The "Turn" - Is it a Raiders Standard?

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Re: The "Turn" - Is it a Raiders Standard?

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To each his own. In the end, the person wearing the hat has to be happy and confident with the way it looks on them, now how it should look or how other people think it looks.
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do whatever you like. of course. to each his own. Ford wore two different brim shapes anyways. a straight and a turned. so both are SA.

me? I like it turned :D
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generalFROSTY wrote:To each his own. In the end, the person wearing the hat has to be happy and confident with the way it looks on them, now how it should look or how other people think it looks.
I agree that the person needs to like what they are wearing but I would never cut a brim like what you are talking about.
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I think I had read here somewhere how a member cut down his brim a smidgen to better accomidate the shape of his head.
Again, when it comes to hats - I'm still a newbie so pardon me that I really don't know a whole lot yet. I learn more every week being a member here.
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generalFROSTY wrote:I think I had read here somewhere how a member cut down his brim a smidgen to better accomidate the shape of his head.
Again, when it comes to hats - I'm still a newbie so pardon me that I really don't know a whole lot yet. I learn more every week being a member here.
But you know what YOU like, and I like that. Don't ever forget that this hobby is awesome, but you are not Indiana Jones or Harrison Ford. Take the love of the gear and the spirit of the movies and adapt it to YOU. :TOH:


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generalFROSTY wrote:I think I had read here somewhere how a member cut down his brim a smidgen to better accomidate the shape of his head.
Again, when it comes to hats - I'm still a newbie so pardon me that I really don't know a whole lot yet. I learn more every week being a member here.

I think you are talking about someone who cut the brim down but dont make one side shorter than the other.
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Hollowpond wrote:
generalFROSTY wrote:I think I had read here somewhere how a member cut down his brim a smidgen to better accomidate the shape of his head.
Again, when it comes to hats - I'm still a newbie so pardon me that I really don't know a whole lot yet. I learn more every week being a member here.
But you know what YOU like, and I like that. Don't ever forget that this hobby is awesome, but you are not Indiana Jones or Harrison Ford. Take the love of the gear and the spirit of the movies and adapt it to YOU. :TOH:


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generalFROSTY wrote:I think I had read here somewhere how a member cut down his brim a smidgen to better accomidate the shape of his head.
Probably the shape of his face, not the head.
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About brim cutting. I had a Fed IV, long before i entered COW, and i knew nothing about the turn, i bashed waving brim using hands. Then i tried turn, and didn't liked the results. So time goes by, and i got soaked in heavy rain, fedora shrunk and lost its shape, so the only thing i thought could save it, is to cut the brim down a bit, and turn it into "not Indy hat". So here what it looks like today:
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Notice that hat is actually turned a bit.
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Very hard to tell from that shot.
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One more:
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That one is going to be hard to tell because it's not sitting on your head in line. Look at the tight pinch in the front and your nose.
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if the hat was turned/rotated then the bow would be more in front above your eyes.

from what I can see your hat is not turned.
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BendingOak wrote:That one is going to be hard to tell because it's not sitting on your head in line. Look at the tight pinch in the front and your nose.
yep, in the last shot it's not sitting on the head as it should, but it is turned a small bit, it cant be turned more, hat shrunk and cannot allow to do so.
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Hi,
Here is my fed4 dlx with 10 percent turn, after a little reblock. Excuse me for a bad picture quality.
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I'm not sure why this post showed up as unread when the last post was from 2010, but . . .

as some of you may know, my Fed III was coming to the end of its useful life and was getting very thin in the front pinch. So I stripped it down, reblocked it, and then sewed everything back in/on with the hat in reverse.

I bashed it straight on (no turn) and wasn't happy with it although the hat had been bashed straight on in its former reversed incarnation.

So I got the bright idea to experiment with a turn. John helped me out a lot. Short story, with this hat, I am very happy with it turned. It's about 30 degrees off-center which puts the center of the bow just over my side burn which looks right as compared to what I see in some screen grabs. That's it there in my avatar. For more pictures, see the thread entitled 'reverse reblock.'

I just tried this very same thing tonight with my Fed IV and I don't like the way it looks. I'd say a lot of how the hat will look turned depends on the actual hat.
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Back to the beginning subject of shaping SoC lids, I can't seem to get my HJ to cooperate on even the larger, prominent details, like the deep and uniquely shaped dents in the front. I put them in, but as soon as I put the hat on, they go about thier own plans which end up looking shallow and end up too far back. Also, my HJ doesn't seem like it's tall enough despite being reblocked on--I believe--a Delk Raiders block. Should I be stepping out of a HJ if I want an accurate SoC Raiders look?

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In order for bash details to stay put in hats I have done, I wet them down, and then bash them onand off my head.

On my head to get things centered, and then off my head to work in details that my head will not allow to stay in place. Then I gingerly put it on my head to see how it looks, and then sometimes I have to readjust off my head again. Then I rest it on a round form such as a motorcycle helmet and let it dry over night. Nine times out of ten, the hat keeps the bashed shape after it has dried.
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Thanks for the tip, Indiana Bugs! I'll give that a shot.

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Let us know how it turns out, regardless of the method(s) used.
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