Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Fri May 22, 2009 2:55 pm

PSBIndy wrote:Hey Todd, when are you going to offer the Standard in goat?.....I think that would be awesome.

Yeah, me too!! When you gonna get some goat? I have a great roasted goat recipe if the reason is because you don't know what to do with the goat after you scare its hide off 'em.

Post by **Holt** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:02 pm

I know Peter is busy and all but I still think Peter should have come out and shown the pictures himself instead of having members do it.

I also could show you the pictures of the new jacket many, many months back, but I didnt. I think its up to the maker of the jacket to do so...

its just my opinion, take it for what its worth.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:11 pm

Has this jacket been ready to go for some time now?

Holt's saying months ago he could have had pictures, but didn't to respect the vendor (which makes complete sense) This should be on their site I would think by now, or even some time ago, but it still is not. I hope its as good as everyone thinks its going to be. The funny thing is, is that it is a "new" jacket offering, which you would think should just replace the Rola jacket, since most people now will order the new "hero" jacket from Wested instead.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:19 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:I know Peter is busy and all but I still think Peter should have come out and shown the pictures himself instead of having members do it.

I also could show you the pictures of the new jacket many, many months back, but I didnt. I think its up to the maker of the jacket to do so...

its just my opinion, take it for what its worth.

Holt, do you know if _ has seen this new offering.........his take should be ,er,...... how do I say it......very interesting...

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:23 pm

moses wrote:The pattern is copied from TN - from Chris King's Nowak to be precise. Peter told me so himself a couple of months ago that he'd made a lambskin copy of Chris' jacket and that he was sourcing a new hide for his "hero" jacket.

Maybe I'm just not thinking clearly anymore because of too many diet drinks. If, and I say IF, the above is true then isn't this the copy of the jacket that many (including Peter) questioned its authenticity and outright denounced the leather choice. But now Wested is going to copy this jacket and even offer a shrunken lamb version? Does anyone else find this slightly odd?

And thanks for posting Todd! I own a TN I and one of your customs so I feel I can comment with some authority. While there are some similarities, they are NOT the same jacket.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:28 pm

Hatch, you'll remember he thought the TN leather looked like a embossed leather at first and then changed his mind. Better pictures and then having a sample in hand caused the change in opinion.

In a similar way to Todd's, the Hero will probably incorporate some details (like collar shape) but also omits others... such as the holes in the handwarmers.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:33 pm

crismans wrote:
moses wrote:The pattern is copied from TN - from Chris King's Nowak to be precise. Peter told me so himself a couple of months ago that he'd made a lambskin copy of Chris' jacket and that he was sourcing a new hide for his "hero" jacket.
Maybe I'm just not thinking clearly anymore because of too many diet drinks. If, and I say IF, the above is true then isn't this the copy of the jacket that many (including Peter) questioned its authenticity and outright denounced the leather choice. But now Wested is going to copy this jacket and even offer a shrunken lamb version? Does anyone else find this slightly odd?

And thanks for posting Todd! I own a TN I and one of your customs so I feel I can comment with some authority. While there are some similarities, they are NOT the same jacket.

looks like you're gonna get thrown onto a bus with blackened windows and asked that you not talk about this or you will be charged with treason

btw...i'm thinking as clearly as you are. why hasn't anyone mentioned the price? i bet it's not the same as their standard custom offerings......anyone, anyone....beuller???

Raider Of The Lost Ark · Fri May 22, 2009 3:38 pm

Ok so now I feel bad. Holt has a point. I guess though it's too late to close the stable door. So unless others feel it is wrong to post pictures before Peter i wont. If you do ill keep the pictures and post them immediately after Peter. I don't want to cause offence / trouble. Sorry.

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:45 pm

Raider, I wouldn't feel bad if I were you. This jacket has been rumored for some time and its unveiling as well as, I'm afraid, the debate it will raise is inevitable. I just hope that everyone (and I put myself at the forefront here) keeps it civil.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:50 pm

Raider, I'm curious to know how you had ordered the jacket? Perhaps a call in to Wested, and just questioning the availability of it made it known to be available? At this point, I think that not posting the pics wouldn't go over too well, because who knows when Peter will announce/reveal it, and especially now that it is known of the jacket, many others will put in the order for it. So your pictures, Peter's or someone elses will eventually be posted. But yours would be nice to see

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:52 pm

So... what do you think the limit to this edition number should be?

81? Perhaps...

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:56 pm

Kt Templar wrote:So... what do you think the limit to this edition number should be?

81? Perhaps...

i'd be more interested to see the revised COA stating that the jacket is an exact duplicate of the jacket that was worn on chris king's mannequinn

....all right mods, i'm done.......for now

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:01 pm

i'd be more interested to see the revised COA stating that the jacket is an exact duplicate of the jacket that was worn on chris king's mannequinn

In certain circles that's all it would take to get some people to buy it blindly. I'm not kidding either.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:02 pm

Raider Of The Lost Ark wrote:Ok so now I feel bad. Holt has a point. I guess though it's too late to close the stable door. So unless others feel it is wrong to post pictures before Peter i wont. If you do ill keep the pictures and post them immediately after Peter. I don't want to cause offence / trouble. Sorry.

Why feel bad? If the jacket is now being sold, which it obviously is as you bought one, it can't be a 'secret' and you should be able to wear it in public and post photos of it.

Post by **Holt** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:10 pm

Indiana G wrote:

....all right mods, i'm done.......for now

No! let me tell you my friend, you'r done..

edit: I will get back to your pm later tonight.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:12 pm

I agree Raider it's your jacket ........everyone wants to see it.......

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:13 pm

maybe its better, to wait and see what Peter says.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:15 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:edit: I will get back to your pm later tonight.

cool bro

VP · Post by VP » Fri May 22, 2009 4:41 pm

Hey, hey, hey, hey, I ain't your brother. I ain't your neighbor, your partner, or your friend. I'm your total stranger.

Post by **Holt** » Fri May 22, 2009 4:50 pm

Samuel L. Jackson in Die Hard 3

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:03 pm

Just Post the pics! you'll be promoting his new product!

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:07 pm

crismans wrote:
moses wrote:The pattern is copied from TN - from Chris King's Nowak to be precise. Peter told me so himself a couple of months ago that he'd made a lambskin copy of Chris' jacket and that he was sourcing a new hide for his "hero" jacket.
Maybe I'm just not thinking clearly anymore because of too many diet drinks. If, and I say IF, the above is true then isn't this the copy of the jacket that many (including Peter) questioned its authenticity and outright denounced the leather choice. But now Wested is going to copy this jacket and even offer a shrunken lamb version? Does anyone else find this slightly odd?

its a copy of a copy of a copy.... if that makes any sense

Raider Of The Lost Ark · Fri May 22, 2009 5:08 pm

Pictures are one

I'm sure Peters pictures will do it FAR more justice. It really is VERY nice....

Raider Of The Lost Ark · Fri May 22, 2009 5:10 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:Would've been a novel idea to have the pictures in hand before posting, huh?

I don't think that would really have made any difference do you?

Heyjude7 kept us waiting DAYS before we got to see his jacket

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:11 pm

Wow, thats one nice collar! Looks great! The LC label too is really cool. Nice jacket, looks a little updated from Westeds previous jackets. How is the storm flap lenght? Does it match back length? Again like stated, Peter probably tweaks his patterns to make them better, not completely change it. I do think though the jacket is a little long for a Raiders jacket on you.

Raider Of The Lost Ark · Fri May 22, 2009 5:13 pm

TheExit148 wrote:Wow, thats one nice collar! Looks great! The LC label too is really cool. Nice jacket, looks a little updated from Westeds previous jackets. How is the storm flap lenght? Does it match back length? Again like stated, Peter probably tweaks his patterns to make them better, not completely change it.

Thanks! If I'm correct the front is 1/2 inch longer than the back.

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:14 pm

My bad for the wait Gents

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:15 pm

Raider, I'm beginning to think you don't actually have any pics............

.............corrected , thanks Gert

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:17 pm

Hatch wrote:Raider, I'm beginning to think you don't actually have any pics............

look at the first post

regards Geert

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:21 pm

it looks a little too wide in the shoulders the way it is draping and a bit long in length, but platon will like that

i can't see the texture of the hide in those pics.......what is your take on the hide?

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:23 pm

I must say, from what I can see it's quite an improvement. I think it might be a litle too long for you, but the angle of the pics make it hard to see

Regards, Geert

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:24 pm

Raider,did you request the brass-zipper?

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:25 pm

the yoke panel is still aligned with the top of shoulders but it does look like it has been moved back a touch....from what i can see in the pics of course.

were you looking for an SA fit raiders?

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:27 pm

raider, is this a custom job with wested's "shrunken lamb" equivalent? was this the same price as the rest of their custom jobs......approx 165 GBP or so?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:28 pm

His jacket is in regular goat.

Indiana Dymond · Post by **Indiana Dymond** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:30 pm

Raider thanks for letting this one out of the bag at last

.Its been obvious that Wested were going to do this for months,but no one was going to say so outright.
Funny how I'm now looking forward to the 5 or 6 hour drive from Devon to Kent

ID

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:42 pm

Heyjude7 wrote:
crismans wrote:
moses wrote:The pattern is copied from TN - from Chris King's Nowak to be precise. Peter told me so himself a couple of months ago that he'd made a lambskin copy of Chris' jacket and that he was sourcing a new hide for his "hero" jacket.
Maybe I'm just not thinking clearly anymore because of too many diet drinks. If, and I say IF, the above is true then isn't this the copy of the jacket that many (including Peter) questioned its authenticity and outright denounced the leather choice. But now Wested is going to copy this jacket and even offer a shrunken lamb version? Does anyone else find this slightly odd?
its a copy of a copy of a copy.... if that makes any sense

original - TN#000 - TNChris King - the Hero#0 - Raider's jacket

is that your thought?

Indiana Dymond · Post by **Indiana Dymond** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:48 pm

The circle is now complete!

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:50 pm

The side view doesn't make it look so long, but does look big through the shoulders......what size is it and what are your height etc.....thanks for posting

Raider Of The Lost Ark · Fri May 22, 2009 5:51 pm

Well it came with brass zip, as it should have had otiginaly. However I probably would have asked for it.

I had intended a SA fit, the back was measured down to the pocket flap on the back of my trousers, the front then turned out longer than I'd expected, mainly due to the collar I think.
I'm 5ft 10 but have a long torso. The jacket is a 46.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:59 pm

what is back length and storm flap length....the sleeves look to be right length for you ....

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:04 pm

The body looks a little too long to be SA but the most important thing is are you happy with it? That is the main thing on any jacket. I like a longer jacket myself so I'm not too SA on that front. It's hard to make out any of the other details right off though.

PSBIndy · Post by **PSBIndy** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:06 pm

There's nothing on Wested's website about this jacket......Is this just a custom soft goat jacket with the Leather Concessionaires label?

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:08 pm

Were the pictures posted then removed?

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:15 pm

They are on the first post

As for the jacket, this looks just like a regular Indy jacket. Maybe some minor spec changes and the label is different but I was really looking foreword to a new wested hide, something like Tony's. Dont get me wrong and I dont wanna sound mean or anything but this is really no big news to me unless Peter plans to offer a hide like Tonys. I dont plan to buy another Wested on account of the label. But to each his own!

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:17 pm

Yojimbo Jones wrote:Were the pictures posted then removed?

Nope, they're still up in the first post Yojimbo

Regards, Geert

EDIT: argh, returning son beat me to it

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:20 pm

Indiana Dymond wrote:The circle is now complete!

Circle? more like straight line?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:23 pm

ReturningSon wrote:They are on the first post

As for the jacket, this looks just like a regular Indy jacket. Maybe some minor spec changes and the label is different ....

It doesn't look like any regular from Wested with just minor spec changes. Maybe the hide makes it appear that way to you?

Post by **Holt** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:39 pm

I must say, when seeing the jacket worn it looks almost exactly like an class of 99 wested with better shaped pockets. at least from that distance.

But I think the jacket is to long for you. but thats just my opinion, I like short jackets. if you like it then why care what everybody feels about the length or the fit.

congrats!
Holt

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:43 pm

That's the special new pattern????
Really?
April Fool's day was over a month ago.