The most SA wested raiders jacket since the film!

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:04 am

PLATON wrote:You guys laugh about my "long jacket obsession" but you forget that if the jacket was 23 inches, that is consider long.

If appears short on your bodies that's your problem, don't try to convince me that it was short, because 23 inches is not short.

Depends on how tall you are.

If 23 inches is long to you, then you must be short.

I am 6' 1" tall, and a jacket with a length of only 23 inches would just BARELY come to my waist!

Just like sleeve length, you can't make an assumption like that since no two people are exactly
the same size, height, weight, arm length, or have the same body structure. Or just like two people
who might be 6' tall, one can have a short upper body with long arms and long legs, and the other
person might have a long torso, short legs and short arms. They can both be the 6' tall, but one could
weigh 140 pounds and be a bean pole and one could weigh 280 pounds with a huge gut and no chest
and a big (Mod edit: don't skirt the word filter).

They are obviously different body styles, and thus would take totally different length jackets even
though they might both be 6' tall. So, a 23 inch long jacket on one might be fine, while the other one
it could be too short or too long.

Your statement might be true if every single person on this planet was built exactly the same, but
we are not. Thats why a 23 inch long jacket is long to you, and thats fine.

But like you said, if a 23 inch long jacket appears long on your body, it must just be your problem, as
it would be way to short for me and many others on the forum.

Flathead

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:26 am

neutronbomb wrote:I'm man enough to say you're a good looking guy and that specific picture is supercool. No kidding. It's also a great picture of the jacket partially zipped and I think the texture shows excellent.

Trippy how the jacket is so versatile and especially when throwing in the different types of leather. To me the GB Expedition goat looks great with the dockers and button up casual office look. But, if you get a skin with a boat load of texture it would make a killer rock n rolla jacket. Yours even looks good with t-shirt and basketball shorts. And the best part is, since the chances are nobody's ever going to recognize it while wearing it by itself, it also becomes YOUR jacket.

Also in the beanie picture look at the drape and the hang. Did you say that was goat? because it's really draping like Indy's in the ROLA movie. I think you got the fit, look, drape, spot on. If you look in the jacket write-up at the picture of HF standing straight up and staring straight ahead, I think the drape and hang of your jacket is dead on. That's why I asked if you could post it again. It really rocks in that picture.

If you could never get another Indy jacket, I think you'd be ok with that one. Anyway, for me personally I love pictures of jackets that people have made into THEIR own without all the rest of the gear. I'm not saying I'm not into all the gear, but it's great to see unique individual looks too. Thanks for sharing. Super Coolzado!!

Thanx NB.good knowing that are more people out there who are more like me when it comes to say whats on their mind

yep this is westeds new soft goat which is shaved to a thin grade skin and then tanned like lambskin. its almost spot on to lambskin but the strength of steel. you really dont have to worrie about jacket. its my favorite hide from wested. it drapes really good. maby not 100% like lambskin but fairly good. thats why I want this skin in the LC style since it drapes more like the thicker Lambskin you see in LC.

yes I totaly agree about making the jackes into their own without all the rest fo the gear. Im really into gear but not for wearing, only the jacket and the shirt sometimes. the rest of the gear is stored in the closet. Its really cool to have.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:34 am

Yeah, mine is longer

*joking*

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:23 am

And a new moniker is born "Long John" PLATON.......now if you could just come up with an avatar.......

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:06 pm

Thanx.

yeah I guess it looks okay... still there are a few things I would like to change on it..but thats just being picky actually... maby on my next raiders.w'll see...

I'm really in the mood for an LC jacket now and I am working on specs as we speak. Im sending them tomorrow along with the diagrams.

Im really hoping to recreate the LC jacket again....

it will be in the same skin.

and my dear friend...Holt will just do fine.. or Eric... or Godfather

it takes less time to type too right

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:46 pm

neutronbomb wrote:Ok. Holt it is. I just liked the way Mr. Holt sounds.

Are you having Wested do the distressing on your LC? Early in this thread you mentioned a ToD. Are you not going in this direction or did you already receive a ToD?

Yeah, Mr. Holt sounds cool for some reason, or Mr. Holt, sir. Ok, well maybe that's just a little much.

but since Michaelson sports a mustache maybe we can call him Mr. Michaelson, sir. lol. ok, sorry having too much fun entertaining myself, time to turn out the lights and turn in early tonight methinks.

Post by **Holt** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:56 am

okay.

Mr. Holt it is then...

maby Ill ask my Boss to change my nick from Indiana Holt to Mr.Holt.....does have a cool ring to it though

No. I am not gonna distress it. It will be my jacket I take on everyday,working in it aswell, so it will see lots of wear...

I really do want a Temple of doom jacket, but I cant stand wearing nylon, it becomes TOO hot and frayes TOO quick..and since Peter isnt gonna change the lining in these jackets to a lovely breathy and stronger cotton silesia like the raiders have I wont get one...

I dont see the problem in changing the lining in the jackets if thats what the costumer prefers... anyways...his loss...

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:08 am

Indiana Holt wrote:I dont see the problem in changing the lining in the jackets if thats what the costumer prefers... anyways...his loss...

I was just having that discussion with someone the other day. Makes no sense whatsoever.. a CUSTOM jacket should be that.. custom. If you wanted a hot pink liner.. that's what you should get.

BUT

Oh well.

Randy

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:43 pm

I could see not changing the specs so as to not get in the same situation as with the Raiders jackets (fan input changing the pattern) but since the big problem with this jacket seems to be lining, you would think changing that wouldn't be a problem.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:58 pm

The lining is not durable at all, so anyone who actually wears the jacket is going to have to get a new lining soon after anyway.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:24 am

Mr Holt has removed the photos where he was wearing the jacket zipped up.
I guess it didn't look right to him...

Maybe the long collar isn't that practical after all?

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:28 pm

ah man you'r so annoying sometimes it cracks me up!

you'r WAY of base..keep on guessing my friend...

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:31 pm

I saw the pictures and it looked great zipped up.

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:20 pm

here.

you be the judge if it loks good on me or not.

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TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:26 pm

That looks really good zipped up!

It doesn't look oversized at all. Hopefully mine turns out that good!

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:27 pm

Man ,Holt enough about the jacket......... where can I get a pair of those 'screen acurate' pants

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:37 pm

Hatch wrote:Man ,Holt enough about the jacket......... where can I get a pair of those 'screen acurate' pants

hey those are shorts!

and dont you just love'em ?

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:41 pm

With those cargo pockets, looks like you're in the' Figi Islands Army Special Forces'

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:36 pm

[quote="Indiana Holt"]here.

you be the judge if it loks good on me or not.

Those pants look wild and they make the jacket look too short

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:44 pm

This picture doesn't look right and I'm not talking about the pants ... Ah! It's flipped, right?

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:47 pm

the jacket isnt to short and the shorts look wild.

yes the picture is flipped. ( mirror shot)

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:47 pm

Holt what is the shoulder measurement of this jacket. Neck to shoulder end?

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:50 pm

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:09 am

Agree, the jacket doesn't look short.
Look the right length.

And the collar looks OK. Doesn't look too oversized.
Congrats

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Mon May 04, 2009 5:58 pm

PLATON wrote:Agree, the jacket doesn't look short.
Look the right length.

............

Yes that's what this

was for......

But this is something from Platon Holt, your jacket not looking short

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:17 pm

Ahhh,

10 pages later and now I must comment.

Holt, please release your specs. I know you keep saying that the jacket is made for your body, that the specs are really strange, and that you don't want anyone to be disappointed if they copy the specs.....but I have to give you a story.

As many of you may know, I was once a special make-up FX artist. Many times I was asked to give demonstrations of face life casting to groups of make-up, and high school students. At first I was hesitant because it can be quite a dangerous thing to attempt if you don't know what you're doing. After a while however I realized that many of the people who wanted to see the demo, really didn't have any intention of ever trying to replicate it, they simply found it fascinating.

The people who did want to try this were also the type that understood that it takes a lot research to do it right. They understood that there are a lot of little tricks and secrets that can be the difference between a good cast, and a bad one. Eventually I realized that it wasn't my responsibility to be responsible for everyone else, and I had to let people make their own mistakes.

As someone who will be walking into Wested in a few weeks I would greatly appreciate it if you would be so kind as to post your specs so that I might borrow from them. I don't have your body type and because of that asking for the "Holt Special" would be just as detrimental to a well fitting jacket as asking for the "Harrison Ford measurements".

What I would like is a good starting point. I already have made some of my own decisions about what I would like in a jacket, but it would be great to see what you have come up with.

There is a part in a movie I once watched where a father, clutching his sons hand as he dangles over a cliff, reaching desperately for something of great value says, in a calm voice, "let it go..."

Holt....let it go!

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:36 pm

Good luck Crazylegs. You may have to make a trip to Norway.

Andymac84 · Post by **Andymac84** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:31 am

Eric, does your Jacket have a sizing declaration beneath the Wested patch under the collar in the neck section. Mine have the same... I mean, they're tailormade, but also have sizings in it. I was always wondering about that..

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:47 pm

Yeah, even the custom ones have sizing labels inside (usually!).

They grab the closest one so it is a nominal size.

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:16 pm

I can't believe some people don't like the smell of goatskin. I'd get goatskin JUST for the smell.

Anyway did he ever say a price on this?

Post by **Holt** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:18 pm

well, to each his own. I'd rather smell the neck of a beautifull lady

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:19 pm

and about the price? don't be coy, why would you withhold that? seems odd.. people pay $1000 for other jackets..

Post by **Holt** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:32 pm

so?

the price was a normal wested price.

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:34 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:so?

the price was a normal wested price.

so less than $300 US for all those mods?
thats pretty good

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:41 pm

There seems to be some variation in this. I know of others, besides Holt, who haven't been charged any extra for modifications but I have.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:34 am

So, I just realized that this jacket is 2 years old now. I have been wearing it pretty much all the time since I got it. its my go to jacket.

what can I say about the leather? its the best goatskin I have ever had. you can tell in the picture how much Lamblike it is. its incredible soft and drapy.

I was lucky to have my jacket made out of this batch of leather cuz today it is lighter in color. mine is a mid-dark brown. they only offer authentic and dark brown soft goat. but not the mid-dark color anymore (Peter told me this) which is very nice and very SA.

it has many disstress marks on it, you can't tell by looking at this photo but its there. I'll take some pictures of me wearing it soon.

the stithcing is the best I have on any wested jacket. its top shelf.

click link.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ ... atholt.jpg

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:03 pm

Holt, Hands down that is the best Wested I have EVER seen! If every Wested was like yours I think that we would porbably all have one. Nice pocket flaps. I think I have become obsessed with the shape of pocket flaps lately...

How about some more pics of this wonderful jacket. They should be archives so we can drool, daydream and fight over the their details...

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:13 pm

That is not only the best Wested I've seen, but one of the best JACKETS I've seen! It is very nice. Shame Wested can't reliably churn out work of this caliber...

Travis

Post by **Holt** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:53 pm

Thanks.

yes, I know what you mean Travis. its one of the best jackets I have seen to. I own many westeds. I mean many. and this one hands down is by far the best jacket I have from them. not only leather and attention to my specs but my god is it constructed like a top drawer jacket. there is one tear in the stitching which is 100% my fault. I played with something sharp and it came across the sewing thread and 4 stitchtes got cut. but, that was an EASY fix. othr then that all of the stiching is deeply sewn in the leather. its really protected.

I have a close up picture of the pocket and by that picture you really can tell how good its constructed.

there is only ONE other jacket that I know of that has the ''Holt'' specs and in horsehide. dont know about how good the stiching and construction are but the specs looks to be there. Whipdude has it and he wants to sell it. ???? I wouldn't. it was made shortly after mine. its a 42 and if you want a jacket looking almost like mine, pick it up. if it was a 44 I would pick it up myself.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:56 pm

compared.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:31 pm

That really is a beauty Holt. I know it's been said before, but I wish Wested would make this their standard.

Weston

Post by **Holt** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:48 pm

yeah, I know... I ordered another jacket in the Holt specs a year later (dark lambskin) and it came out super awesome. it was IT. unfortunatley it came out to BIG and had to send it back. the replacement came out half as good.

I busted that jacket by accident and thats why I try to get in contact with them. I need it fixed. or, if it unfixable I will get another to replace it. but I really want it to be made in the ''Holt'' specs.

here is a close up of the pockets top corner reinforcements. the reinforcements you see in the picture is made like this on every stress point I can find on the jacket. Like I said, this jacket is made different then other wested jackets I have. its made for USE. and that I like and THAT should be the standard on every jacket.

click link
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ ... corner.jpg

Post by **Holt** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:59 pm

and just for the record, that dark lambskin looked even better then this jacket if that possible. it really did. it just came out to big in the back and to WAY to short.

Rudolf · Post by **Rudolf** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:41 am

Indiana Holt wrote:Thanks.

yes, I know what you mean Travis. its one of the best jackets I have seen to. I own many westeds. I mean many. and this one hands down is by far the best jacket I have from them. not only leather and attention to my specs but my god is it constructed like a top drawer jacket. there is one tear in the stitching which is 100% my fault. I played with something sharp and it came across the sewing thread and 4 stitchtes got cut. but, that was an EASY fix. othr then that all of the stiching is deeply sewn in the leather. its really protected.

I have a close up picture of the pocket and by that picture you really can tell how good its constructed.

there is only ONE other jacket that I know of that has the ''Holt'' specs and in horsehide. dont know about how good the stiching and construction are but the specs looks to be there. Whipdude has it and he wants to sell it. ???? I wouldn't. it was made shortly after mine. its a 42 and if you want a jacket looking almost like mine, pick it up. if it was a 44 I would pick it up myself.

Hmm? it looks exactly like my two jackets , one too short for me.The short is 24.5 in the back they also has reinforced stitching everywhere and the Holt collar.My absolute favorite jacket. The only problem is that I would like a larger size for the winter so that I can fit a thick sweater underneath. But I dare not order another one from wested. If I knew that all the jackets came out the same I would make it

Congratulations to the two years and a wonderful jacket![/b]

Post by **Holt** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:28 am

Thanks my fellow viking.

we can not exactly know for sure if they used the Holt specs or not on your jacket because your was made so long after mine. (did you request the ''Holt'') I know whipdude has a jacket made shortly after mine and it looks pretty darn good.

I know your dark brown goat looks very very good but as you say it has slim arms. mine doesnt, it has wider baggier upper arms and that is a part of a ''Holt'' spec. Yours really looks to be having the longer collar which is an VERY important feature of getting the ''look''

one thing, I know I almost can say for sure that no other jacket has because Pete told me on the phone it was PAIN getting right and I dont think he would do it again (but they should make it a standard because thats what we want!!!

) I'm talking about the ''off the shoulder'' effect the original jacket has. the half shoulder seams ''wants'' to slip of your shoulders and down your back. The jacket just relaxes on the back of your shoudlers. I LOVE it.

but all in all I love your jacket. it is one of the best I have seen. yours and whipdude's. but I like your dark brown soft goat more. both jackets are specced awesome but yours has more correct hide for this jacket. I would love to see your jacket but in better pictures. color

I'm thinking of getting the replacement jacket (for the one I ripped the shoulder off) in either dark brown thick lambskin or dark brown soft goat.

tomek9210 · Post by **tomek9210** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:45 pm

My HH jacket was also made in November 2008, I think it looks similiar, however I didn't ask them to make it in 'Holt' specs. It also has baggier sleeves than my other one, WG from November 2009.
Holt, how many inches does the jacket have in chest? How much does it taper toward the bottom?

Post by **Holt** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:01 pm

allright, here we go.

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:09 pm

Very impressive.

Noah · Post by **Noah** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:14 pm

Looks very good!

Post by **Holt** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:44 pm

I just noticed something really weird when looking at it some more. the sleeve wrinkles are almost identical to one another..