TN Raiders in dark goat. Unbeatable.

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:09 pm

Hi everyone,
Although I am really fond of this place, I never post in forums. Let’s say that I am shy. But this time I am going to break my rules, because Tony deserves it.
I liked TN Raiders since the first time I saw the pictures that many of you have posted here. Two months ago, I read Han Jones thread showing his new TN Raiders in Goat. I thought that it was a great thing to know that the jacket was also available in that skin. Yet, and even though I liked it so much, I still was doubting about choosing goatskin or shrunken lamb. I truly loved the texture and draping of the shrunken lamb but, on the other hand, I wanted an extremely tough jacket. Tony told me what he thought, but he also recommended me to ask other owners for advise. He put me in contact with Han Jones and Indiana G, and both were of great help (by the way, once more thanks a lot, guys). I finally decided to go for the goat but with one condition: I wanted a much darker brown colour. ‘Sure, no problem’, Tony told me, and my order was placed.
Last Wednesday the jacket arrived and, what can I say? I am amazed by its quality. Let me tell you that this is truly a tough jacket, very strong and thick, and the surface is grainy and has lots of character. When I touch it is stiff and you could tell that there is nothing that could damage it. But, on the other hand, when I wear it, it drapes wonderfully. OK, I am not going to fool anyone: it is not lambskin, of course. But I can assure you that it has almost the same draping... And that's what amazes me most.
Tony has made it again: this is top quality.
Here are some pictures. I hope that you like them:

http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... t=Back.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... =Front.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... Front1.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... ent=Me.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... nt=Me2.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... nt=Me3.jpg

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:11 pm

Very VERY nice!!

HIGH regard! Michaelson

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:15 pm

Very nice. What size is it?

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:17 pm

Did you go with Indy G's larger collar or is that the standard ?......Great looking jacket......

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:25 pm

Thanks a lot guys!

Size 38 (I am not a tall guy: 5,8)
No special requests apart from the colour and the pocket snaps: I wanted them just a little bit higher.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:37 pm

This is the greatest TN I have seen.
The color is great, it seems a little too thick but it's fine.
It's long too, how did you do it?

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:39 pm

Beautiful jacket. Just a great look and put me down as well for loving that color.

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:47 pm

Thank you Platon and Crismans.
I just meassured my wested and sent Tony the information with some pictures.

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:07 pm

That's the one! Did you steal that from the Lucas Ranch? That looks just perfect. To me it looks like Raven Bar/South American Temple opening scenes.

All hail thee mighty jacket!

Congrats!!!

Post by **Holt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:10 pm

perfect my friend.just perfect!

bests
Holt

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:14 pm

What does it measure in the front and back? Is it longer than the standard 23"?

and the snaps? You wanted them higher?

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:23 pm

Wowww, that's a beautiful one, it looks almost like a shrunken lamb when I first look at the pictures
It is like a shrunken goat....

Congratulations!

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:31 pm

No doubt about it. It's awesome.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:36 pm

All the photos showing you wearing it are amazing.
So is the amalgamation of wested and TN the answer?

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:59 pm

perfect my friend.just perfect!

Thank you so much holt. Coming from you that's something that has to be taken seriously!

That's the one! Did you steal that from the Lucas Ranch?

Well, to tell you the truth I was having lunch the other day in the Lucas Ranch and I told the guy:
‘Hey George, where is the bathroom?’ And he gave me a lot of indications and draw me a map because, you know, that house is quite a big place. Then I went and I… well, ejem, I got lost for a while (he,he)

What does it measure in the front and back? Is it longer than the standard 23"?

and the snaps? You wanted them higher?
What does it measure in the front and back? Is it longer than the standard 23"?

and the snaps? You wanted them higher?

Back height: 23.5"
Storm flap: 22"
Yes, I wanted the snaps just a little bit higher from what I saw in other TN Raiders. In any case, it is almost unnoticeable.

All the photos showing you wearing it are amazing.
So is the amalgamation of wested and TN the answer?

Wested, Nowak... and me

Platon, thanks a lot. As I told Holt, coming from you that's something that has to be taken seriously. Apart from that I honestly think that it is all thanks to Tony's craftmanship!
I'm really happy to see you all liking so much this jacket. Thank you so much, guys.

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:01 pm

Hey Neutronbomb. Yes, it does fall of the shoulders. In fact, everything that I had read about the 'strange' fit of the Raiders jacket does happen in this one too, and it makes it even cooler. But, seriously, this hide is superb. Shrunken lamb is the real deal (that's for sure), but, man, this goat is such a great alternative...

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:09 pm

It would be interesting to know what the back and front length would have been had Tony just sized the pattern he had to your body, height etc.

Absolutely... And in fact it would have been great to meet the man and talk with him. But I live in Spain, so...

Bullitt · Post by **Bullitt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:13 pm

First thing I noticed in your pics was the length of the collar, like Holt's. Looks and fits perfect in my eyes and durable to boot.

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:38 pm

Nope. It is the standard collar Tony offers (as far as I know).

By the way. I am answering those who have anything in particular to ask about the jacket, but SpeedRcrX, Rundquist and Bullitt, thanks a lot for your comments too!

Post by **Holt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:49 pm

what size is it? and whats the chest measurements? pit to pit across chest?

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:03 pm

Jacket size is 38 (or is it the collar size you are asking for? I am not sure how to measure it)
Chest measurement: 19.7" pit to pit.
Tony decided to make the jacket a little bit snugger than my Riders Wested (an standard 38 that is 20.5" pit to pit)

Tibor · Post by **Tibor** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:33 pm

That is just beautiful. I love the color. The last pic of you wearing it is so Raven Bar to me. In fact there's a lot of Harrison Ford in you - if you were in full gear, it would be like a time warp back to the 80's in that jacket. You may have captured Raider's Indy (both you and the jacket) more than anyone else I've seen on the forum.

Exceptional jacket and you wear it well!

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:18 pm

PLATON wrote:All the photos showing you wearing it are amazing.
So is the amalgamation of wested and TN the answer?

Other than measurements for his personal size I don't think there is anything of Wested in it.

Post by **Holt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:22 pm

thanx, could you please faltten those cuffs out and measure them carefully, no stretching..

I seem to get different cuff widths from people who has the TN raiders when they pm me the cuff size.

it should be 5.5''

please confirm.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:24 pm

Raskolnikov wrote:.......

Back height: 23.5"
Storm flap: 22"
Yes, I wanted the snaps just a little bit higher from what I saw in other TN Raiders. In any case, it is almost unnoticeable.

.........

Perfect.

The snaps in the photos don't really appear higher. You probably don't want them too high anyway or you might get curling of the tip of the flap

Now wear it in. Keep that 'wrinkle' effect going

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:42 pm

rask, i'm so happy that it worked out for you.......in SPADES!!! that jacket is gorgeous. man, goat is unbeatable for strength ain't it??? i'd love to get one myself......so......can i have it???

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:49 pm

PLATON wrote:This is the greatest TN I have seen.
The color is great, it seems a little too thick but it's fine.
It's long too, how did you do it?

Back height: 23.5"
Storm flap: 22"

the hands can't hit what the eyes can't see..........float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

i don't know exactly how that ties in but it does, doesn't it?????.....if not, it just sounds cool.....ali rules!!!!

whipcracker · Post by **whipcracker** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:11 pm

I have it! When we call up Tony we just tell him we a jacket with Raskolnikov specs., no?

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:21 pm

Wow, that is one nice jacket! It is perfect Raiders. Everything! That colour, and hide is amazing! Top notch job! I really wish I could afford one of these jackets

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:25 pm

whipcracker wrote:I have it! When we call up Tony we just tell him we a jacket with Raskolnikov specs., no?

since it's to the TN Raiders jacket specs that order would get you a jacket in goat in Raskolnikov's size. If you are the same size it might work for you

Post by **Holt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:41 pm

yeah, that makes me wonder too.....

cuz I havent seen any other Nowaks looking like that....

that collar looks exactly like mine when I see it from the side......

funny

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:56 pm

The collar looks right to me for a TN.

In this side photo, http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... nt=Me2.jpg he seems to be leaning forward and has the jacket pulled forward more onto his shoulders. This seems to make the collar protrude more to the front.

Remember Mr Holt I gave you the measurement of my collar, and you indicated it was actually slightly larger than your collar. My collar is standard TN size.

Post by **Holt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:59 pm

I dont remember, maby I said somehting wrong or got confused.....

whats the collar length on your 40 is it?

mine is a 44 so how could yours be longer if my collar is allready longer then a 44?

sorry man if Im wrong but I dont remember.....

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:31 am

Fits wonderfully!

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:33 am

I wear a 44" Wested and when I was discussing my specs with Tony, I believe he mentioned his Indy1 standard collar base to be 19 inches, which is longer than the already relatively long 18" on my existing jacket. Seems a long collar...

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:17 am

Indiana Holt wrote:I dont remember, maby I said somehting wrong or got confused.....

whats the collar length on your 40 is it?

mine is a 44 so how could yours be longer if my collar is allready longer then a 44?

sorry man if Im wrong but I dont remember.....

Yes Mr Holt, Mr Yojimbo is correct. My collar at it's base is 19"

This is no doubt why you see a big collar in the movie

I think where my collar was larger than yours was in width, I can't remember how long your collar is.

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:26 am

thanx, could you please faltten those cuffs out and measure them carefully, no stretching..

I seem to get different cuff widths from people who has the TN raiders when they pm me the cuff size.

it should be 5.5''

please confirm.

Almost. It's 5.4"

rask, i'm so happy that it worked out for you.......in SPADES!!!

Thanks a lot. And thanks for your good advises about the hide.

i'd love to get one myself......so......can i have it???

Sure, for a month or so (I mean, my Wested, je, je)

float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

I couldn't have said it better.

I'm going to have to print out these pictures of you wearing your jacket to show Tony when he makes mine. You absolutely scored!

My pleasure, Neutronbomb.

Tibor and everybody, thanks a lot for your comments! I didn't imagine that you all guys were going to like so much this jacket. I am overwhelmed. Anyways, this is great news for Tony, and he deserves them for sure!

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:18 am

Ah... and the snaps are where they 're supposed to be IMHO (I always thought TN put them lower)

You have the best looking "Hawaii" jacket on the planet.

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:00 am

In fact the snaps of the Hawaii jacket are even higher, but as RCSignals has pointed out, maybe that would make curl the tip of the flap. For stetic reasons I like it better the way it is in my jacket, a little bit higher but not too much.
I appreciate that you think is a 'Hawaii jacket', because IMHO that's one of the coolest moments in the film. Thanks a lot again.

Post by **Holt** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:43 am

RCSignals wrote:
Indiana Holt wrote:I dont remember, maby I said somehting wrong or got confused.....

whats the collar length on your 40 is it?

mine is a 44 so how could yours be longer if my collar is allready longer then a 44?

sorry man if Im wrong but I dont remember.....
Yes Mr Holt, Mr Yojimbo is correct. My collar at it's base is 19"

This is no doubt why you see a big collar in the movie

I think where my collar was larger than yours was in width, I can't remember how long your collar is.

hmm...

yes it does ring a bell...

my collarbase/stand is longer then yours...

I guess maby I ment a normal 80's cut from wested which is shorter in the base...

Idont know, and dont care anymore... Im so sick of this whole SA thing

but your collarlapels are much bigger then my laplels... your colarstand is shorter but by just a tad..

mrkaboom · Post by **mrkaboom** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:12 am

how much did you pay for it?

jacksdad · Post by **jacksdad** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:24 am

great lookin jacket enjoy

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:40 am

Thanks jacksdad.

mrkaboom wrote:how much did you pay for it?

The standard TN Riders price for hides that are not shrunken lamb: 750$

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:50 am

Rask, any chance of posting some more detail, close up pics of details, grain of the goat in natural light ??....enjoy this great jacket .....you're going to like it even more as it breaks in and molds to you.....

Raskolnikov · Post by **Raskolnikov** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:59 pm

Here they are, Hatch:

http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... Collar.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... Pleats.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... Pocket.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... Straps.jpg
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss28 ... traps1.jpg

The leather is shiny, but not as much as what it seems to be in the pictures. The color is, more or less, the same one.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:47 pm

Man, best looking grain, texture I've seen on a fresh out of the box goat.,right there with the 30 yr old hides.....enjoy it becoming a part of you......

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:43 pm

Raskolnikov,

Congrats! Now THAT is one pretty jacket!!

This is the first example of a TN that makes me want to get one, especially considering it's the lesser of the two pricetags. You've definitely got yourself a keeper! Wear that beauty with pride.

Kind regards,
Craig

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:15 pm

Does the collar on the TN jackets go to the midway point on the stormflap? I thought that it did, but in this last batch of pics it looks as if it does not...still a terrific looking jacket, though. IT makes me want to order one right away, even if I don't have enough cash yet!!

~Jace

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:28 pm

Tyrloch wrote:Does the collar on the TN jackets go to the midway point on the stormflap? I thought that it did, but in this last batch of pics it looks as if it does not...........

~Jace

Yes it does, they all do. In the pictures of this jacket too. Take another look

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:38 pm

I actually took a second look before I posted, and then again now after you told me to. It still looks as if the collar hits the stormflap right at the zipper, but if you say it does, then I believe you -- I thought that it had on all the TN's until it looked as if it didn't to me in that pic. Not a big deal anyway, as I could always specify that in my (potential) order.

~Jace