Gussets Confirmed

junior · Post by **junior** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:37 pm

Zohar grabbed a good shot of the gussets this morning from the new Raiders DVD.

This particular jacket, one of the 42 made by Peter for the films, seems to have had the one piece design as opposed to the two piece 'Jagger Lips' gusset included on Terry Leonard's stunt jacket and seen by a gearhead in SoCal that is now but a ghost here at Indygear.

click here to view: http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5175

junior

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:02 pm

Check my post at the bottom.

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:51 pm

Better yet. Here is Zohar's picture from the "Well of Souls". Just to be clear, there are 2 sections to that gusset, not one.

The ghost of _ lives!

-Sergei

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:13 pm

Yep, he'd be proud. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

Lee Keppler · Post by **Lee Keppler** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:28 pm

I'd like a McJagger and a large soda please. "Sure man! Fries with that?"

Sztybel · Post by **Sztybel** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:25 am

I'm beginning to think Lee is the king of bad puns. ha ha

Lee Keppler · Post by **Lee Keppler** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:49 am

Why, thank you! I'm known as Atilla.

JohnNdy · Post by **JohnNdy** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:14 pm

Having looked at both the Well of Souls pic and the Truck Chase pic...it seems that there might be jackets in the film with both the one piece and the two-piece construction. The gusset pic when he is on the truck looks just like my one piece gusset, and given the design of the FS gusset I believe that had that jacket had a two-piece construction, it would have been clearly evident in that shot. The well of souls shot is a little ambiguous in my eyes, and I feel it could support either theory. Are there no more scenes in the film featuring his gussets!?

-John

Mattdeckard · Post by **Mattdeckard** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:36 pm

those truck shots are too blurry to tell. It could be a 2 piece, or it could be a weathered fold point...

But either way their is a line, and the pics show nothing revealing to me.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:11 pm

There is one more shot. In the flying wing sequence as the German mechanic punches Indy for the last time (right before he’s hit by the propeller), Indy falls back and you can see the gusset as he falls in the bottom right-hand corner of the frame. Cheers

Lee Keppler · Post by **Lee Keppler** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:19 pm

Of course, if you don't want to see the elephant in your living room.....

MK · Post by MK » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:10 pm

20 Piece Gusset Revealed!!!!

There are so many pieces to this special gusset that the seams are very difficult to see, but with spaceage, new fangled, computer-assisted, photographic equipment to enhance this picture, it is obvious it is composed of no less than twenty pieces.

You read it here first folks.

We can safely close the door on this story.

Mattdeckard · Post by **Mattdeckard** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:41 pm

I thought you guys were refering to the pleats on the back. not the armpit.

Armpit pleats look to be on and off depending on the jacket.

I know that mine (wested) does not have them.

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:36 pm

Mattdeckard wrote:
I know that mine (wested) does not have them.

And that is the reason for the debate!

)

-S

junior · Post by **junior** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:55 am

There he is!!!!

Quick - throw the net! Throw the net!

Glad to see you poke your head over the fence _.

See you in 2004...

junior

Modern Jones · Post by **Modern Jones** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:31 am

Grab an old 8mm camera!!! Let's film like bigfoot and see who can reveal if this is a hoax or not!

I have first dibs on the Enquirer's or Star!!!

Eric

P.S. Nice to see ya _

PETER · Post by **PETER** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:54 am

I can confirm that the gussets in the Indy films were all of two piece contruction, I can alsso confirm that some of the jackets had gussets and some did not which is why it confuses and causes controversy.
One must remmber that the jacket seen in the films was not one jacket but several. It was only partway through the first film that we were asked to provide extra jackets with gussets for the fight sceenes but as a film is shot out of sequence jackets with and without gussets keep reappearing.
All the stunt mens jackets had gussets whilst most of Harrison Fords did not. Without doubt when making the film the continuety dept never envisaged that 20+ years later they would be so well scrutinised. Especially H.F's arm pits
Hope that helps a little
Cheers
Peter

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:05 pm

I'm sure if they DID have the luxury of that type knowledge, the cost of post production to CATCH these little items in the edit would have been astronomical!

Thanks again, Peter! Regards. Michaelson

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:07 pm

Without doubt when making the film the continuety dept never envisaged that 20+ years later they would be so well scrutinised. Especially H.F's arm pits

We are an odd bunch when you look at us from a certain perspective, aren't we

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:16 pm

rick5150 wrote:
Without doubt when making the film the continuety dept never envisaged that 20+ years later they would be so well scrutinised. Especially H.F's arm pits

We are an odd bunch when you look at us from a certain perspective, aren't we

Yes, it's time for Monty Python.

We are knights of the round table, ....."

"We're Knights of the Round Table,
We dance when ere we're able,
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
We dine well here in Camelot,
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.
We're Knights of the Round Table,
Our show are formidable,
But many times, we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable."

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:36 pm

SERGEI, WHY DO YOU DO THIS!!!! I'm going to have this song stuck in my head all day again!!!!

(let's not go there....'tis a silly place!)

(Man, I love that movie!) High regards. Michaelson

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:43 pm

Thanks for the laugh

To create an Indy-Monty Python link, I have a few of the box sets and there are some really great large brimmed, high-crowned fedoras in some of the skits. Due to the proximity to Herbert Johnson, I cannot say that it is out of the question. I believe that they are gray... I will try to get screen shots if possible...

Ahh the killer rabbit

"...what does he do ...nibble your bum?"

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:47 pm

"....look at the bones!"

...dang you Sergei!

Regards. Michaelson

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:00 pm

" he's got a mean streak a mile wide".....

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:05 pm

wik.

Regards. Michaelson

LNBright · Post by **LNBright** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:12 pm

Now I've got the lego-version of that scene running in front of my mind's eye.....

Little lego-guy skeleton clapping, substituting the parrot in for the chicken that gets kicked across the room.....

"No, let's not go there, it is a silly place."

-L

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:34 pm

Just in case somebody questions the connection of Monty Python and Indiana Jones:

http://www.sonypictures.com/cthe/montypython/

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:54 pm

In my opinion the gusset is in the flying wing jacket. The picture that MK posted is from the wrong angle. The gusset starts right at the seam that runs along the bottom of the sleeve and runs towards the back of the jacket. You can't see the seam in the picture. If you can't see the seam, you can't see the gusset. So far all the gusset shots are seen from the back of the jacket, not the front. I did post the exact place above where you can see the gusset in the flying wing sequence and unfortunately nobody's posted a pic of it yet. Cheers

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:03 pm

Aw, heck, _, we just thought you were nuts, Period. Gussets had nothing to do with it.

(grins) As always, GREAT to 'see' you around! High regards. Michaelson

zohar · Post by **zohar** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:01 pm

Here you go Rundquist. Brightness has been jacked up here.