My fed 4.new pictures. RE: NEW PICTURES

Post by **Holt** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:04 pm

Ok. After seeing fedoraiders AWESOME hat. I became so inspired by his pictures so I thought I could show my Fed 4. I am curious to hear what he thinks about it.

I gave my fed 4 a rework around a month ago but it has been in the closet since.

The hat is not reblocked. The brim is trimmed though as the Fed 4 comes with a little too wide brim.

The ribbon is replaced and the bow is reworked...

It will never be as awesome as the fedoraiders but this is as best as I could get it without reblocking it.

What do you think?

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:20 pm

Looks great Holt! I haven't owned a Federation in years but you and fedoraraider have inspired me to buy one and beat the tar outta it! My AB is too pretty for Fullers Earth!

Local Land Surveyor · Post by **Local Land Surveyor** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:39 pm

Good job Holt.
Inspiration spreads.

(Now with canola oil.

)
The Cairo hat is the ultimate work hat. Also, it seems to make the "casual Indy" look "pop" when not wearing the leather jacket.

LLS

Post by **Holt** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:55 pm

Thanx guys and thanx LLS.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:09 pm

Agreed.

Holt that thing is lookin' purdier and purdier every day!
(That's a little Yosemite Sam for "prettier and prettier"... except "purdier" is the more masculine version!)

(And that fedoraiders guy IS rather inspiring, isn't he?)

Post by **Holt** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:33 pm

Thanx guys. yes he IS inspiring. I think I will have to reblock this hat to make it look even more SOC. But I am pretty happy with the result.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:27 pm

the taper is perfect IMO. nothing wrong with it. but after seeing fedoraiders reblocked federation I really, really want to try to find the perfect block or make something myself to give even a more SA SOC look.

but like I said. I am pretty happy with the result...but if the oportunity is there to reblock it, I will do it.

thanx again Michael.

moviematt1989 · Post by **moviematt1989** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:27 am

Holt, that profile pic you have is awesome. If I tried to do something like that, I might kill myself. I hate using this word but it's the only thing I can use, Epic.

Matt

fedoraiders · Post by **fedoraiders** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:49 am

Indiana Holt wrote:Ok. After seeing fedoraiders AWESOME hat. I became so inspired by his pictures so I thought I could show my Fed 4. I am curious to hear what he thinks about it.

I gave my fed 4 a rework around a month ago but it has been in the closet since.

The hat is not reblocked. The brim is trimmed though as the Fed 4 comes with a little too wide brim.

The band around the hat has been given a custom job on it. So has the bow.

It will never be as awesome as the fedoraiders but this is as best as I could get it without reblocking it.

What do you think?

WOW, your hat is very very impressing, when i look the realy good hat picture same as your hat, I look the pictures for several minutes.

For a Federation without reblocking, it's Awesome , I never see the Federation same as your hat. I like your all pictures but i loves the fourth pictures. When we take a pictures, the angles are very important for a good result.

It' very hard to me to explain this. It's important to have a brim for our height size and head size and this hat is perfect for your head size and the brim size too.

I have a question, what your head size because i realy sur that your hat is about 57cm because when we have the big head size, the looks are very different. Me, i have a 59 cm and when i bought my federation, the shape is good but never like you.

You have a realy beautiful hat.

Jason

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:02 pm

Thanx guys. yes he IS inspiring. I think I will have to reblock this hat to make it look even more SOC. But I am pretty happy with the result.

Heck, with the hat already looking that good, I would not reblock it!! You might end up with a less accurate looking SOC fedora.

I have seen some really great looking SOC hats here lately. First a Henry, and now a Federation 4. You guys are getting good!! Fedora

fedoraiders · Post by **fedoraiders** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:10 pm

Listen Fedora, don't reblock this hat...

Jason

Post by **Holt** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:16 pm

WOW.

Thank you fedoraiders for your nice words. My hat is a size 58. my head is is 57.5cm. so I shrunk it abit. I shrunk the sweat band with heat so the hat would thigthen up...

what I think is very important to get that SOC look is that swoop between the rewersed tapered crown and the front brim. that was alot of work....

and thank you so much Fedora! your words means alot to me. alot!!! and I will take your advice...

Thank you guys!

here is a picture I took yesterday with alittle more tweaking....
EDIT

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:36 pm

At Holt's request, I copied the posts over from the Display thread to this one in order to keep all the comments on his hat in one place.

Bartram wrote:Holt,
Yours may be the, pardon the pun, the "Holy Grail" of Fed's!
Wow. I'd puts yours up against any criticism of these hats.

How long have you had it and did you take any special steps to obtain such a dead-on SOC bash.

Basically, what is your secret?!

Again, I'm in awe.

B

Indiana Holt wrote:Thank you very much. for a non reblocked fed this is the best you can get out of it.

its one year old. its the deluxe 4.

first I cut down the sides of the brim as the brim to wide on the feds.

then I took of the band. did custom work on the bow.sew it all back on the hat but really thight. so I got that 'mushrom' effect.

then I work on the bash and front pinch with a little water and steam.

after all of this I really took the hat in the ring and I really showed it who's the boss. and after this again I shaped it more SOC style and then dusted it down.

remember this worked for me.. I tried many, many,many times. I failed over and over again.. until it finally became the best it could be...

Bartram wrote:Say more about trimming the brim.

Which part of the Fed's brim is too wide?

B

Indiana Holt wrote:the sides are to wide. you need to take of a 3 or 4 mm..

cant remember...

Bartram wrote:Cool.
I'm assuming you mean "too wide for the Raiders hat dimensions" right?

B

Indiana Holt wrote:yes of course..

Venky · Post by **Venky** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:15 pm

Dang, both yours and Feroaraidrs just inspire me to bash the @#$% out of mine to hopefully get it that close. Awesome job to you both!

Post by **Holt** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:21 pm

Thanx.

yes. do it. it can take it.

cant wait to see the result. I told you I wanted to see your lid with a more beat look to it..so Im glad your inspired.

Venky · Post by **Venky** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:31 pm

Wow, as I sit here....

pinching...

and pinching....

and pinching....

it is "turning" the hat quite nicely.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:56 pm

Those outside shots are great! It simply does not look like a Fed IV anymore.

RaiderZee · Post by **RaiderZee** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:09 am

Time for the "Holt Fed IV SOC bash tutorial". We are waiting . . .

RaiderZee

Post by **Holt** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:47 am

maby Ill rework my other fed 4 standard into an raiders. and maby Ill make some kind of tutorial...

thanx guys.

Venky · Post by **Venky** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:01 am

Maybe you should, wink wink...nudge nudge.

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:36 pm

Yeah, I'd love to see step-by-step how you did this too. I can't tell the difference between your hat and the one in the film, seriously!

I'd love to get a new hat and do this myself, just as long as it involved no cutting or stitching.....I'm no good at either.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:43 pm

Thank you Harry. But why do you want this? I think you have one of the most awesomest hats in this entire forum. I love your hat!

here you can see it on me.

Edit: Link
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ ... cket-1.jpg

Venky · Post by **Venky** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:00 pm

Dang Holt, You are begining to look like the concept Indy with your build.

hat looks great!

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:06 pm

Impressive. MOST impressive!

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:35 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:Thank you Harry. But why do you want this? I think you have one of the most awesomest hats in this entire forum. I love your hat!

here you can see it on me.

Oh, I don't know about that. There's a lot of cool looking hats on here....like yours.

When I bought my hat from Steve I had him style the hat for me. I never had the "turn" put in. I guess I just want to get a second hat that I can put the turn in and try to bash it myself. I ruined my first hat, the Fed Deluxe 3 , when I bashed it myself and I've always had this "need" to prove to myself that I can bash one on my own. So, that's a lot of the reason why I want another one.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:45 pm

well then send me yours and Ill send you this.

I dont think so right....hehe

but I have to thank you for the not worthy smilies... Its apreciated harry.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:13 am

Ok Guys.here is the final result.

I have been working almost all day on this baby...

Fed 4 deluxe. Not reblocked. only alot of TLC.

what do you think?

Edit

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:35 am

Looking terrific! It doesn't even look like a Fed IV anymore (if you get my meaning).

Venky · Post by **Venky** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:46 am

Wowee! That looks fantastic Holt! Makes me want to work on mine badly!

I will be posting more in my thread in a couple of days.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:05 am

It looks awful. Can I have it?

Post by **Holt** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:12 am

Thanx guys.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:20 am

...pictures and more pictures! Slow down there, Holt, you're gonna' hurt somebody!

Knowing how stiff the brim is on the Fed, you must have really worked with it to get it limber enough for the SoC illusion? Holt the hat majician!

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:45 am

Holt, that looks FANTASTIC!!! When I get a Penman someday, I'll beat on my Fed IV to make it look like that, and keep the Penman as my "fancy wearin' hat".

Local Land Surveyor · Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:48 am

Way to go Holt!

That hat will do nothing but get better. I love my Cairo version hat. It is my favorite hat to wear.

LLS

Venky · Post by **Venky** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:51 pm

Texan Scott wrote:...pictures and more pictures! Slow down there, Holt, you're gonna' hurt somebody!

Knowing how stiff the brim is on the Fed, you must have really worked with it to get it limber enough for the SoC illusion? Holt the hat majician!

Yes, Holt is causing the site to go down over and over with everybody checking out hi SOC FedIV.

It must took a lot to crimp those areas in the front brim and stay that way.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:59 pm

Yep. this hat is so incredible soft right now. I really beat it up. but it can take it.

thanx again...

WhipDude · Post by **WhipDude** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:19 pm

I still can't believe that this is a Fed. I could have never gotten my Fed. Deluxe 3 to look this way.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:24 pm

There are really only two Federation IVs I've seen on here that look like a Raiders hat. The first was Pagey's. That guy is just a monster at creasing hats. The second is this one. Eric, this hat looks like it walked off the set of Raiders and onto your head. Very, very nice work!

Dave

Post by **Holt** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:47 pm

Wow! thank you dave. that is a compliment.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:24 pm

Taking Holt's cue, I got busy and applied formitable bash job to that trusty 'ol Fed, and you simply will not believe the results.

It's amazing what a little sweat equity and TLC will do, when properly motivated!

Yep, its a force to be reconed with!

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:09 pm

You know, TS, I just don't see it. I think you really need to work on this one. Doesn't look like a Raiders hat at all!

Dave

Post by **Holt** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:15 pm

yeah I was thinking the same thing.. what a unacurrate hat... looks like nothing actually....

stupid

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:55 am

...you just gotta feel the vibe, man!

One man's Dorfman is another man's SoC!

Wojtek · Post by **Wojtek** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:45 am

Yours fedIV looks amazing, I must say...

Snapbrim76 · Post by **Snapbrim76** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:45 pm

Holt, your hat is just amazing. I'm really going to work on mine now. I want my brim to look well worn. I'm just not keen on applying Fullers Earth because I like to still wear my fedoras with a suit. Therefore my hat will never be a proper SoC.

Any more SoC pictures anyone?

Post by **Holt** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:36 pm

Thanx again my friend.

here is the latest.

a side by side shot. bear in mind that the angle is 100% perfect. it was pretty hard to get the correct angle. but this was the best picture I could make. and after taking so many shpts the camera needed a recharge.. so i thought waht the heck. its good enuff...

thecoolmiester · Post by **thecoolmiester** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:19 pm

wow very SA hat.
good work

kiltie · Post by **kiltie** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:23 pm

Holt -
Assuming this is a relatively new hat, how did you get the weak brim break there in the front? I've got a couple of Akubras that, while I admitedly don't wear them every day, they're still over a year old and show no signs of relaxing at the break. Of course that's a good thing in a good hat, but it's one of the most important aspects of the SoC and it'd be a good trick to have in the bag.

Oh yeah - GREAT hat, by the way...

Post by **Holt** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:27 pm

this hat is one year old and I never wear it.

its just that I have worked this hat with my hands so much it had to give...and it did... it is now as floppy as a christies.

][ndy · Post by **][ndy** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:47 am

Bartram wrote:Say more about trimming the brim.

Which part of the Fed's brim is too wide?

B

Indiana Holt wrote:the sides are to wide. you need to take of a 3 or 4 mm..

cant remember...

Bartram wrote:Cool.
I'm assuming you mean "too wide for the Raiders hat dimensions" right?

B

Well I just checked my Fed4 (non-deluxe) and the dimensions are almost as stated on Indygear. The size however, is only a 57 and I think for that hat size, the brim ist just a little too wide.

As stated before, it is not about getting the originals hat dimensions, but on getting dimensions, that make the hat look on you most SA.