Raider S wrote:Why placate people at this point? I'm all for talking about the finer points of jackets but I don't believe the questions are honest anymore. If someone has questions about zipper color, how something is sewn, color, whatever, why not take the time to contact the vendor and ask them directly? The answers given here will never be satisfying enough and has been shown many times over.
You've got a point but if you take the high road then most people can see how stuff shakes out. There does seem to be some people who don't actually seem to want answers (or at least answers that go against their preconceived notions), but the majority just want facts.
I seem to remember that most jacket pocket flaps have two pieces of leather with a piece of cloth between them. The first G and B jackets had 3 pieces of leather which made them way too rigid and lifted the jacket up when you sat down. Can someone who is familiar with the first G and B confirm or deny this?
I do think this talk of flaps probably should go into another thread. But Platon, you've just illustrated that the flaps on the Nowak (and even some of the Westeds that are also made that way) are not as stiff as the A2 pocket flaps you've been talking about. That picture shows it well. It has more to do with the leather and whatever is used between it than just the way the flap is finished.
Still I don't know what your point in all this is.
PLATON wrote:
Rask, you mean your Wested flap is like this ?
Yes. That's exactly the way it is in my Wested. And the flaps are as floppy as the ones in the movie. That was, in fact, one of the first things that called my attention when I wore it: they tended to get tucked inside the pocket, specially when I placed my gloves inside.
So, once again my friend: it is the leather.
When discussing the perceived thickness of Chris’s pocket flaps, we should consider the possibility of interference by our old friend Mr. Optical Illusion.
Does one of the two flaps below seem “thinner” than the other?
The contrasting stitches close to the edge tricks the mind into thinking the flap is thicker than it actually is. By digitally removing the obvious stitching, the flaps seem much thinner to me.
Mac wrote:When discussing the perceived thickness of Chris’s pocket flaps, we should consider the possibility of interference by our old friend Mr. Optical Illusion.
Does one of the two flaps below seem “thinner” than the other?
The contrasting stitches close to the edge tricks the mind into thinking the flap is thicker than it actually is. By digitally removing the obvious stitching, the flaps seem much thinner to me.
Tibor, thanks for the confirmation on the pleats.
- Mac
Excellent point, Mac, illustrated well. Something was off on those pics compared to when I was posting last night - I was wearing my jacket at the time and they are HEAPS thinner than those shots.
I know you mean that in jest, Hatch, but tread lightly as similar comments in the thread to which you refer snowballed into a handful of vacations. Best to get the thread back on topic, folks.
But the only reason they tend to blend in in the movie is the same as the reason why the jacket looks almost black most of the time - colour curves.
There's a steep drop off of film's ability to register the differences in tone when they are shades of darkness, particularly when you are shooting at closed-down f-stops as you do in bright desert scenes.
Thus beyond a certain point, the detail simply blends.
