I understand that the Magnoli is based on accurate measurements, photos, etc (including tracing of the pockets) from the actual Smithsonian jacket taken by a member here. Does this mean it is (more or less) screen accurate?
Can anyone advise about any details that need tweaking? I imagine the collar isn't quite right but I'm not obsessed with the SA features as long as it's very close and not merely similar to (the way the Wested LC's are).
I've talked with someone here who has studied the LC quite a bit (I'm sure he wouldn't mind me mentioning him but I err on the side of caution). According to him, the Magnoli is very close. I don't have my notes with me but I know the straps need to be moved a little and the back panel extended. I would (and this is my personal preference) round the collar tips some because I like the look of the rounded tips in some of the movie jackets and I think it helps further separate the LC from the CS.
I've discussed these changes with Magnoli and he said all of them could be done without changing the price of the jacket. I've never had a Mags Indy jacket but I do have a Wolverine jacket from him and it is very nice.
CM wrote:I understand that the Magnoli is based on accurate measurements, photos, etc (including tracing of the pockets) from the actual Smithsonian jacket taken by a member here. Does this mean it is (more or less) screen accurate?
Can anyone advise about any details that need tweaking? I imagine the collar isn't quite right but I'm not obsessed with the SA features as long as it's very close and not merely similar to (the way the Wested LC's are).
That same member though sent all of that information to Wested as well.
Holt has said the Wested LC is closer than most people think.
As I wait for my Penman LC, I keep going back and forth between a Wested Novapelle LC and a Magnoli LC predistressed in goat. What do you guys suggest? Holt?
I have a Wested Novapelle LC which I bought last year.....it's a great looking leather. My only knock against it is that it has a great deal of the "flying squirrel effect." (at least my jacket anyway).
RCSignals wrote:
That same member though sent all of that information to Wested as well.
Holt has said the Wested LC is closer than most people think.
I have a Wested LC. Nice jacket, poor comparison to the movie one. Maybe they are better now. But even the recent photos here show really different pockets.
RCSignals wrote:
That same member though sent all of that information to Wested as well.
Holt has said the Wested LC is closer than most people think.
I have a Wested LC. Nice jacket, poor comparison to the movie one. Maybe they are better now. But even the recent photos here show really different pockets.
Im talking about the cut of the jacket. not the specs.
the jackets have a new cut from what they used to be. way different.
So this new cut Wested is a lot more in line with the movie jacket specs?
As for myself, I've been considering a Magnoli LC for a while now. It seems very accurate and fully customizable. Plus, like I said, I've got a Wolverine jacket in the goat and it's a very nice hide.
Mag's temple of doom jacket has the collar stand/collor wrong. The stand should extend to be part of the storm flap. other than that it looks good... His LC looks about right - Maybe a more rounded collar tip would be a bit better though.
coronado3 wrote:Mag's temple of doom jacket has the collar stand/collor wrong. The stand should extend to be part of the storm flap. other than that it looks good... His LC looks about right - Maybe a more rounded collar tip would be a bit better though.
I take the freedom to speak for Magnoli since he isnt around to much due all the work he has to do.
the Temple of doom collar is fixed, he alo said to me that he has tweaked the temple pleat configuration.
the LC jacket collar tips are made after the smithsonian jacket, meaning no pointy tips.
There are at least a couple of other members here who have one (Chewbacca Jones is one maybe?). I've done a search and came across the threads detailing their jackets.
crismans wrote:There are at least a couple of other members here who have one (Chewbacca Jones is one maybe?). I've done a search and came across the threads detailing their jackets.
I did know about Chewies jacket but I believed that was an adventure jacket and not really an Indy one ?
Magnoli really replicates the LC stormflap width, collar and pocket flaps, which are unique to the jacket. I think it looks fantastic, both in Holt's photo and on the Magnoli website.
crismans wrote:There are at least a couple of other members here who have one (Chewbacca Jones is one maybe?). I've done a search and came across the threads detailing their jackets.
I did know about Chewies jacket but I believed that was an adventure jacket and not really an Indy one ?
I have a style A Raiders AND the non-Indy Vintage Adventure Jacket. I had him make my Raiders long, so keep that in mind when you see it below. I look better in a longer jacket.
Also, remember that Magnoli is willing to make any changes you want to what you see on his listings. If you think his ToD is wrong, or you if you want a Raiders collar on an LC, whatever. His jackets are FULLY custom.
Anyone going to the Finger Lakes Summit will get to see this baby in person. It is washed lambskin;
what is the length on that beaut? It looks really good.. Perfect length for a Raiders, and darn that collar has that familiar shape ! thanks for sharing.
Don't want to be rude but why don't go for a Nowak LC?
Price is nearly the same and I'm sure the Nowak is even better build and you can choose from nearly every leather you want.
its about what you want and who you want to do business with.
IMO the mgnoli LC is closer to the original then the TN LC. why? b/c the magnoli is made with the original smithsonian specs as a reference.
the Nowak jackets are great, Im sure.. I dont own one but I will someday... I love every single Nowak jacket I have seen around here.. The price is high yes, but you get what you pay for..which is quality and you dont have to worrie about not getting a SA jacket!
the magnoli is just as great. I do own a couple and I can say that these jacket are built to last forever. you can ask for what leather you want. if he has it in stock then you get it. the leather is top shelf and the stitching is fantastic and the thread is the best thread I have seen on an Indy jacket. the price is about the same as Tony Nowaks. you get just as much quality with magnoli as you get with tony...
so Id say either one you go with you wil get one heckuva product.
orb wrote:Don't want to be rude but why don't go for a Nowak LC?
Price is nearly the same and I'm sure the Nowak is even better build and you can choose from nearly every leather you want.
Regards
orb
Odds are, neither of us have had a chance to closely examine a jacket by each of them, so it's hard to say who makes a better jacket in terms of quality. Judging by what I see of Magnoli's jackets (which I own), the difference could only be minimal anyway.
Price wise, last time I checked, Nowak's LC was significantly more expensive. I'd love one, as I think his looks fantastic, but Magnoli's prices are my outer limit.
Sorry but without the distressing the magnoli makes a much more accurate jacket, I really dig the distressing TN does but the pockets look and placement look a bit off, . It looks very cool nonetheless but its like chewie said, big difference between 495 and 750 excl shipping ( if you go with the cowhide)
We see too few magnoli jackets around here though !!!:P
quality of construction is comparable between the magnoli jackets i own and big tony's. you don't have to worry about the jackets falling apart.....that's where the extra $$$ goes......peace of mind
Indiana G wrote:quality of construction is comparable between the magnoli jackets i own and big tony's. you don't have to worry about the jackets falling apart.....that's where the extra $$$ goes......peace of mind
Indiana G wrote:quality of construction is comparable between the magnoli jackets i own and big tony's. you don't have to worry about the jackets falling apart.....that's where the extra $$$ goes......peace of mind
so Id say either one you go with you wil get one heckuva product.
Absolutely. I have a couple of Nowaks and a Magnoli Wolverine jacket. Both are tremendously well made and fully customizable. You could not go wrong either way
Dutch_jones wrote:Sorry but without the distressing the magnoli makes a much more accurate jacket, I really dig the distressing TN does but the pockets look and placement look a bit off, . It looks very cool nonetheless but its like chewie said, big difference between 495 and 750 excl shipping ( if you go with the cowhide)
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Remember Dutch, when you look at those things you are criticising about orb and Hans LC jackets, they are their own specs, exactly what they asked to be done.
If you want something different, what you ask for you will get from Tony.
A blanket statement that TN makes a less accurate LC is simply false. TN makes the most accurate jacket based on what you ask for.
Dutch_jones wrote:Sorry but without the distressing the magnoli makes a much more accurate jacket, I really dig the distressing TN does but the pockets look and placement look a bit off, . It looks very cool nonetheless but its like chewie said, big difference between 495 and 750 excl shipping ( if you go with the cowhide)
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Remember Dutch, when you look at those things you are criticising about orb and Hans LC jackets, they are their own specs, exactly what they asked to be done.
If you want something different, what you ask for you will get from Tony.
A blanket statement that TN makes a less accurate LC is simply false. TN makes the most accurate jacket based on what you ask for.
Sorry You are correct sir ! I did not think of that ! I agree with you in the end it all comes down to what for you feels screen accurate !:PSorry hard sometimes !
what is the length on that beaut? It looks really good.. Perfect length for a Raiders, and darn that collar has that familiar shape ! thanks for sharing.
The back length measures 29" from the base of the neck. Front wind flap measure 26". I forget exactly how Magnoli takes the measurements, but I think I based mine on a non-Indy Jacket that fit me right.
RCSignals wrote:
A blanket statement that TN makes a less accurate LC is simply false. TN makes the most accurate jacket based on what you ask for.
Exactly. This is a common mistake many people have when it comes to Magnoli, and now Tony. Both will give you what you ask for, so the design errors are usually the buyers. Unless Tony offers a "standard pattern" LC (I don't know). THEN we could start talking about who's base pattern is more SA.
Ive had my Magnoli LC since last October and it an awesome jacket. As many of you had said you get what you pay for. I adjusted my meausremnts slightly to have the jacket be a slimmer fit on me, but other than that the rest is SA as my eyes can tell. The only thing that I would change is the distressing. When I spoke with him, I asked for subtle distressing After receiving it he said that he could distress it further to match more of the movie look but asked me to think about it seeing as how much it would cost me for shipping.
But overall its a great jacket and was pleasure dealing with Magnoli on this.
RCSignals wrote:
A blanket statement that TN makes a less accurate LC is simply false. TN makes the most accurate jacket based on what you ask for.
Exactly. This is a common mistake many people have when it comes to Magnoli, and now Tony. Both will give you what you ask for, so the design errors are usually the buyers. Unless Tony offers a "standard pattern" LC (I don't know). THEN we could start talking about who's base pattern is more SA.
Tony doesn't offer a standard, no alterations allowed pattern of anything, at least at the moment.
Does this mean it is (more or less) screen accurate? 
What do you guys suggest? Holt?
After receiving it he said that he could distress it further to match more of the movie look but asked me to think about it seeing as how much it would cost me for shipping. 
