.

next thing my sis is going to do for me is making new acurrate pocket flaps.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:58 pm

Nice, nice, nice and nice!

Travis

Post by **Holt** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:40 pm

thanx, thanx, thanx and thanx!

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:47 pm

Okay, now your sis has to sign up on COW so we can talk to her directly...

Awesome work!

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:14 pm

Awesome those are nice pants!

Your sister did a great job!!!

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:58 am

Job well done by your sis! I always wondered if there was enough material to be able to take out the bottom of the trousers.
So, she basically took out the center seam in the back and the side seams (inner & outer) & then sewed them back up?
Could you flip them inside out and show us the seams? I'd be interested in how much material is left near the cuff especially.

In any case your sis did a fantastic job.

Cheers!

Dan

rover smith · Post by **rover smith** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:54 am

DanielJones wrote:I'd be interested in how much material is left near the cuff especially

Holt said she did them with the Military hem. This thread has all the info you need on that, with good pics and diagrams

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=39008

Post by **Holt** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:07 pm

okay. here is the ultimate screen test. I dulled the brightness down a bit.

I took these pictures today with my other hat. the Well of souls hat. if you havent seen it then here it is. but please not any of topic hat talk. I just thought I could show which hat I took the pcitures with.

Alkali Jones · Post by **Alkali Jones** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:48 am

Indiana Holt wrote:okay. here is the ultimate screen test. I dulled the brightness down a bit.

Hey Holt,

How did you get Indy to stand in front of your bedroom door??? And who's the guy on the right? Great work!

Dan S

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:03 am

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Indiana Holt wrote:okay. here is the ultimate screen test. I dulled the brightness down a bit.

Ok Holt, you are starting to tick me off!

How?How?HOW?

It looks EXACTLY like the promo pic!!!! Ok, I guess I'm just jealous...green is not my color.

Unbelievable job.

Travis

rover smith · Post by **rover smith** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:36 am

haha, I was waiting for that shot, brilliant!

Post by **Holt** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:55 am

you guys crack me up.

thanx for the compliments. I appreciate it

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:44 pm

You've really inspired me with that shot, Holt...
I've gotta try to mimic that promo shot sometime.

FordPerfect · Post by **FordPerfect** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:08 pm

And good luck with the pocket flaps -
I think the Wested's have even less fabric on the flap to play with for reshaping. This is what I managed to get out of the Noel Howard's after matching up the weave of the fabric to get the right size & curve...

The addition of the smaller button is what makes the difference, although to be SA it needs to be almost shirt button sized, meaning the hole has to be stitched up a little to accomodate it...

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:48 am

rover smith wrote:
DanielJones wrote:I'd be interested in how much material is left near the cuff especially
Holt said she did them with the Military hem. This thread has all the info you need on that, with good pics and diagrams

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=39008

Ah, I think I didn't state it clearly. I'm not talking about the amount of material left on the hemmed portion but on the side seams down near the hemmed area. Is there enough fabric to open up the leg to make it straight like Holts and how much is left over after sewing up the inner & outer seams? That's all I wanted to see.

Cheers!

Dan

rover smith · Post by **rover smith** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:51 am

Got ya Daniel.

On the flap mod for westeds, Fedoraider done a pretty good job on his

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=42327&p=605342&hil ... ap#p605342

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:26 am

If you have a pair you will see how much material is left. not much. but my sis did her magic and it came out incredible. I still havent talked to her about the pants. I keep forgettting it.....

IndyBrit · Post by **IndyBrit** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:50 am

Hi Holt,

Looking forward to your Sister's insider tips-what she did. My wife is a talented fashion designer and with the right info could easily alter my Westeds.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:08 pm

I talked to Linda my sis just now and she said that they are sewn wider from the knee and down. inseam and outerseam

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:34 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:I talked to Linda my sis just now and she said that they are sewn wider from the knee and down. inseam and outerseam

Ok, I see. Makes sense. Thanks for the information & pictures Holt, very helpful.

Cheers!

Dan

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:36 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:hehe. nope. only for me she said. I joked about you see.

here are some pictures of me having them on with the rest of the gear.

notice the drape and baggyness. this is not normal for a wested to have.

Raiders all the way. I love'em.

Dayyymnnnnn!!! Awesome shot!

You're gonna have to fight them gals off with a stick!

Post by **Holt** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:14 pm

I have my whip.

thanx

Digger4Glory · Post by **Digger4Glory** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:58 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:EDIT

thats the exact picture I showed my sis and she did a bang up job!! just LOOK at the drape and crease at the left leg compared to Fords.

whats she did ws the split open the middle seam in the butt and she split open the inner and outer seam. she almost took the pants apart. thats all I know. I have to ask her what she did. I know she used quite some time on them.

I agree, your Sis, knows her stuff! These pants look great and seeing them compared to this pic really sends it home! Excellent work. If she wanted, I'm sure she could make some nice cash right here in the alterations biz.

MARQ · Post by **MARQ** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:28 am

what size are they and are they loose on the crotch,looks nice!

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:39 pm

I wouldn't mind getting a pair, but the pocket flaps bug me. That and because of my height id rather get them unfinished and have them hemmed, but these pants are 35 long unfinished. I think id need a 40 to get the four inch hem.

indydude18 · Post by **indydude18** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:56 pm

Indiana Joyce wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a pair, but the pocket flaps bug me. That and because of my height id rather get them unfinished and have them hemmed, but these pants are 35 long unfinished. I think id need a 40 to get the four inch hem.

Yeah, you'd need a long pair. You know, Fedoraiders posted a thread where he modified the Wested flaps to look more SA and I think he did a pretty good job!

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:24 pm

Ill check that out. I might have to have a two inch hem, unless I can get a pair longer then 35.

nihil · Post by **nihil** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:36 pm

Holt, can you ask your sister which modifications she made?

Bogie1943 · Post by **Bogie1943** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:05 pm

I've wanted to order a pair of Wested trousers for long time but I've always been turned off by the sizing. I'd buy a pair right now if they would fit me but I'm a skinny fellow. I see that they offer a 28 waist which is my size. How does everyone feel about their waist sizing? I'm sticking to my Magnoli trousers until I feel comfortable buying Wested trousers. Perfect fit! Having said that you trousers look great Holt! Raiders spot on!

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:15 pm

Not to steal this thread, but, try Todds Indy pants, there spot on.

Croft

Oh and Holt, your sister a talented seamstress, she did a nice job.

Oildale Jones · Post by **Oildale Jones** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:51 pm

Indiana Croft wrote:Not to steal this thread, but, try Todds Indy pants, there spot on.

Not to aid and abet the stealing of this thread, but the Todd's trousers I just got do NOT have a military hem (at least by the definition of "military hem" that I know).