Poet-and I didn't even know it!

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:36 am

I've had this vintage HJ hat(new bond street) in my colllection for a long time.A friend of mine calls it my 'pimp' hat!

I was browsing through old Fedora threads on COW last night and found out that another member here also had one of these hats and he said it is a HJ 'Shag Poet' from the 1970s!-apparently Richard Swales confirmed that these 'Shag' hats were indeed Poets.
I'm really pleased to find out that I have a genuine Poet from the 70s!

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The other member shaved the shag off his hat and pounced it and that's what I am going to do with this one..I think there is a nice Grey vintage Poet underneath waiting to get out!
The hat is 5 1/2" open-crowned.The brim was 3" wide(much too wide for me),I trimmed it down to 2 1/2" which is just right for my face.
I've started shaving it with a disposable razor-will post pics of finished results.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:39 am

ha HA! I thought it was seriously mouldy from the first pic!

Seems a bit of a shame to shave it!

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:47 am

I did try wearing it outside once-felt really silly!-I mean,what could you wear it with?
It's just been shoved in the back of my wardrobe,if I shave it at least I can wear it without looking like Huggy Bear!

.

Post by **Holt** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:49 am

indypimp

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:08 am

Way back Dakota, a member here, bought one like this, and shaved and pounced it down and created a great looking hat. I found one, and tried the same thing. Lots of work!! Then some guy sent me one, and I just did not have the time to do it, as it is very time consuming. You used to see these quite a bit, from HJ in the old days, here on COW. Fedora

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:11 am

How many muppets go into making that felt?

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:17 am

mark seven wrote:I did try wearing it outside once-felt really silly!-I mean,what could you wear it with?

Are you serious? "What could you wear it with?" ?????

THIS, of course:

][ndy · Post by **][ndy** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:41 am

First I really thought that hat was full with fuller's earth, but after a closer look, I noticed the fur.

I hope shaving is coming along nicely.

btw. did they just use a whole rabbit for this?!

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:13 am

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:19 am

Make me want to get my electric razor out pronto! I too thought the hat was covered in mold at first look.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:46 am

I would think that using a razor on a hat wouldn't be good for it. Steve didn't mention anything about that though. I'm just afraid that you will hsave too much off with a razor. Couldn't it be pounced all the way down? More work, yes, but it has to be safer, right?

Dave

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:51 am

I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck.

sithspawn · Post by **sithspawn** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:31 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck.

Better yet he could put the Staff of Ra headpiece on a pole and have a nifty Indypimp walking stick.

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:08 pm

Put THIS on top of the staff to match the boots.

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:46 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck.

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:30 pm

That Peruvian guy in the back thinks he looks ridiculous!

Shane

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:52 pm

It works for me! Now we're ready for Indy X!

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:25 pm

Is that the one where Indy and John Shaft team up to take down Snoop Dog's pimpin' ring?

Indiana MarkVII · Post by **Indiana MarkVII** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:26 am

I will never trust another photograph ever again. Great work on the Indypimp. I hope that NEVER happens in truth!

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:25 am

He could be one of the Joker's goons in the old Burton Batman movie.

Dave

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:18 am

That's just what I was thinking as soon as I put the green and purple together.

MustangLoverMex · Post by **MustangLoverMex** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:13 pm

That kind of hats are no longer produced (At least the same quality), so If I were you, I would leave it as it is, and get another fur body to make the hat.
At least that's what I would do...
Regards,
-Alfonso

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 pm

Heck, shave it off with a hair trimmer, til you reach a solid surface. Fedora

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:24 pm

Nuts. I keep looking for these, and every time someone finds one they start shaving it. I think it'd be a great "Commissioner Dolan" hat from The Spirit (comic), but I can never find one that isn't shaved.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:33 pm

They look too similiar to those toilet bowl covers you used to see, for me. Fedora

Snapbrim76 · Post by **Snapbrim76** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:31 pm

That hat will look so nice once you've pounced it.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:16 pm

Fedora wrote:They look too similiar to those toilet bowl covers you used to see, for me. Fedora

My grandmothers used to have one of those in pink!

Dave

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:22 pm

It would always make the toilet seat fall down. You would have to hold the toilet seat with one foot while going #1 at the same time. I hated them things! Seriously though, when was it ever cool to wear a hat like this?

Travis

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:08 pm

How did you not ever noticed it was a HJ?? LOL!

Have you considered making a mould of the hat... you know, that method to create a block from a preblocked hat? From what I can see your pimp HJ it looks like a nice shape.

By the ways that hat was called "the pimp hat" also by employees of Herbert Johnson shop. Apparently it was Richard Swales' favourite model

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:21 pm

Erri wrote:How did you not ever noticed it was a HJ?? LOL!

Erri,I knew it was a HJ-that's why I bought it!-I didn't know it was a Poet( under that all that hair!

)

Ranger36 · Post by **Ranger36** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:26 pm

Mark Brody wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:28 pm

mark seven wrote:
Erri wrote:How did you not ever noticed it was a HJ?? LOL!

Erri,I knew it was a HJ-that's why I bought it!-I didn't know it was a Poet( under that all that hair! )

lol, sorry I see. How do you recognize a "poet" though? I never understood that part... do we know of any other model HJ used to sell aside from the Poet? I only know of another one but there must have been plenty of them in the hey-days. Do you know any others? (just curious)

If they only had written the name of the hat under the sweatband!!

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:49 pm

That's a unique period piece, or odd poet from the 70's. Can we see it on your head? Would you entertain putting on a matching 70's "getup" (tinted aviator sunglasses, etc.) for the camera? Just wondering, interesting stuff.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:31 pm

Don't forget to wear your 'MembersOnly' jacket too!

Regard! Michaelson

3thoubucks · Post by **3thoubucks** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:22 am

Beautifull hat mark seven. Sorry for this creepy Hitler pic. He looks real beady-eyed here. The really disturbing thing is that his bash is so Indy. I have one of these 70's HJ pimp hats in black. It's called a "METEOR" on the paper tag in back -what does "meteor" have to do with bein' a pimp?? I don't think this poet? has the Raiders block, and the brim flange is too extreme. It has an incredibly plush smooth slippery soft feel to it that I love. It's like having a pet hat, it's so furry. The only example of one of these I was aware of before I bought it was Der Furors. ................. Nien nein nien! Oh, Yes yes yes! Gnat-zees.

My Meteor has a wider ribbon than mark seven's, about the same as Hitlars. This picture is from 1930.

Travelsonic · Post by **Travelsonic** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:24 am

;0

I am dying to see how it looks now with a clean shave.

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:43 am

More pics coming soon guys..I'm about 2/3rds way through now,I've been sanding in the Garden because of the fluff that's coming off(lethal stuff!).This sanding seems never-ending!

Snapbrim76 · Post by **Snapbrim76** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:25 am

So seeing as you're shaving your pimp hat, does that mean you've had a change of career?

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:39 am

Dave

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:30 pm

I've got no Photoshop Skills... but I sure would love it if someone here could use an "Indy" Font to make - and post an image of - a logo for "Pimpiana Jones"...
...or...
would we all just get ourselves into some hot water?

Hmmm....

yeah... y'know what? Never mind...

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:26 am

You sure that shaggy hat isn't Beaver?

Carolina Tom · Post by **Carolina Tom** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:50 pm

Well. . . . .what happened?????

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:24 pm

Carolina Tom wrote:Well. . . . .what happened?????

His hat was really a Tribble and he's trapped under a pile of them.

Snapbrim76 · Post by **Snapbrim76** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:18 pm

I think its a messy job and its probably getting a bit tedious.

Any progress lately Mark Seven? Or is it like a knife fight with Chewbacca?

Dangerman009 · Post by **Dangerman009** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:55 pm

From what I've seen in episodes of Starskey and Hutch, MacMillan & Wife, Columbo, The Rockford Files and The Lawrence Welk Show the 1970s were not kind to very many people. Plus if they wait another twenty years to make the next Indiana Jones movie I think the title should be: INDIANA JONES and the ATTACK OF THE '70s.

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 am

Snapbrim76 wrote:
Any progress lately Mark Seven? Or is it like a knife fight with Chewbacca?

Nearly done..I didn't realise how much work this was going to be!-it's an effort of will now to keep going but I'm determined to finish it!

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:41 am

Some of those hats are easier to work up than others. I had no problem with the one I did. I used a hair clipper to shear off the long fur down to the felt. I then pulled it over a block and singed it. Pulling out a vibrator sander with 220 grit, I had it down to the good felt in less than 30 minutes. Once I got to the good felt, and it was smooth, I hand sanded it the rest of the way, using 320 grit.

But there is another kind of long haired felt that is made differently. There is not enough smooth felt underneath the long hair. On these types, its a waste of time, because you never can take it down to actual felt. Fedora