Coyle's "Outdoorsman's" Boots

indyclone · Post by **indyclone** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:44 pm

i'm planning on buying a pair of toods boots and i went and printed out that shoe diagram to see what fit i needed and it was ( i don't know if my printer printed the wrong page or what) but my foot looked like i needed a 12 but in normal shoes i wear a 10.5 should i just order a 11 and hope that it fits ?

Dragonlady Jones · Post by **Dragonlady Jones** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:13 pm

Sorry to bother you guys, but I've always gotten good help 'round here. I normally wear 9.5 in one foot and a 9.75

on the other. What size in Todd's boots? Thanks in advance!

Illinois James · Post by **Illinois James** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:26 pm

Those outlines are only going to be accurate if you are absolutely sure they're printed to scale. I measured both feet with a shoe store Brannock device, and ordered that size. They fit fine. I believe Todd says if you are a half size, order the next whole size smaller. If you're a whole size, order that size. Or just contact Todd and he'll advise.

indyclone · Post by **indyclone** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:04 pm

ok i will i just want the shoes to be roomy enough for my feet and that if i order a 11 it should be ok

suburbancomics · Post by **suburbancomics** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:04 am

I just bought my Coyle's boots!!!!! I am really excited, I will post pictures when they get here!!!!

Vaderbreath · Post by **Vaderbreath** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:47 am

I just got a used pair from the bazaar, and I absolutely love them. I've been wearing Rockport Farnum's everyday for a long time and it's taken me a bit to get used to how much heavier Todd's are. They are really comfy, though!

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:33 am

I'm following the discussion with interest. I can't believe how hard some of you guys are on shoes! I guess I'm very easy on shoes - I haven't worn a pair out since I was in 6th grade.

Please print out the templates to verify your shoe size. Most of the time, asking other people what size shoes you should buy doesn't really work.

Printing the templates: Be sure you print them on legal sized paper (8 1/2" x 14"). If they don't have that size paper where you live and you must print on 8 1/2" x 11" paper, be sure your printer is not set to "SCALE TO FIT", or it will just reduce the size. Choose to print FULL SIZE, and (hopefully) your printer will split the picture over two pages that you can piece together.

HJoe · Post by **HJoe** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:57 am

Puppetboy,

I probably wear my shoes out fast from pacing back and forth too much while on the cell phone.

(my kids make fun of me and try to get in my way).
I guess it depends on the surface you are walking on, I'm in and out of my truck and on pavement quite a lot.
Also, they are so comfortable that when I put them on in the mornings, I don't take them off until I go to bed.
I used to take my shoes off when relaxing in the evenings, but with these I don't have to.

Regards,

Hjoe

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:00 pm

As a museum curator I can't say that these boots receive too much punishment. I am on my feet a lot and I do wear the boots daily. The soles should, I think, have lasted more than four days.
Here is what I've been told by my cobbler regarding the construction of these boots: The McKay stitch is a fake, there only for looks and not holding the layers of the sole to the boot body. The sole and heal are held on by one staple, a staple commonly used to hold ladies high heal shoes together. The rubber used in the construction of the sole and heal are inferior materials as is the glue used to adhere them together. The lace hooks are too weak and bend easily.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:24 pm

Alphared, don't hold back any on the description of the boot quality.

The cobbler I went to wasn't much, but he claimed the mcKay was indeed real. Though, I don't hold much stock in what he said.

Mine, apart from the seperation which could have lasted much longer as is, my boots are holding up nicely. I'm sorry to hear of all the trouble folks are having with them. [And the headache it's created for Todd.]

Maybe they are costuming boots, but I wear mine frequently [As in 5-6 days a week] and find them to be comfortable. Comfort and durability are my two main factors when it comes to footwear. If I have to trade SOME durability to have comfort, I'll do so.

Randy

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:33 pm

Randy,
Well those aren't alphared6's words, they're from the cobbler

. I just took mine to a cobbler to have sole protectors put on. Too bad, some of these issues couldn't be fixed for a mere $20-25 added to the price of the boots. I'd pay $100 for these if some or all of these issues could be corrected.

IndianaBogart · Post by **IndianaBogart** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:02 pm

JC1972 wrote:Randy,
Well those aren't alphared6's words, they're from the cobbler . I just took mine to a cobbler to have sole protectors put on. Too bad, some of these issues couldn't be fixed for a mere $20-25 added to the price of the boots. I'd pay $100 for these if some or all of these issues could be corrected.

I agree. While I've not really had any problems with my boots (from the first run, worn almost daily since Christmas) I've noticed that the heel has worn fairly quickly and one of the lace hooks might pull out at some point. But I would definitely pay $100 or even $125 to have these issues fixed and have a little more peace of mind about the boots.

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:10 pm

Randy:
I saw the fake McKay stitch myself. The first problem I experienced was the front of the sole detaching. The "McKay stitch" was sewn only through the first or bottom layer. Now, perhaps my boots were an anomaly ... but I doubt it.

As for my boots today ... they have been four time to my cobbler. Three of those visits to repair the soles. Today the heals are worn to the point of requiring replacement. I will take my boots in next week and have my cobbler replace the entire sole and heal with leather and vibram. According to my cobbler the boot body is well made, the leather is a "decent" quality, and the sole replacement will be worth the expense.

And yes ... these boots were quite comfortable right out of the box.

Mike

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:26 pm

Mine are fake, too. I was just repeating what the "cobbler" I took mine to said. [I use the word cobbler VERY loosely.] I should have cleared that up on my first post.

4 trips! WOW

You have every right to complain. and I wasn't giving you a hard time before. I know these aren't Aldens by any stretch, but I do expect quality for my money. I'll wear mine while they last. Or take them elsewhere and get a real heel/sole job before they go.

Randy

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:51 pm

Randy:

In no way did I interpret your comments as giving me a "hard time." I have survived shot and shell, flame and death. It takes a lot to induce a "hard time" on me!

Of course we all know these are not Alden's. The price of a car payment for a pair of boots strikes me as above and beyond ridiculous! However, around here $85.00 will buy you a real good pair of work boots that will last you years before they need work. I expected more for the price.

However, after I have the new sole and heal applied I'll still have under $200.00 in them. As long as the body of the boot last me a couple of years I'll be happy.

I would suggest to anyone who buys these boots new ... right after you try them on for fit rush them to your cobbler and have the complete sole and heal replaced.

Mike

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:39 pm

Gotcha. I just wanted to be clear, the internet's not good at showing intentions.

Yeah, I'm with you on shelling out the money for Aldens.

Randy

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:53 pm

Mine are still holding up great...the smell has cleared up, and after a coat of pecards, 24 hours later they had gone a slight shade darker.

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:12 am

Darker?
Try this ... pour three 8 oz glasses of single malt scotch ... dip your finger into the scotch and gently apply a thin coat to all the leather you wished darkened ... drink the remainder of the scotch.

When you wake up the boots will be dry.

Mike

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:43 am

Wouldn't the alcohol in the scotch act similarly to rubbing alcohol and remove some of the dye?

Randy

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:54 am

It was a joke ...

To quote Mr. Spok: "Humor, a difficult concept."

Treadwell · Post by **Treadwell** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:13 pm

[geek]
Saavik said that.

[/geek]

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:38 pm

I'm pretty sure Treadwell's right on that one.

And I thought it was part joke part seriousness.

ha

Randy

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:41 pm

I don't want to ADD to the complaining about the boots, but......

I just happened to be reading some of the posts on here and decided to double check my boots and noticed the sole on my right boot is starting to split and come unglued. Now here's the really shocking and sad part......Other than trying them on when I first got them I haven't worn them once since then. I basically bought them to wear with my gear and I haven't worn my gear in months. I just haven't had time. So the boots have just been sitting here and they're coming apart on their own.

So, what the heck should I do? Send them back? Take them to a local cobbler to see how much it will cost to have the entire bottom of the boots replaced?

I honestly thought the trouble people were having was just random. Right now I don't have a lot of money to go blowing on having the boots "fixed"........I love the boots though. I loved how comfortable they were when I tried them on. I'd hate to just give that up....

I can't believe this....

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:05 pm

Yeah ... little hard to swallow ain't it? But, as we've all been saying, it's tons less than a pair of Alden's. Were I you I'd take 'em to a cobbler. Even if you had to spend another $80.00 to replace the sole & heal you're still way under half what it'd cost for a pair of Alden's!

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:29 pm

Well, here are some shots of the boot. At the moment it seems to be happening to just the right one. I checked the left boot and it seems to be fine for now. I'm still shocked this happened and they weren't even worn at all.

Just to show these haven't been worn...

I don't know yet what course I'm going to take with them but I know I'm not going to pay to have them repaired out of my own pocket.

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:36 pm

Pitfall Harry,
Maybe this thread from Todd will help, good luck!

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=39168

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:57 am

Thanks JC....

I read that thread a while back. Of course I didn't pay much attention since mine seemed to be fine.

I guess I'm just trying to decide what the best route to take with the boots is. Should I just have them re-glue both soles or just completely redo the soles and heals. IF I do that then how much is the avarage cost of something like that?

I dunno....IF I just have them re-glued I know in the back of my mind I'm going to be thinking it could happen again and I certainly don't want to have to worry about that while I'm wearing them.

Reading Alphared's posts it seems to me like he's been back and forth to the cobbler with his boots. I certainly don't have the time or money right now IF that's the same situation I'm going to face IF I keep them. I want this to be a one time deal........I want to know they're fixed and will last me the amount of time they were originally intended to.

Marv · Post by **Marv** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:27 am

I've had mine (2nd run) for a few months now and apart from the heels wearing down and definately need replacing plus the terrible chemical smell which I can't seem to get rid of then boots have been fine.
It seems that longer I wear the boots and the leather becomes warm the smell seems to get stronger and very noticable also looks as though I am going to have a problem having the heels replaced due to their curved design so my local shoe repair store can't do it.

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:40 am

Pitfall Harry wrote:Thanks JC....

I read that thread a while back. Of course I didn't pay much attention since mine seemed to be fine.

I guess I'm just trying to decide what the best route to take with the boots is. Should I just have them re-glue both soles or just completely redo the soles and heals. IF I do that then how much is the avarage cost of something like that?

I dunno....IF I just have them re-glued I know in the back of my mind I'm going to be thinking it could happen again and I certainly don't want to have to worry about that while I'm wearing them.

Reading Alphared's posts it seems to me like he's been back and forth to the cobbler with his boots. I certainly don't have the time or money right now IF that's the same situation I'm going to face IF I keep them. I want this to be a one time deal........I want to know they're fixed and will last me the amount of time they were originally intended to.

Ask your local cobbler how much it is for both services, and go back to Todd and see what he will cover. Also if they are glued, I'm sure the cobbler has something (some kind of commercial glue I imagine) that will stick where alphared6's cobbler said an inferior glue was used.

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:32 pm

Pitfall,

I sympathize with your dillemma. I would recommend taking them into a shoe repair shop and ask them their opinion. They can certainly restore the soles and I'd have them re-glue the heels at the same time. I will cover the cost, which is generally minimal. The repair should be permanent, and the cobbler can assure you of that. After all, they re-glue and replace soles for a living.

After reading this thread most would conclude that these shoes will all fall apart. Just for some perspective, I ran the numbers last night. We've had problems reported on only 5.5% of the boots we've sold. Most of that 5.5%, it seems, are on this thread. 94.5% of the boots we've sold so far are just fine.

As for the replacing worn-out orthopedic heels: (which, as far as I can tell, is the only thing that makes these shoes "orthopedic".) Replacements will have to be cut from sheet heel material, which many shoe repair shops won't have on hand. They buy pre-cut, standard heels and stock them in various sizes. Any repair shop can order a small sheet of heel rubber to replace the heels.

PH, whatever you want to do with the shoes is fine with me. For peace of mind, I would recommend having them repaired by a guy you can see and talk to. If you exchange them, you'll probably worry that you got another pair with bad glue just waiting to fly apart on you. I'll take care of the bill to have them restored to new condition.

FYI, I forward ALL photos and complaints straight to the manufacturer, and we take note of all comments. We're always looking to improve our products. As far as what happened to that 5.5% of shoes with glue problems - the factory is naturally very concerned that this does not happen again with our shoes or any others they manufacture.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:43 pm

That's a very low number Todd. That being said, mine was one of the 5.5%. BUT I was intentionally hard on them to see how they hold up.. so I was asking for trouble.

They are also some of the best fitting shoes I've owned in quite some time. Plenty of support around the ankle. In the past few years, I've all but moved away from wearing sneakers. I only wear them for walking/jogging, the rest of the time, I'm in boots.

Randy

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:07 pm

Puppetboy wrote:Pitfall,

I sympathize with your dillemma. I would recommend taking them into a shoe repair shop and ask them their opinion. They can certainly restore the soles and I'd have them re-glue the heels at the same time. I will cover the cost, which is generally minimal. The repair should be permanent, and the cobbler can assure you of that. After all, they re-glue and replace soles for a living.

After reading this thread most would conclude that these shoes will all fall apart. Just for some perspective, I ran the numbers last night. We've had problems reported on only 5.5% of the boots we've sold. Most of that 5.5%, it seems, are on this thread. 94.5% of the boots we've sold so far are just fine.

As for the replacing worn-out orthopedic heels: (which, as far as I can tell, is the only thing that makes these shoes "orthopedic".) Replacements will have to be cut from sheet heel material, which many shoe repair shops won't have on hand. They buy pre-cut, standard heels and stock them in various sizes. Any repair shop can order a small sheet of heel rubber to replace the heels.

PH, whatever you want to do with the shoes is fine with me. For peace of mind, I would recommend having them repaired by a guy you can see and talk to. If you exchange them, you'll probably worry that you got another pair with bad glue just waiting to fly apart on you. I'll take care of the bill to have them restored to new condition.

FYI, I forward ALL photos and complaints straight to the manufacturer, and we take note of all comments. We're always looking to improve our products. As far as what happened to that 5.5% of shoes with glue problems - the factory is naturally very concerned that this does not happen again with our shoes or any others they manufacture.

Thank you, Todd.

I *hope* it wasn't implied in any of my previous posts that I was blaming you for the problem directly or anything like that. I was aware of the problems people were having with the boots but I assumed that it was due to them being worn everywhere all the time or something.....As you can imagine I was a bit shocked when I picked my boots up to double check them and noticed the same thing was happening to mine and they hadn't even been worn yet.

Heck, in some ways your just as much a "victim" of this as we are. It's a quality control problem going on at the factory where these are made.

I really hope this particular problem can be "resolved" without it causing the price of the boots to go up. I dunno.....It could be that they're cutting some corners in order to keep the cost down of manufacturing these for you.

Regardless of this happening to me I still stand by the boots. I would STILL recommend these. For the little amount of time I did have them on my feet they were VERY comforable. It was almost like wearing a pair of soft slippers.

I definitely want to keep them. I just want to have them fixed and have the "peace of mind" that I won't have any other problems so I can just wear them and enjoy them the way you intended.

So, I'll try to get over to one of the local cobblers here within the next few days and see what they say. I've never been to one before in my life. I just don't want to be charged an "arm and a leg" and them overcharging both you and I.

I'll PM you here or send you a message threw your site, whichever is easier , when I find out the total cost.

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:09 pm

I just ordered a pair this morning! Upon recieving them and making sure the sizing is correct (even if they are in the 94.5% of good shoes) I intend to take them to my local Cobbler, and have the heel tacked on with a more robust nail, have the real McCoy MacKay stitches put in, and put rubber sole savers on them. Does this seem like a reasonable plan to all you guys out there.

Even doing all of this we're talking about $80 shipped to me and then around $50-60 work done on them at the cobbler. So a grand total of $140 max. So lets compare $300 aldens

, $140 pimped out Todd's $\:D/$ . Yep...I'm good with it! I own lots of Todd's stuff and I haven't been let down yet! Yall let me know if you think my plan sounds about right.

Regards

Travis

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:21 pm

Raider S wrote:Todd's boots...

I was sitting here with my Aldens up on my desk, and looking at this picture, and I see a HUGE difference. When I pull my laces tight, the eyes on either side are only an inch apart. In the photo above, the eyes seem to be 2 to 3 inches apart.

Can anyone else confirm that the Todd's boots don't come toether over the tongue the same way the Aldens do?

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:52 pm

I *hope* it wasn't implied in any of my previous posts that I was blaming you for the problem directly or anything like that. I was aware of the problems people were having with the boots but I assumed that it was due to them being worn everywhere all the time or something.....As you can imagine I was a bit shocked when I picked my boots up to double check them and noticed the same thing was happening to mine and they hadn't even been worn yet.

Heck, in some ways your just as much a "victim" of this as we are. It's a quality control problem going on at the factory where these are made.

I really hope this particular problem can be "resolved" without it causing the price of the boots to go up. I dunno.....It could be that they're cutting some corners in order to keep the cost down of manufacturing these for you.

I appreciate the understanding. The manufacturer is going to credit us the cost of the repairs we reimburse to our customers (to restore them to new condition) but I'm afraid my reputation takes a big hit when things like this happen. Ultimately, with the customer, the buck does stop here. You can't put a price on your reputation. Fortunately, those of you who have gotten the de-laminating shoes have been very understanding, and I want to thank you all for that. Getting good quality Alden look-alikes made for an affordable price is a VERY tough nut to crack, and I appreciate that you all understand that.

Todd

IndianaBogart · Post by **IndianaBogart** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:23 pm

maboot38 wrote:
Raider S wrote:Todd's boots...

I was sitting here with my Aldens up on my desk, and looking at this picture, and I see a HUGE difference. When I pull my laces tight, the eyes on either side are only an inch apart. In the photo above, the eyes seem to be 2 to 3 inches apart.

Can anyone else confirm that the Todd's boots don't come toether over the tongue the same way the Aldens do?

maboot,
I have a pair of Todds boots and when I tie them they get tight just like Aldens. I dunno what's going on with the boots in that pic.

-Bogart

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:25 pm

looks like too wide of feet in too narrow of shoes to me. Mine look nothing like that when tightened and tied.

Randy

Dragonlady Jones · Post by **Dragonlady Jones** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:58 pm

Well, I'm pretty new around here, but I feel the need to share...and geek off. I pulled the trigger on a pair of Coyle's today. Pretty psyched. I was debating which way to go for a while (STS)...reading both the pro and con reviews of Todd's boots and the Aldens. It seems like the problems people encounter w/ Todd's are fairly easy to remedy at the local cobbler and the body of the shoe holds up pretty well. As for the Aldens, while I can afford them, the price is hard to justify for a pair of boots that I may or may not like. We'll see. Who knows, maybe I'll spring for the Aldens in a few months...I'm sure my wife has spent a helluva lot more on shoes before!

Other than a Magnoli bag strap I bought for an old canvas bag, this is my first real piece of Indy gear. I have to admit, I've always been a ROLA, TOD, LC fan (mixed emotions on KOTCS), but it was stumbling onto COW that got me hooked. Now I'm looking at jackets, hats, and a new gun...Dang, this is going to be expensive.

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:05 pm

Welcome ---- and you are sooooo right --- It's an expensiv and fun hobby all rolled together.

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:01 pm

theinterchange wrote:looks like too wide of feet in too narrow of shoes to me. Mine look nothing like that when tightened and tied.

Randy

OK, it's resolved. RaiderS has freakishly wide feet.

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:41 pm

Spoo wrote:Well, I'm pretty new around here, but I feel the need to share...and geek off. I pulled the trigger on a pair of Coyle's today. Pretty psyched. I was debating which way to go for a while (STS)...reading both the pro and con reviews of Todd's boots and the Aldens. It seems like the problems people encounter w/ Todd's are fairly easy to remedy at the local cobbler and the body of the shoe holds up pretty well. As for the Aldens, while I can afford them, the price is hard to justify for a pair of boots that I may or may not like. We'll see. Who knows, maybe I'll spring for the Aldens in a few months...I'm sure my wife has spent a helluva lot more on shoes before!

Other than a Magnoli bag strap I bought for an old canvas bag, this is my first real piece of Indy gear. I have to admit, I've always been a ROLA, TOD, LC fan (mixed emotions on KOTCS), but it was stumbling onto COW that got me hooked. Now I'm looking at jackets, hats, and a new gun...Dang, this is going to be expensive.

You don't need a gun. Where would you bring it? Unless you have it for display purposes only, then you can get a cheap airsoft look-alike. Its the props that are expensive.

HJoe · Post by **HJoe** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:14 am

I got my boots back from the cobbler today, the new leather soles look great!

And the best part is it only cost $42.00 even! $\:D/$ Can you believe that!

The cobbler removed the first layer of rubber and glued a 1/8th inch thick Eagle Flex leather sole to the entire bottom, then he reattached the heal replacing the worn top layer with a Sole Tech curved rubber heal. He left the fake stitching on top and beveled the leather on the bottom at the edges so the new sole wouldn't look any thicker than the original. It doesn't have the stitching on the bottom anymore but no one can see that anyway. He also removed the Tack, filled the square hole, nailed the heal and stretched one shoe.

I asked about the quality of the original sole and he said they were using low grade rubber and that it seamed a shame considering the quality of the uppers. I asked if the other rubber layers would be likely to break down prematurely and should I replace the entire bottom, he said that wasn't likely now that the leather sole was there.

Todd, you might want to see if the factory can provide a better rubber material, I wouldn't mind paying a little more for it. I believe you are selling a good shoe and with some work it could be a great shoe, I plan on wearing mine fore a long time.

I'll probably order another pair this fall and get them a little larger so I can wear thicker socks for the cold weather, I may also put rubber sole protectors on them for better traction in winter.

I'm still extremely happy with the comfort and fit.

Thanks for your hard work Todd!

HJoe

Marv · Post by **Marv** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:04 am

the smell, what about the terrible chemical smell.......is anybody else suffering with this and any hints on how to get rid of it.

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:52 am

My boots smelled as most new leather boots do. Frankly they smelled worse when I got them back from the cobbler after re-gluing. But all odors have now dissipated entirely. No, not because they were overpowered by the odor of my huge feet!

Not to diminish the complaint of those of you who's boots are malodorous. I wonder if there is any correlation between smell and the sole coming apart? Perhaps the smelly glue is the better/worse glue?

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:49 am

Mine smelled of glue when I first got them, but with a little wear it dissipated. I do know a couple of people whose boots haven't quit smelling. Odd how that works.

They now smell of leather and dye.

Randy

JC1972 · Post by **JC1972** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:09 am

the smell goes away eventually, its not that bad.

Indyzane · Post by **Indyzane** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:25 am

I purchased mine October of last year. They are from the first batch. I haven't had any issues with mine the smell is gone, glue is fine too. Thanks Todd for such a wonderful product.

Arkansas Smith · Post by **Arkansas Smith** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:48 am

Just got a pair in the new sizing. I wear a 12, ordered a 12, and they are perfect.

Todd, you rock and probably don't get enough credit for helping gearheads out. These are awesome and inexpensive. Sorry if we complain too much.

Now here's what I would change....

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:56 am

You guys spend a lot of time going around sniffing shoes, do ya?

suburbancomics · Post by **suburbancomics** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:17 pm

Just got my shoes yesterday! I didn't notice any kind of foul smell. The only smell I could detect was that of the leather. I really like the shoes and have to say that Todd has done a great job with these. They are extremely comfortable and they look fantastic! And has anyone else noticed the blazing speed to which Todd ships his products out? It is almost unbelievable how quick these shoes (and other products I have bought from Todd) showed up at my doorstep. Anyway I would like to post some pics of my shoes when I get a chance but thought that I would at least chime in on the discussion now that I own a pair of my own.